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Why do people not respect the rules?

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  • P PJ Arends

    At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.

    Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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    Kirk 10389821
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    And what are the rules for those that slip through for the rest of us? For example, in our company, we have a HUGE rule. When it comes toe email communications, if a message can be interpreted in multiple ways, EVERYONE MUST interpret it in the MOST POSITIVE way! The reason is simple... We cannot correct what was written or sent. we may not know the ultimate intent of the email, and we MANY TIMES have misinterpreted something and got bent out of shape over it. So, AFAIAC, I would suggest we have a rule that says if someone posts something you don't like, that you do not respond to it, and that you are welcome to notify a moderator to deal with it. They will slip through. I accidentally asked a question about an article I wrote. I was not trying to create a Click Bait conversation, I was curious. And I was TOLD not to do this, and I wont do it again. You get used to talking to people in this forum as friends. And sometimes, one conversation you might have with your other friends makes it into the forum. It is the death knell of the forums if that is all we get, and we don't moderate. But PLEASE do not suggest we ban words like Infidel, etc. The answer to free speech you don't like is more speech. Or a moderator email with a reminder of the appropriate place, and a delete. In general, it happens, just like emails that sound worse than they were intended to be. It is how we RESPOND to them that determines the type of community that we are!

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    • P PJ Arends

      At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.

      Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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      Ralph Little
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      What I can never understand is why people use "children" as the reason to avoid talk of sex, as though pre-pubescent children would really care either way. Personally, I think using kids to justify avoiding taboo subjects is just a proxy of adults' personal embarrassment.

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      • G Garth J Lancaster

        yes, I wondered if it was just me being sensitive and thought "I'll bite my tongue" - but the post beginning with 'Hello Infidels' is just wrong, anywhere, in my books - it doesnt matter that the poster probably has used that to mean 'unbeliever of Pastafarian', there's just so many other ways it can be mis-interpreted

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        bkebamc
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        You mean that any longer I can't offer "Let's see what the old noodle can make of this"?

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        • W W Balboos GHB

          You certainly get my up vote. As thought anyone gives a d----

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          Mark_Wallace
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          I'm more than aware that people only voted for that posting because of the line at the bottom.

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          • P PJ Arends

            At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.

            Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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            bkebamc
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            The title of the OP was abstract. While I don't lurk here enough to be able to suggest why "those specific people" don't follow the rules, in general rules create a context that allows those possessing a resource to devote themselves to its enjoyment, rather than to its defense. In general "street smart" people are experts at knowing how far the rules can be ignored before the system curbs their behavior. In the interim, they can have a lot of fun (and amass a fair amount of wealth) indulging their egos at our expense. So: thanks for your vigilance!

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              Its not about winning Mark, its about putting you right after you turned a discussion into an argument by acting like a jerk, as you usually do. Take your own advice.

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Putting me right? All I did was mention frappe, and you replied with this: "Café Frappe sounds American and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter" So I (having drunk the damned things all over Europe) told you what a frappe is, and what a cafe frappe is, after which you googled (very badly, getting very incorrect results that claimed that frappe is an American invention) and started up with the "Oh, I've lived in France for years, so I know better than you what a frappe is!" bollocks. If you can't talk to people without googling, try not talking at all -- and also try saying "Oh, I never knew that" instead of googling in an effort to get one up on the person you're talking to. If you can't behave, why don't you just stay in the Soapbox and pound on about GW?

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                Mark_Wallace
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                For God's sake try harder, next time!

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                • P PJ Arends

                  At top of the lounge is a sticky post that states some rules for posting in the lounge. In the last little while it seems that the rules have gone out the window. There have been discussions about sex and religion and blatant personal attacks. The worse is that this comes from long time members who should know better. The powers that be have provided a forum for discussing sex and religion and the personal attacks are not suppose to be here at all.

                  Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                  WynterDragon
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                  I always thought it was strange when someone says to "respect" the rules. You can "ignore" the rules, "break" the rules, and "follow" the rules. But respecting them seems a bit like worshiping them which is against the rules. Barbossa: First, your return to shore was not part of our negotiations nor our agreement so I must do nothing. And secondly, you must be a pirate for the pirate's code to apply and you're not. And thirdly, the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules. Welcome aboard the Black Pearl, Miss Turner.

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                  • G Garth J Lancaster

                    yes, I wondered if it was just me being sensitive and thought "I'll bite my tongue" - but the post beginning with 'Hello Infidels' is just wrong, anywhere, in my books - it doesnt matter that the poster probably has used that to mean 'unbeliever of Pastafarian', there's just so many other ways it can be mis-interpreted

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                    Ancient Zygote
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                    Are you disrespecting The Profit? "Jamie" Dimon

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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Putting me right? All I did was mention frappe, and you replied with this: "Café Frappe sounds American and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter" So I (having drunk the damned things all over Europe) told you what a frappe is, and what a cafe frappe is, after which you googled (very badly, getting very incorrect results that claimed that frappe is an American invention) and started up with the "Oh, I've lived in France for years, so I know better than you what a frappe is!" bollocks. If you can't talk to people without googling, try not talking at all -- and also try saying "Oh, I never knew that" instead of googling in an effort to get one up on the person you're talking to. If you can't behave, why don't you just stay in the Soapbox and pound on about GW?

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Munchies_Matt
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                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      Café Frappe sounds American

                      Yes, WITHOUT THE ACCENT! Café frappé (WITH THE ACCENT) is French.

                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter"

                      Talking about the 'frappe machine' you said YOU had. frappe machine - Google Search[^] Which I HAVENT seen. And no, you didn't tell me what a Café Frappé is, you linked to a Greek imitation created in the 50s, an imitation of the original French (and most probably Italian) drink which predates the Greek version by at least a century. And no, you didn't tell me what a Caffé frappé is because I have drunk them often enough since I live in the South of France. You really need to learn to understand what people write and not what you think they, or want to, write. Most likely you do this in order to create an argument just as you have done here. Take you own advice eh, and do yourself a favour.

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                        Café Frappe sounds American

                        Yes, WITHOUT THE ACCENT! Café frappé (WITH THE ACCENT) is French.

                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                        and I have never seen these in the UK or France (or Luxembourg or Belgium for that matter"

                        Talking about the 'frappe machine' you said YOU had. frappe machine - Google Search[^] Which I HAVENT seen. And no, you didn't tell me what a Café Frappé is, you linked to a Greek imitation created in the 50s, an imitation of the original French (and most probably Italian) drink which predates the Greek version by at least a century. And no, you didn't tell me what a Caffé frappé is because I have drunk them often enough since I live in the South of France. You really need to learn to understand what people write and not what you think they, or want to, write. Most likely you do this in order to create an argument just as you have done here. Take you own advice eh, and do yourself a favour.

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        Jeeze. Once a troll, always a troll, I suppose.

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          Jeeze. Once a troll, always a troll, I suppose.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          A troll is someone who looks for arguments and confrontation. That will be you then Mark.

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                          • M Munchies_Matt

                            A troll is someone who looks for arguments and confrontation. That will be you then Mark.

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            A troll is someone who keeps on and on and on trying to prove that they're right, even thought they've proven themselves wrong. Me, I just don't run away from a fight. Until it gets too boring to bother with, of course. Can't you google some new "evidence" to "prove" that you knew what frappes are?

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            • A Ancient Zygote

                              Are you disrespecting The Profit? "Jamie" Dimon

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                              Charles Programmer
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                              I certainly hope so, no one could/would be more deserving.

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                              • M Mark_Wallace

                                A troll is someone who keeps on and on and on trying to prove that they're right, even thought they've proven themselves wrong. Me, I just don't run away from a fight. Until it gets too boring to bother with, of course. Can't you google some new "evidence" to "prove" that you knew what frappes are?

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                Munchies_Matt
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                                Je sais bien 'frappé', j'en ai bu souvent. Mais, toi t'es un troll. C'est evident.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  The same reason that people steal and murder.

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                                  Charles Programmer
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                                  Huh. Well, I figured it was always because the rules were made to give them an unfair advantage, or that they realized that was the case to give someone else the advantage. That's how it seems to work here in USA for the corporate types. But then again, I've not been a fan of fascism. Guess I may need to warm up to it, both political parties seem to be moving away from democracy and towards fascism. Its either that or figure out how to escape the country and get somewhere safe. And by safe I mean where they don't tell you to give up your constitutional rights to gain safety that is merely a figment of their imagination.

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