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C# WCF Dead or alive?

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  • G Gabriel Sas

    i see a lot of blog posts around the internet that says WCF is Dead, any other thoughts?

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    Kirk Wood
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    I see a lot of stupid statements on the Internet. While it is certainly true that WCF has fallen out of the shiny favor. But that is far from dead. Many of those probably believe that soon everything on the internet will be done through a restful http interface.

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    • E Eytukan

      :laugh: You are the man. That has the potential to send posts to the Abyss! You should have really gone for a clear YATCITA!

      Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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      MikeTheFid
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      YATCITA?

      Cheers, Mike Fidler "I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright "I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright "I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.

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        YATCITA?

        Cheers, Mike Fidler "I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright "I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright "I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.

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        Eytukan
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        Yet Another Thread Careening Into The Abyss. Especially when it contains a bit of objectionalble materials :)

        Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          As far as I know SignalR is something completely different. SignalR supports two way HTTP(S) requests using web sockets. WCF supports all sorts of communication (through configuration), like HTTP(S), pipes, SOAP, and can, in theory, be used on any host (IIS/WAS, Windows Service, do we have any other flavors?). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          Daniel R Przybylski
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          Absolutely, much less named pipes and many different forms of authentication. WCF is a bit like XML or Microsoft Office. It can do sooooo much more than most people realize or what most people use it for. When you need it, it's really nice, but often difficult to learn and master. I've been hearing people calling RoR and jQuery dead, but I still find myself using jQuery once in a while.

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          • D dandy72

            Kevin Marois wrote:

            Why do hot dogs come in packs of 10, but hot dog buns come in packs of 8??

            Buy 8 packs of hot dogs, 10 packs of buns, and invite 80 79 friends for a BBQ. No leftovers.

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            tpp nud net
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            I think we could get by with 4 packs of hot dogs and 5 packs of buns. 38 friends. I will have two please.

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            • G Gabriel Sas

              i see a lot of blog posts around the internet that says WCF is Dead, any other thoughts?

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              rhyous
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              Alive and growing. We are just switching to it for our JSON communication and love it. The configuration is pretty easy now. Used to be harder but now it is simpler. It also has cool AOP features, such as that ability to manipulate all packets before the WCF service even sees it with a message inspector. SignalR might be simpler at first glance, but does it have such AOP features? Can I authenticate all web services in one piece of code without adding a single line of code in each of my services? The feature set of WCF is huge and pretty much blows away anything else on the market.

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              • G Gabriel Sas

                i see a lot of blog posts around the internet that says WCF is Dead, any other thoughts?

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                Lost User
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                It started with the demise of XML.

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                • R rhyous

                  Alive and growing. We are just switching to it for our JSON communication and love it. The configuration is pretty easy now. Used to be harder but now it is simpler. It also has cool AOP features, such as that ability to manipulate all packets before the WCF service even sees it with a message inspector. SignalR might be simpler at first glance, but does it have such AOP features? Can I authenticate all web services in one piece of code without adding a single line of code in each of my services? The feature set of WCF is huge and pretty much blows away anything else on the market.

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                  Gabriel Sas
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                  Can you give me some tutorial links please?

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                    Alive and growing. We are just switching to it for our JSON communication and love it. The configuration is pretty easy now. Used to be harder but now it is simpler. It also has cool AOP features, such as that ability to manipulate all packets before the WCF service even sees it with a message inspector. SignalR might be simpler at first glance, but does it have such AOP features? Can I authenticate all web services in one piece of code without adding a single line of code in each of my services? The feature set of WCF is huge and pretty much blows away anything else on the market.

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                    pkfox
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                    I agree - but like everything *the devil is in the detail*

                    We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                    • G Gabriel Sas

                      i see a lot of blog posts around the internet that says WCF is Dead, any other thoughts?

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                      Shopko
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                      Personally I prefer message queues these days. Several people have mentioned SignalR, and the hub could be considered a broker of sorts I guess. I've recently used both RabbitMQ (via the EasyNetQ library) and NetMQ to build microservices. For [potentially] load balanced services over a network, I prefer Rabbit. For single-process service containers (sounds strange at first, but we use in-process microservices at work to make individual components completely self-contained, allowing parallel development by many teams) I like using NetMQ with inproc sockets. NetMQ is also capable of TCP connections but IMHO the monitoring tools are not as good as the ones available for Rabbit. So, to answer the original question - is WCF dead? I don't think so. I think it's similar to WPF; not dead, but nobody is really working on new features or improvements either.

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                        any other thoughts?

                        Why do hot dogs come in packs of 10, but hot dog buns come in packs of 8??

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                        Leng Vang
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                        Until they meet, they aren't talking to each other.

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                        • K Kevin Marois

                          Now why didn't I think I that? oh ya, I don't have 79 friends.

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                          obermd
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                          If you have 19 friends you could do this. Two hot dogs per person. The LCM of 8 and 10 is 40, not 80.

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                          • K Kevin Marois

                            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                            any other thoughts?

                            Why do hot dogs come in packs of 10, but hot dog buns come in packs of 8??

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                            PMBottas
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                            Oscar Meyer Angus Selects are 8/package...

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                            • E Eytukan

                              Yet Another Thread Careening Into The Abyss. Especially when it contains a bit of objectionalble materials :)

                              Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                              MikeTheFid
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                              :thumbsup:

                              Cheers, Mike Fidler "I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright "I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright "I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.

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                              • G Gabriel Sas

                                Can you give me some tutorial links please?

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                                rhyous
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                                Well, yes. I do happen to blog. Here is a 6 part series (using a Basic Authentication Token Service) that shows how to do JSON enabled web services. By part 3 you get the message inspector. Then in Part 6 you actually get an html/javascript client. [Authentication Token Service for WCF Services (Part 1)](http://www.rhyous.com/2015/02/05/basic-token-service-for-wcf-services-part-1)

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