VS. Net AE version - EBay
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I was looking at EBay last night and noticed quite a few VS.Net Academic Editions for sale. Some of the sellers listed the Microsoft policy requirements, but of course some didn't. Is there some limitation as to what the academic version contains and can do versus the non academic equivalent? Why do you think that there are so many AE versions for sale? One more question. I have VB.Net Standard and the WebMatrix Tool installed on XP. I noticed under the \Windows\Framework\ folder that there are command line execs for what appears to be CSharp, JSharp and some others. Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? What are your thoughts? Just curious. bwcater :suss:
bwcater wrote: Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? MS provides the assemblers/compilers for free. It's the IDE/dev environment that you're paying for. I guess it's their way of competing with Java. Jeremy Falcon
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I was looking at EBay last night and noticed quite a few VS.Net Academic Editions for sale. Some of the sellers listed the Microsoft policy requirements, but of course some didn't. Is there some limitation as to what the academic version contains and can do versus the non academic equivalent? Why do you think that there are so many AE versions for sale? One more question. I have VB.Net Standard and the WebMatrix Tool installed on XP. I noticed under the \Windows\Framework\ folder that there are command line execs for what appears to be CSharp, JSharp and some others. Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? What are your thoughts? Just curious. bwcater :suss:
bwcater wrote: Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? I don't know about J# as I have not used it, but right now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling" I have 2 copies of Visual Studio .NET (2002) one is Academic and one is Pro ( both free :-D [EDIT]100% Legal licenses[/EDIT]). The only differences, that I have seen, is Academic requires product activation (I don't know why Pro doesn't) and Academic has an extra CD that comes with student tools. The legal differnece between academic and pro is you can't distribute software compiled under academic. -BestSnowman
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bwcater wrote: Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? I don't know about J# as I have not used it, but right now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling" I have 2 copies of Visual Studio .NET (2002) one is Academic and one is Pro ( both free :-D [EDIT]100% Legal licenses[/EDIT]). The only differences, that I have seen, is Academic requires product activation (I don't know why Pro doesn't) and Academic has an extra CD that comes with student tools. The legal differnece between academic and pro is you can't distribute software compiled under academic. -BestSnowman
BestSnowman wrote: you can't distribute software compiled under academic. commercially that is. Free software is no problem, even if you bought it when your were still a student and now you aren't anymore. Cheers Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus! http://www.martin-haesemeyer.de
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bwcater wrote: Why do you think that there are so many AE versions for sale? Students are normally low on money. Students someday become non-students so they cannot use AE anymore. Students often use pirated software. So, they buy it, install it, and sell it. bwcater wrote: One more question. I have VB.Net Standard and the WebMatrix Tool installed on XP. I noticed under the \Windows\Framework\ folder that there are command line execs for what appears to be CSharp, JSharp and some others. Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? Yes. There is even a nice and free IDE for streamlining this, just like the WebMatrix, named SharpDevelop. I didn't try it yet, but it seems very good.
It's not the fall that kills you: it's the sudden stop - Down by Law, Jim Jamursch (1986)
Daniel Turini wrote: There is even a nice and free IDE for streamlining this, just like the WebMatrix, named SharpDevelop. I didn't try it yet, but it seems very good. Daniel, Thanks for the info. I am looking at SharpDevelop info right now. Thanks again!!!:) For those of you reading this and interested in the SharpDevelop tool... http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/ bwcater
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bwcater wrote: Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? I don't know about J# as I have not used it, but right now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling" I have 2 copies of Visual Studio .NET (2002) one is Academic and one is Pro ( both free :-D [EDIT]100% Legal licenses[/EDIT]). The only differences, that I have seen, is Academic requires product activation (I don't know why Pro doesn't) and Academic has an extra CD that comes with student tools. The legal differnece between academic and pro is you can't distribute software compiled under academic. -BestSnowman
BestSnowman wrote: now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling Looks like all I need now is a good C# Book. Any recommendations as to something that will get me started and be useful as a reference later? bwcater
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Daniel Turini wrote: There is even a nice and free IDE for streamlining this, just like the WebMatrix, named SharpDevelop. I didn't try it yet, but it seems very good. Daniel, Thanks for the info. I am looking at SharpDevelop info right now. Thanks again!!!:) For those of you reading this and interested in the SharpDevelop tool... http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/ bwcater
bwcater wrote: For those of you reading this and interested in the SharpDevelop tool... http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/[^]
It's not the fall that kills you: it's the sudden stop - Down by Law, Jim Jamursch (1986)
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BestSnowman wrote: now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling Looks like all I need now is a good C# Book. Any recommendations as to something that will get me started and be useful as a reference later? bwcater
Inside C# by Tom Archer, MSPress That's the only book you'll ever need. :-D
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bwcater wrote: Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? I don't know about J# as I have not used it, but right now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling" I have 2 copies of Visual Studio .NET (2002) one is Academic and one is Pro ( both free :-D [EDIT]100% Legal licenses[/EDIT]). The only differences, that I have seen, is Academic requires product activation (I don't know why Pro doesn't) and Academic has an extra CD that comes with student tools. The legal differnece between academic and pro is you can't distribute software compiled under academic. -BestSnowman
BestSnowman wrote: The only differences, that I have seen, is Academic requires product activation (I don't know why Pro doesn't) I would say this is because Pro is targetted at Volume Licensing (i.e. corporate) customers, who are less likely to want Product Activation to get in the way. So, the VS.NET Pro key is similar to the Volume Licensing Keys they get for Enterprise and Select agreement products (i.e. no product activation)
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bwcater wrote: Is it possible to write CSharp and JSharp code outside of the IDE and fully compile using these command line execs? I don't know about J# as I have not used it, but right now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling" I have 2 copies of Visual Studio .NET (2002) one is Academic and one is Pro ( both free :-D [EDIT]100% Legal licenses[/EDIT]). The only differences, that I have seen, is Academic requires product activation (I don't know why Pro doesn't) and Academic has an extra CD that comes with student tools. The legal differnece between academic and pro is you can't distribute software compiled under academic. -BestSnowman
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BestSnowman wrote: now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling Looks like all I need now is a good C# Book. Any recommendations as to something that will get me started and be useful as a reference later? bwcater
Looks like David already beat me to it. Inside C# is definitely the way to go. -BestSnowman
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BestSnowman wrote: now I am doing most of my C# work with the command line. All you need is the .NET SDK (or whatever they call it) and csc will do your C# command line "compiling Looks like all I need now is a good C# Book. Any recommendations as to something that will get me started and be useful as a reference later? bwcater
bwcater wrote: Looks like all I need now is a good C# Book. It's been said twice before, but Tom Archer's Inside C# (Second Edition) is the best :) James "It is self repeating, of unknown pattern" Data - Star Trek: The Next Generation