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  • L Lost User

    What Orwell failed to predict is that we would buy the cameras ourselves...then worry that no-one was watching.

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    Lost User
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    The weather associated with 1984 appeared like an elephant, or multiple elephants, the symbol of a demon commander, such as ... Both an elephant on land and a whale in water are giants and symbols of ... Cold fronts notwithstanding

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    • L Lost User

      The weather associated with 1984 appeared like an elephant, or multiple elephants, the symbol of a demon commander, such as ... Both an elephant on land and a whale in water are giants and symbols of ... Cold fronts notwithstanding

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      Nurse! Nurse! He's out of bed again!

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      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • L Lost User

        What Orwell failed to predict is that we would buy the cameras ourselves...then worry that no-one was watching.

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        BillWoodruff
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        It is good to find a pearl in the slops you throw out, here.

        «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Nurse! Nurse! He's out of bed again!

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          Lost User
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          Have you ever questioned anything ... Clouds seeded with metallic elements are sensitive to electromagnetism Why in the lightning map of the US is Denver, CO a hot-spot, at the same time being the airport having demonic artwork and secret underground buildings. WHY was the president in Denver when the last asteroid came close? WHY are the recurring themes in the clouds (recent storm for instance was an angel blowing breath over the central US. Here, on twitter[^]

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            Have you ever questioned anything ... Clouds seeded with metallic elements are sensitive to electromagnetism Why in the lightning map of the US is Denver, CO a hot-spot, at the same time being the airport having demonic artwork and secret underground buildings. WHY was the president in Denver when the last asteroid came close? WHY are the recurring themes in the clouds (recent storm for instance was an angel blowing breath over the central US. Here, on twitter[^]

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            WHY conspiracy theorists all have a lack of control over their lives? And tend to be poorly educated? Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories? - Scientific American[^] Here's Why People Believe In Conspiracy Theories[^]

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              WHY conspiracy theorists all have a lack of control over their lives? And tend to be poorly educated? Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories? - Scientific American[^] Here's Why People Believe In Conspiracy Theories[^]

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              To the monopolized mainstream media, anything that goes contrary is a "Conspiracy theory", and shaming tactics are employed. 600 years ago, this mechanism was called heresy and employed with same tactics. In discourse it is sufficient to be outraged and shout "conspiracy", no need to actually refute. If microsoft had a monopoly on all media, Java and apple would be called "conspiracy theories" too

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                WHY conspiracy theorists all have a lack of control over their lives? And tend to be poorly educated? Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories? - Scientific American[^] Here's Why People Believe In Conspiracy Theories[^]

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                DNFTT, Griff, DNFTT... :sigh:

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                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  DNFTT, Griff, DNFTT... :sigh:

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Lost User
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                  nurse Nurse He's talking to himself again!!

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                  • L Lost User

                    What Orwell failed to predict is that we would buy the cameras ourselves...then worry that no-one was watching.

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                    Slacker007
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                    :thumbsup:

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                    • L Lost User

                      To the monopolized mainstream media, anything that goes contrary is a "Conspiracy theory", and shaming tactics are employed. 600 years ago, this mechanism was called heresy and employed with same tactics. In discourse it is sufficient to be outraged and shout "conspiracy", no need to actually refute. If microsoft had a monopoly on all media, Java and apple would be called "conspiracy theories" too

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                      Lost User
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                      Whoa, this actually sounds reasonable. Some "conspiracy theories" are probably true, because of that tactic. But which ones? Anything involving demonic-anything sounds awfully fishy though.

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                      • R Rage

                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        Person of Interest

                        Curious you talk about it, I found some very interesting insights in this series : it is overall a typical US series on many aspects, especially the exaggeration, but they sometimes had really good points. I am rerererereading the robots from Asimov, and I find similarities in some of the questioning - for instance about how much human beings an AI could reasonably sacrifice for the well being of the rest of the existing or future population.

                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                        Rage wrote:

                        but they sometimes had really good points.

                        It's the first show that I've seen that actually references some real mathematical concepts. It was a new experience to hear something mentioned in the show, and I would wonder, what the heck is that algorithm they just mentioned, google it, and lo-and-behold, it's a real thing. I learned stuff!

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                        for instance about how much human beings an AI could reasonably sacrifice for the well being of the rest of the existing or future population.

                        What I enjoyed about Asimov is that he didn't focus on the tech, but the social implications and challenges of the tech. It made for much more interesting reading! Marc

                        Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                        • G Gary R Wheeler

                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          the series Person of Interest

                          My current guilty pleasure, binge-watching on Netflix.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                          binge-watching on Netflix.

                          Been there, done that. :) Considering doing it again! Marc

                          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                          • L Lost User

                            What Orwell failed to predict is that we would buy the cameras ourselves...then worry that no-one was watching.

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                            Nathan Minier
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                            Yet he failed to predict that brainwashing would be completely unnecessary in the face of the public shaming from the thought police.

                            "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Rage wrote:

                              but they sometimes had really good points.

                              It's the first show that I've seen that actually references some real mathematical concepts. It was a new experience to hear something mentioned in the show, and I would wonder, what the heck is that algorithm they just mentioned, google it, and lo-and-behold, it's a real thing. I learned stuff!

                              Rage wrote:

                              for instance about how much human beings an AI could reasonably sacrifice for the well being of the rest of the existing or future population.

                              What I enjoyed about Asimov is that he didn't focus on the tech, but the social implications and challenges of the tech. It made for much more interesting reading! Marc

                              Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              It's the first show that I've seen that actually references some real mathematical concepts.

                              Do you not watch The Simpsons then? And I take it you missed Numb3rs?

                              I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                              • L Lost User

                                What Orwell failed to predict is that we would buy the cameras ourselves...then worry that no-one was watching.

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                That is actually one of the most brilliant observations I've seen in CP. I can't believe you're from Pompey -- I mean, we're idiots, aren't we?

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                • M Mark_Wallace

                                  That is actually one of the most brilliant observations I've seen in CP. I can't believe you're from Pompey -- I mean, we're idiots, aren't we?

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  Herbie Mountjoy
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                                  1984? Been there. Done that.

                                  I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.

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                                  • M Mandeep8

                                    KGB and stasi would go into houses and place "bugs" American ingenuity was using "bait" with such service as Facebook and cellular, so people would wilfully accept the spying device and carry it 24/7

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                                    Bruce Patin
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                                    U.S. spy agencies do that too.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      We can film the regular police yes, but can we film the secret police?

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                                      Bruce Patin
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                                      Yes, but surreptitiously.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        WHY conspiracy theorists all have a lack of control over their lives? And tend to be poorly educated? Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories? - Scientific American[^] Here's Why People Believe In Conspiracy Theories[^]

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                        Bruce Patin
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                                        Pardon me, but I am a conspiracy theorist and have a degree in physics. I have also lived and worked with spies, still keep in touch a bit, and know that many conspiracy theories are quite valid.

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                                        • C Clifford Nelson

                                          Actually that has been positive. With our own cameras we can watch the police (gestapo) and provide evidence that the police are acting outside accepted parameters, and thus protect the people. It has made such a difference. In the past the police would get away with their bad behavior.

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                                          Ed K
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                                          It's been even more productive with police wearing cameras or in vehicles providing proof that protects the officer. Although in some sad cases the identity of the murderer of the officer.

                                          ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw.

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