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  • C Chris Maunder

    Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Mark_Wallace
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    It's just one more annoyance during the average day. BTW, can anyone tell me just exactly what the fuss is about the ninth of November?

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      Be cause the US is right, and everyone else is wrong

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        It's just one more annoyance during the average day. BTW, can anyone tell me just exactly what the fuss is about the ninth of November?

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        or, in American, the eleventh of September?

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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        • K Kevin Marois

          Be cause the US is right, and everyone else is wrong

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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          Forogar
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          Yeah, that's another thing... Why do the Americans drive on the right when most of the world drive, as they should do, on the left?

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            It's just one more annoyance during the average day. BTW, can anyone tell me just exactly what the fuss is about the ninth of November?

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            W Balboos GHB
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            In non-USA notation, it's 9-11 . One can always create a hub-bub with neurological aspirations.

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            • F Forogar

              or, in American, the eleventh of September?

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Sorry-o, me-o no speakee Swahili. (Except for "jambo", of course, but everyone knows that much)

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              • F Forogar

                Yeah, that's another thing... Why do the Americans drive on the right when most of the world drive, as they should do, on the left?

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                W Balboos GHB
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                Right- and left-hand traffic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^] Ever since we stopped jousting on the main roadways we thought we'd just switch over.

                Ravings en masse^

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                • W W Balboos GHB

                  In non-USA notation, it's 9-11 . One can always create a hub-bub with neurological aspirations.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                  In non-USA notation, it's 9-11

                  Um, yes, I know that 9-11 is the ninth of November. I just want to know why people make such a fuss about it.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    Be cause the US is right, and everyone else is wrong

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    I thought to post some clever repartee - but then I realized:   when you're right you're right.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      5 words - "Because it pisses you off!" All we ever hear is how horrible we are. How we do everything wrong. Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer. We've learned to own it. Most of the things that piss you off about the US of A are now intentional. Suck it up, ladies - head down to your local McDonald's and "enjoy" a horse burger and a Coke! ;)

                      That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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                        5 words - "Because it pisses you off!" All we ever hear is how horrible we are. How we do everything wrong. Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer. We've learned to own it. Most of the things that piss you off about the US of A are now intentional. Suck it up, ladies - head down to your local McDonald's and "enjoy" a horse burger and a Coke! ;)

                        That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                        All we ever hear is how horrible we are. How we do everything wrong

                        Until a natural catastrophe occurs and then suddenly the US is there handing out food. Or when someone invades their country and they cry to US for military intervention. Or when their economy goes down the toilet and then reach the the US foreign aid. Or when.... ... you get the idea.

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                          I think, "mm/dd/yyyy" format is being used where end users forget to change the Locale settings and/or doesn't care about changing it. I am one of them and that is why, I am using "mm/dd/yyyy" format.

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            Wendell D H
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                            I use it because that's how it would usually be spoken. (Usually) One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016. Oh... And I'm also American. :-D

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              Jorgen Andersson
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                              My vote is on the ISO standard. The funny thing with the 'muricans is that they aren't even consistent[^].

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                              • F Forogar

                                Yeah, that's another thing... Why do the Americans drive on the right when most of the world drive, as they should do, on the left?

                                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                So I'm closer to the person in the oncoming car when I flip them off.

                                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                  5 words - "Because it pisses you off!" All we ever hear is how horrible we are. How we do everything wrong. Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer. We've learned to own it. Most of the things that piss you off about the US of A are now intentional. Suck it up, ladies - head down to your local McDonald's and "enjoy" a horse burger and a Coke! ;)

                                  That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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                                  Quote:

                                  Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer.

                                  All true - but you do have the best fried chicken, even if your french fries (actually Belgian) suck compared to English Chips ("chips" are not "crisps" but are better versions of the American/Belgian/French Fries.)

                                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    I use it because that's how it would usually be spoken. (Usually) One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016. Oh... And I'm also American. :-D

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                                    Quote:

                                    One would say June 10th 2016, not 10 June 2016

                                    You might say it in this weird, backwards way because that is the the way you were brought up under the faulty US education system. To you it seems natural just as, to the rest of the world saying, "Tenth of June" is more natural.

                                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      Oh, and Micronesia. At least according to Wikipedia. So why does pretty much every US based service that caters to a worldwide audience use mm/dd/yyyy as a date format Latest example this hour is VS team services "Access issues with Visual Studio Team Services – 5/25 – Investigating". 5/25 = 25 May. That's easy. But when I see 6/7 or 10/8 I have to manually check the site and see what culture they are based in. No one in the US (I'm guessing - apart from ex-pats) worry about this. Or are probably even aware of this issue. Everyone else in every other country is aware of this issue. Everyone in Canada manages to deal with it. And I don't know how their brains don't explode. Canada uses dd/mm/yyyy. Except when it uses mm/dd/yyyy because either it's a US based company, they are using a US based system, they are trying to be nice to their US based customers, because they just forgot to use dd/mm/yyyy or because they know it's me and so they deliberately use an ambiguous date format to do my head in. Date formats in Canada are totally and completely messed up. So: Why, in this day and age, do those in the US, when writing for an international audience, still use mm/dd/yyyy? (And I'll add another one: Why do companies in the US find it impossible to ship outside the US? It's very odd) OK, back to hitting refresh several times a second waiting for Team Services to come back online.

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      Not to mention time zones, winter and summer time, formatting, parsing, the time part of dates, leap years, different ranges in different types/systems, timespans vs. datetimes... Yeah, it's about time someone lost his mind X|

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                                        So I'm closer to the person in the oncoming car when I flip them off.

                                        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                        In left hand drive countries the steering wheel is on the right of the vehicle so the same situation would apply anyway. Of course, for those countries that drive on the left, manners would preclude "flipping off" strangers. ;P

                                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          Wrong date format. Wrong units for temperature, distance, volume, etc... How awful our food, movies and music are. We spell words wrong. We don't know geography. Our entire culture is corrupt. Our foreign policy and politicians are disasters. We drink bad beer.

                                          All true - but you do have the best fried chicken, even if your french fries (actually Belgian) suck compared to English Chips ("chips" are not "crisps" but are better versions of the American/Belgian/French Fries.)

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          Forogar wrote:

                                          but you do have the best fried chicken

                                          Great, now we have to f-up the fried chicken recipes in order to live down to your low expectations and intentionally piss you off. :rolleyes: In the future if there is something American you like - don't say anything. That way the USBPOF(US Bureau of Pissing Off Furriners) won't notice and we'll be able to have something nice for once.

                                          That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister

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