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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

    Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    Lost User
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    I suggest DDR4 RAM (runs at 2.130 GHz), at least 32 GB

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      The one I have now is about five years old. It worked fine until, well, last weekend. Unfortunately, doubling the RAM is relatively expensive. I found a good PC just like the one I had in mind, but double RAM, something about CPU turbo boost, blu-ray burner (instead of DVD, but the last time I burned a CD must've been in high school). It costs €200,- more, but I'd only do it for the RAM. I could buy an extra RAM card, but even that is an extra €70 to €80.

      Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      Marc Clifton
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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      I could buy an extra RAM card, but even that is an extra €70 to €80.

      I think that's well worth it. I put 16GB on my laptop, which I now use as my main dev box, it's soooo quiet, and hey, the built-in battery backup has been really helpful when the vacuum cleaner blew the circuit breaker, hahaha. The 16GB gives me room to do a ton of things, including running an Ubuntu VM with 8GB dedicated to it. Marc

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        Lost User
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        Under 700 euro's (though my spec is two or three years old) Intel Core i3-32170 @1.80GHz (4 cores) 16 Gb RAM 128 Gb SSD Custom built with Win7 preinstalled as I know nothing about hardware either. Uses 65 Watt when turned on - compare that to your desktop. No moving parts either, no fan, no harddisk - just silence and a Windows that boots in 4 seconds. Dragon Computers[^]

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          Ron Anders
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          That's seems like a good box. better than mine.

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            I recommend the Gigabyte Brix Pro[^].  I absolutely love mine, which I bought a year ago.  The box measures 4" x 4" x 2.5". i7 4th gen, 3.2GHz, 16G RAM, 500GB Samsung fast-write SSD, HDMI and mini display port video at 4K each.  I use mine for development and it screams (I run Win 7 Enterprise).  Power-on to Windows login prompt takes about 5 seconds.  If you're a gamer, consider buying the gaming version. Performance stats[^] /ravi

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

              Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              BillWoodruff
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              Based on my assumptions (i.e., shaky hypotheses) about what your modal use of the computer might be: I think you'll need at least 16gb. of ram. cheers, Bill

              «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

                Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                Brisingr Aerowing
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                I have an Asus ROG Gaming laptop with 24 GB RAM, and it can run pretty much anything. An SSD really helps as well. I can run two instances of VS 2015, Firefox with 20+ tabs, An instance of Blender, AND a local Jenkins instance I set up to do builds and perform analysis. All at once. With no lag or crashing. (This was from before the NVidia testing in production issue that forced me to refresh the system. I haven't installed Blender or Jenkins again, yet. The Jenkins setup was a bit haphazard to say the least.)

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                • L Lost User

                  Five years? :~ I'd double or quadruple the RAM.

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                  Shelby Robertson
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                  Mike Mullikin wrote:

                  I'd double or quadruple the RAM.

                  I second this. 16GB is the absolute minimum I would put in a new machine, and if you could leave room to expand to 32 in the future it would be a good idea.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

                    Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    DaveX86
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                    If you don't plan on over-clocking it, you could get the one with the locked core that comes with a stock CPU cooler, put the extra money towards more ram (I'd get at least 12 gigs).

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

                      Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      Munchies_Matt
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                      i7s start at about £450 in the UK, perhaps look there (if you dont mind a UK keyboard).

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

                        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        Maximilien
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                        What is the intended use of the computer ? work, play, ? an i7 is not really useful for regular work (IMO), get a top i5 instead; get 16meg of ram.

                        I'd rather be phishing!

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

                          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          Sorry to tell you but with this build you can't play the newest games (on high details)

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            The one I have now is about five years old. It worked fine until, well, last weekend. Unfortunately, doubling the RAM is relatively expensive. I found a good PC just like the one I had in mind, but double RAM, something about CPU turbo boost, blu-ray burner (instead of DVD, but the last time I burned a CD must've been in high school). It costs €200,- more, but I'd only do it for the RAM. I could buy an extra RAM card, but even that is an extra €70 to €80.

                            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            xiecsuk
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                            I've just paid £40.00 for 8G of ram from a company in Birmingham.

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

                              Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              Joan M
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                              More RAM and better GPU... if you want to play games of course.

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                              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                So this weekend I put my desktop PC on the kitchen table and had grand plans of going back to PC gaming. Turned out my PC got a bit slow so I decided to do a clean install (Windows 7). Unfortunately it remained slow and, worse, kept hanging on updates and installs. It's pretty useless to me now and I've put enough time into getting it to work again. I'm now looking for a new PC and I figure it should last me at least five years. Unfortunately I know very little about hardware. I found the following: Intel® Core i7-6700 (3,4 GHz) (4 cores) 8GB RAM 240 GB SSD 2TB SATA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2.048 MB) And of course Windows 10 Home 64-Bit (OEM) :sigh: The only thing that's really bothering me is the price tag: €999,- :( I could go a little cheaper, but now that I'm going to spend money anyway... Would be a major bummer if I spent a lot of money and couldn't play the newest games.

                                Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                Lost User
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                                Try to get DDR4 ram. Runs twice the speed of the more common DDR3 ram. Of course the main board must be designed for DDR4.

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