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  • Z ZurdoDev

    So, C# has no left method on a string? :omg: :omg: It would be so easy to add one, lazy Microsoft C# developers. So, use substring. Whoops. Nope. Errors if you give it a length that is longer than the string. I miss VB. :sigh:

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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    Lost User
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    #25

    RyanDev wrote:

    I miss VB. :sigh:

    ..a special place in Hell.

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      Oh, there is, but the definition of the word "music" has changed to be something to do with money for nothing.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Lost User
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      Quote:

      the definition of the word "music" has changed to be something to do with money for nothing

      You nailed it! In a few words you nailed it! Modern music is nothing and worth nothing! Now: How are we going to convince poor souls like Sander that this is true? :-D

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      • L Lost User

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        the definition of the word "music" has changed to be something to do with money for nothing

        You nailed it! In a few words you nailed it! Modern music is nothing and worth nothing! Now: How are we going to convince poor souls like Sander that this is true? :-D

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        Mark_Wallace
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        #27

        I'd suggest a 22oz Estwing and a bunch of four-inch nails.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          So, C# has no left method on a string? :omg: :omg: It would be so easy to add one, lazy Microsoft C# developers. So, use substring. Whoops. Nope. Errors if you give it a length that is longer than the string. I miss VB. :sigh:

          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          glennPattonWork3
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          Quote:

          I miss VB.

          Well someone has to, I suppose...

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          • S Scott Serl

            Here you go:

                public static string Left(this string theString, int length)
                {
                    int sz = length > theString.Length + 1 ? theString.Length:length;
            
                    return theString.Substring(0, sz);
                }
            
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            Richard Deeming
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            #29

            No need to call Substring if the length is greater than (or equal to) the string's length. And you'll get a NullReferenceException if the string is null, whereas VB would return an empty string instead. Seems like an odd choice, but when you're pandering to these VB devs... :rolleyes:

            public static string Left(this string theString, int length)
            {
            if (length < 0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(nameof(length));
            if (theString == null || length == 0) return string.Empty;
            if (theString.Length <= length) return theString;
            return theString.Substring(0, length);
            }

            Now, let's hope he doesn't ask for a C# version of this VB6 abomination:

            Dim s As String = "He11o"
            Mid$(s, 3, 2) = "ll"


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • 9 9082365

              RyanDev wrote:

              Errors if you give it a length that is longer than the string.

              As one would jolly well hope it did. I don't see why MS should take stick for your faulty programming logic.

              I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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              dandy72
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              #30

              Well, he did mention VB. Which teaches everyone bad habits.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                So, C# has no left method on a string? :omg: :omg: It would be so easy to add one, lazy Microsoft C# developers. So, use substring. Whoops. Nope. Errors if you give it a length that is longer than the string. I miss VB. :sigh:

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Super Lloyd
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                #31

                Oh my, you are the quick to hate type, are you not? One tiny method missing and *boom* I hate you MS! That escalated rather quickly! :O At any rate I give you here, free of charge, a solution to use for your own coding pleasure! No, no, no, there is no need to thank me!

                public static class StringExtensions {
                public static string Left(this string s, int n) {
                if (n >= s.Length)
                return "";
                return s.Substring(s.Length - n);
                }
                }

                All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                • Z ZurdoDev

                  So, C# has no left method on a string? :omg: :omg: It would be so easy to add one, lazy Microsoft C# developers. So, use substring. Whoops. Nope. Errors if you give it a length that is longer than the string. I miss VB. :sigh:

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  BillWoodruff
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                  #32

                  While I cherish the myriad weirdnesses I am aware of in my long-term relationship with C#, the absence of 'Left would not qualify. Welcome to Linq: [^]. Unless there's something you just can't stand about the word: "Take" ? :) cheers, Bill

                  «There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    So, C# has no left method on a string? :omg: :omg: It would be so easy to add one, lazy Microsoft C# developers. So, use substring. Whoops. Nope. Errors if you give it a length that is longer than the string. I miss VB. :sigh:

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    These are the string extension methods I wrote ages ago (well, since extension methods have been around): (Note that some of this isn't very elegant, could be LINQ'ified, could be optimized, etc.)

                    	/// /// Returns a new string surrounded by single quotes.
                    	/// 
                    	public static string SingleQuote(this String src)
                    	{
                    		return "'" + src + "'";
                    	}
                    
                    	/// /// Returns a new string surrounded by quotes.
                    	/// 
                    	public static string Quote(this String src)
                    	{
                    		return "\\"" + src + "\\"";
                    	}
                    
                    	/// /// Exchanges ' for " and " for '
                    	/// Javascript JSON support, which must be formatted like '{"foo":"bar"}'
                    	/// 
                    	public static string ExchangeQuoteSingleQuote(this String src)
                    	{
                    		string ret = src.Replace("'", "\\0xFF");
                    		ret = ret.Replace("\\"", "'");
                    		ret = ret.Replace("\\0xFF", "\\"");
                    
                    		return ret;
                    	}
                    
                    	/// /// Returns the source string surrounded by a single whitespace.
                    	/// 
                    	public static string Spaced(this String src)
                    	{
                    		return " " + src + " ";
                    	}
                    
                    	/// /// Returns a new string surrounded by brackets.
                    	/// 
                    	public static string Parens(this String src)
                    	{
                    		return "(" + src + ")";
                    	}
                    
                    	/// /// Returns a new string surrounded by brackets.
                    	/// 
                    	public static string Brackets(this String src)
                    	{
                    		return "\[" + src + "\]";
                    	}
                    
                    	/// /// Returns a new string surrounded by brackets.
                    	/// 
                    	public static string CurlyBraces(this String src)
                    	{
                    		return "{" + src + "}";
                    	}
                    
                    	/// /// Returns everything between the start and end chars, exclusive.
                    	/// 
                    	/// The source string.
                    	/// The first char to find.
                    	/// The end char to find.
                    	/// The string between the start and stop chars, or an empty string if not found.
                    	public static string Between(this string src, char start, char end)
                    	{
                    		string ret = String.Empty;
                    		int idxStart = src.IndexOf(start);
                    
                    		if (idxStart != -1)
                    		{
                    			++idxStart;
                    			int idxEnd = src.IndexOf(end, idxStart);
                    
                    			if (idxEnd != -1)
                    			{
                    				ret = src.Substring(idxStart, idxEnd - idxStart);
                    			}
                    		}
                    
                    		return ret;
                    	}
                    
                    	public static string Between(this string src, string start, string end)
                    	{
                    		string ret = String.Empty;
                    		int idxStart = src.IndexOf(start);
                    
                    		if (idxSta
                    
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                    • M Mark_Wallace

                      Oh, there is, but the definition of the word "music" has changed to be something to do with money for nothing.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Marco Bertschi
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                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                      money for nothing

                      And chicks for free.

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                      • S Scott Serl

                        Here you go:

                            public static string Left(this string theString, int length)
                            {
                                int sz = length > theString.Length + 1 ? theString.Length:length;
                        
                                return theString.Substring(0, sz);
                            }
                        
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                        Jono Stewart
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                        #35

                        Don't forget the null check! And a small tweak because I like doing it this way :P It's called Truncate in my library, but if you're from VB, I guess Left is ok... Or you could just reference the Microsoft.VisualBasic assembly!

                        public static string Left(this string target, int length)
                        {
                        if(string.IsNullOrEmpty(target) //could just do == null; condition below caters to empty (which is faster I wonder)
                        return target;

                        return target.SubString(0, Math.Min(target.Length, length));
                        

                        }

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          Oh my, you are the quick to hate type, are you not? One tiny method missing and *boom* I hate you MS! That escalated rather quickly! :O At any rate I give you here, free of charge, a solution to use for your own coding pleasure! No, no, no, there is no need to thank me!

                          public static class StringExtensions {
                          public static string Left(this string s, int n) {
                          if (n >= s.Length)
                          return "";
                          return s.Substring(s.Length - n);
                          }
                          }

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                          Jono Stewart
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                          #36

                          Looks like a 'Right' to me, rather than a 'Left' :)

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                          • Z ZurdoDev

                            So, C# has no left method on a string? :omg: :omg: It would be so easy to add one, lazy Microsoft C# developers. So, use substring. Whoops. Nope. Errors if you give it a length that is longer than the string. I miss VB. :sigh:

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            Sander Rossel
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                            Yesterday I noticed one of our projects has a reference to Microsoft.VisualBasic. What the...? Upon closer inspection I found it was needed for new My.Computer.Devices.ComputerInfo().TotalPhysicalMemory(). Looked around on the web, and there really isn't an easy C# variant :sigh:

                            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            • L Lost User

                              Quote:

                              The seventies are back, for certain.

                              Except for the music! There is no music anymore! X|

                              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                              Wastedtalent
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #38

                              I found music. I raided my parents Vinyl collection. Love that warm crackly sound of old LP records.

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                              • M Marco Bertschi

                                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                money for nothing

                                And chicks for free.

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                                den2k88
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #39

                                We've got to install microwave ovens!

                                GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                                • J Jono Stewart

                                  Looks like a 'Right' to me, rather than a 'Left' :)

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                                  Super Lloyd
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                                  #40

                                  Ahem.. you know what? You could even be right! :rolleyes: :laugh:

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                                  • S Super Lloyd

                                    Oh my, you are the quick to hate type, are you not? One tiny method missing and *boom* I hate you MS! That escalated rather quickly! :O At any rate I give you here, free of charge, a solution to use for your own coding pleasure! No, no, no, there is no need to thank me!

                                    public static class StringExtensions {
                                    public static string Left(this string s, int n) {
                                    if (n >= s.Length)
                                    return "";
                                    return s.Substring(s.Length - n);
                                    }
                                    }

                                    All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                    den2k88
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                                    Excuse me but: Several GB worth of Framework, poorly documented, with an inextricable Hell of dependencies and Assembly idiosyncrasies and seemingly duplicated functionality which should live in the same ecosystem but are as incompatible as coffe and salt... and I have to write my farking own version of a function that existed 20 years ago to do the easiest and stupidest thing on Earth? So much for The Framework™.

                                    GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                                      Excuse me but: Several GB worth of Framework, poorly documented, with an inextricable Hell of dependencies and Assembly idiosyncrasies and seemingly duplicated functionality which should live in the same ecosystem but are as incompatible as coffe and salt... and I have to write my farking own version of a function that existed 20 years ago to do the easiest and stupidest thing on Earth? So much for The Framework™.

                                      GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                                      Super Lloyd
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                                      #42

                                      I am still wondering if you are really throwing a tantrum for a "missing 2 lines function" or it is in fact a joke!? Haha! :laugh: Your seemingly deep anger make it all the more laughable! haha! :wtf: :rolleyes: :laugh:

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                                      • S Super Lloyd

                                        I am still wondering if you are really throwing a tantrum for a "missing 2 lines function" or it is in fact a joke!? Haha! :laugh: Your seemingly deep anger make it all the more laughable! haha! :wtf: :rolleyes: :laugh:

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                                        den2k88
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                                        #43

                                        My tantrum is directeed to the pile of sunshine that is the .NET framework, in fact I usually make my own libraries anyway. Still for a "framework" so bloated not having a simple and fundamental function is basically an indication of utter failure.

                                        GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                                        • S Super Lloyd

                                          Oh my, you are the quick to hate type, are you not? One tiny method missing and *boom* I hate you MS! That escalated rather quickly! :O At any rate I give you here, free of charge, a solution to use for your own coding pleasure! No, no, no, there is no need to thank me!

                                          public static class StringExtensions {
                                          public static string Left(this string s, int n) {
                                          if (n >= s.Length)
                                          return "";
                                          return s.Substring(s.Length - n);
                                          }
                                          }

                                          All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                          ZurdoDev
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #44

                                          Super Lloyd wrote:

                                          you are the quick to hate type, are you not?

                                          No.

                                          Super Lloyd wrote:

                                          One tiny method missing and boom I hate you MS!

                                          I'm trying to fit in with the Lounge crowd. :-\

                                          Super Lloyd wrote:

                                          public static class StringExtensions { public static string Left(this string s, int n) { if (n >= s.Length) return ""; return s.Substring(s.Length - n); } }

                                          You tried to sneak that one there. return "". How dare you. :mad:

                                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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