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  • L Lost User

    This is better.[^] It's the closest we will ever get to the rather abstract concept of 'truth'.

    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
    This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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    I dunno about that. From my experience of working with logic, the deeper you get into it, the further away the truth seems to be.

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      The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth | Answers in Genesis[^] Worth a read

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      That islamic guy at my door yesterday had some similar ideas, differed in others and quite aggressively insisted on having the one and only right view of things. Do you perhaps share his ideas of how to deal with those who disagree?

      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        I dunno about that. From my experience of working with logic, the deeper you get into it, the further away the truth seems to be.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Exactly. And what does that tell us about those who claim to have the answers to everything?

        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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        • R RossMW

          Now Now Now Take a deep breath Now count to 10 By the way bullshit and facts are oxymorons and cannot co-exist.

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          RossMW wrote:

          By the way bullsh*t and facts are oxymorons and cannot co-exist.

          That's why I invented the word "bullfact":

          bullfact

          1. n. A fact that is used to mislead or deceive.
          2. adj. (A fact) being used to mislead or deceive.
          3. v.t.
            i. Use a fact with the purpose of misleading or deceiving.
            ii. Omit facts with the purpose of misleading or deceiving.
            bullfactory
          4. n.
            i. The act of using bullfacts.
            ii. A place/organisation/institution/big mouth where bullfacts occur with some frequency.

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          • L Lost User

            Exactly. And what does that tell us about those who claim to have the answers to everything?

            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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            That they can count to 42?

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              That they can count to 42?

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              Actually, no. I have not yet seen anyone actually do that. It seems like it's sufficient for them to be able to memorize that number.

              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
              This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
              "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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              • L Lost User

                Actually, no. I have not yet seen anyone actually do that. It seems like it's sufficient for them to be able to memorize that number.

                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                Oh, but that's easy if you just have faith! One. Two. Erm...Three? Many? Lots? 42 See how easy it all is if you aren't allowed to think? :laugh:

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Oh, but that's easy if you just have faith! One. Two. Erm...Three? Many? Lots? 42 See how easy it all is if you aren't allowed to think? :laugh:

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                  Since I lack all that blind faith - how does this[^] fit into the picture?

                  The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                  This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                  "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Since I lack all that blind faith - how does this[^] fit into the picture?

                    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                    This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                    "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                    Well, obviously that is upside down. So it's the work of Santa!

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Well, obviously that is upside down. So it's the work of Santa!

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                      Santa? The sock puppet of Coca Cola?

                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Santa? The sock puppet of Coca Cola?

                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                        That's what they want you to think! Actually, he's one of Our Lizard Masters: IRON SKY 2[^]

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                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • P PradeepGaggandeep

                          The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth | Answers in Genesis[^] Worth a read

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                          I met a viking who told me I should believe in Odin, Thor, Freya and a lot of other gods. I then traveled to the south to met a German who said they're actually called Wodan and Donar. Travelling further I stumbled upon the village of Asterix, who told me Belenos and others were the gods to worship. My travels brought me to Italy and all of a sudden I found people prayed to a bunch of planets! Still seeking for the truth I traveled to Greece and learned about Zeus, Hercules and Hades. Seemed like a nice bunch. So anyway, I had to go on and came to Egypt. Osiris, Isis and Anubis were worshiped, to name but a few. Traveling further to India people worshiped Vishnu, Lakshmi and Shiva. Those are just a few of the more popular pantheons that were once (or still) considered "the truth". Other deities included Izanagi, Izanami, Hiruko (Japanese), Ba, Yu-Huang, Lei-King, Lei-Tzi (China), Qoatlicue, Quetzalcoatl (Aztec), Kokopelli, Nanook, Asdzą́ą́ Nádleehé (different native American tribes), Anu, Eriskhigal, Gilgamesh (Sumerian) and many, many, many, many more (thousands and thousands). Then came Christianity and, unfortunately, one of the greatest conquerors of that time decided everyone should worship that one God. He did a pretty good job in converting (read: killing all those who didn't believe) the European continent. Then things started to get really messy, because, even though everyone believed in the same God, they couldn't agree on how to worship him. Some said we needed great churches with riches beyond your imagination. Others said we needed sober churches and wealth wasn't an issue. Long story short, there are, again, thousands of religions. The biggest difference with ye olden days is that they now all believe in the same God. Some God, who can't keep his followers straight. Anyway, the prophet Mohammed decided it was time for the same God, but slightly different, and founded the Islam. They've been in the news a lot lately. Like Christians, Islamic people aren't always very peaceful. Now what do all these religions have in common? They claim to have the truth, but they haven't. They're replaced with something else. They're responsible for many wars and death's. They're complete and utter nonsense. A lot of them can be found in popular pop culture like books, music, video games and movies. Now if I want a good laugh I'll be sure to read your article. Until that time comes I have a few thousands "truths" to catch up to. Yours is last on the list, right after Pastafarianism (who claim the F

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            I met a viking who told me I should believe in Odin, Thor, Freya and a lot of other gods. I then traveled to the south to met a German who said they're actually called Wodan and Donar. Travelling further I stumbled upon the village of Asterix, who told me Belenos and others were the gods to worship. My travels brought me to Italy and all of a sudden I found people prayed to a bunch of planets! Still seeking for the truth I traveled to Greece and learned about Zeus, Hercules and Hades. Seemed like a nice bunch. So anyway, I had to go on and came to Egypt. Osiris, Isis and Anubis were worshiped, to name but a few. Traveling further to India people worshiped Vishnu, Lakshmi and Shiva. Those are just a few of the more popular pantheons that were once (or still) considered "the truth". Other deities included Izanagi, Izanami, Hiruko (Japanese), Ba, Yu-Huang, Lei-King, Lei-Tzi (China), Qoatlicue, Quetzalcoatl (Aztec), Kokopelli, Nanook, Asdzą́ą́ Nádleehé (different native American tribes), Anu, Eriskhigal, Gilgamesh (Sumerian) and many, many, many, many more (thousands and thousands). Then came Christianity and, unfortunately, one of the greatest conquerors of that time decided everyone should worship that one God. He did a pretty good job in converting (read: killing all those who didn't believe) the European continent. Then things started to get really messy, because, even though everyone believed in the same God, they couldn't agree on how to worship him. Some said we needed great churches with riches beyond your imagination. Others said we needed sober churches and wealth wasn't an issue. Long story short, there are, again, thousands of religions. The biggest difference with ye olden days is that they now all believe in the same God. Some God, who can't keep his followers straight. Anyway, the prophet Mohammed decided it was time for the same God, but slightly different, and founded the Islam. They've been in the news a lot lately. Like Christians, Islamic people aren't always very peaceful. Now what do all these religions have in common? They claim to have the truth, but they haven't. They're replaced with something else. They're responsible for many wars and death's. They're complete and utter nonsense. A lot of them can be found in popular pop culture like books, music, video games and movies. Now if I want a good laugh I'll be sure to read your article. Until that time comes I have a few thousands "truths" to catch up to. Yours is last on the list, right after Pastafarianism (who claim the F

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                            Hey! The old gods are alive and well. Wdnesday = Wotan's day = Odin's day. Thursday = Thor's day, in German it's Donnerstag, very similar to Donar and Donner still is the word for thunder. And there is also Friday, acually Freya's day. And you forgot Teutates for Asterix. :-)

                            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                            • P PradeepGaggandeep

                              The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth | Answers in Genesis[^] Worth a read

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                              So, here's a thing. If your expert can't even interpret his own Biblical references correctly (there is no claim to infallibility in the Timothy verse nor to God's authorship and this is even more obvious in the original Greek) why would anyone trust the pseudo-science, actually make that faux science, in the rest of the article? It is indeed worth a read as a perfect demonstration as to how fundamentalism pretends to be read literally out of the Bible when in fact it is a pre-determined doctrinal position read into the Bible. Nowhere is this more obvious than in any interpretation of Genesis which fails to take any account of the fact that it contains at least two (and arguably as many as four) different creation myths which the final redactor has done nothing to render consistent indicating that his intention is in no way a historical or scientific account of actual events. I recommend, nay insist upon, reading the excellent Escaping Fundamentalism by James Barr. In fact, I'll happily buy you a copy!

                              I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                              • L Lost User

                                Hey! The old gods are alive and well. Wdnesday = Wotan's day = Odin's day. Thursday = Thor's day, in German it's Donnerstag, very similar to Donar and Donner still is the word for thunder. And there is also Friday, acually Freya's day. And you forgot Teutates for Asterix. :-)

                                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                                Alive and kicking![^]

                                I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                  So, here's a thing. If your expert can't even interpret his own Biblical references correctly (there is no claim to infallibility in the Timothy verse nor to God's authorship and this is even more obvious in the original Greek) why would anyone trust the pseudo-science, actually make that faux science, in the rest of the article? It is indeed worth a read as a perfect demonstration as to how fundamentalism pretends to be read literally out of the Bible when in fact it is a pre-determined doctrinal position read into the Bible. Nowhere is this more obvious than in any interpretation of Genesis which fails to take any account of the fact that it contains at least two (and arguably as many as four) different creation myths which the final redactor has done nothing to render consistent indicating that his intention is in no way a historical or scientific account of actual events. I recommend, nay insist upon, reading the excellent Escaping Fundamentalism by James Barr. In fact, I'll happily buy you a copy!

                                  I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!

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                                  I am not trying to start an argument - but your statement about the Greek is factually incorrect. I can read Koine Greek, and the hapax legomena term "theopneustos" (lit. God-breathed) in the Timothy verse is, indeed, a claim to God's authorship. This is purely objective linguistic judgment. It is perfectly valid for you to state that you do not believe that claim to be original or truthful, but it is not valid for you to state that it does not make such a claim. In evaluating anything, we must strive to be as objective as possible without letting our feelings or preconceptions leading us astray.

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    You seem to know a lot about this! Would you be so kind as to provide me with links to published, peer-reviewed scientific articles to support that complete and utter bullshit?

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                                    2 or 3 idiots peer reviewing a piece of toilet paper does not make it fact Evolution changes "facts" every few weeks. Would you rather base your eternal security on something that changes every few weeks, or something that has held strong for over 2000 years? If you could put your money in a bank that changed names as fast as evolution theory, or one that has existed for 2000 years, which would you pick?

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                                      2 or 3 idiots peer reviewing a piece of toilet paper does not make it fact Evolution changes "facts" every few weeks. Would you rather base your eternal security on something that changes every few weeks, or something that has held strong for over 2000 years? If you could put your money in a bank that changed names as fast as evolution theory, or one that has existed for 2000 years, which would you pick?

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                                      Would you rather bet your life on a medicine that has been rigorously blind tested and proven to work on the disease you suffer from, or visit your witch doctor so he can shake a stick at you and chant? The latter is the older medical treatment that has existed for probably tens of thousands of years... Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory which explains and predicted extremely well changes we can and have seen happening in a population. Being a theory it is of course open to replacement if a better theory comes along and explains and predicts things better. And as for "something that has held strong for over 2000 years?" I would suggest you check your "facts" there as well unless you are reading it in the original paleo-Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, or selected as "correct" by the papal Council of Carthage in 397AD (except for the Deuterocanonical books which were removed from the King James version in 1611 of course).

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        People should study this[^], too.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        Yes, a game about Japanese pocket monsters - demons- that has so far claimed the lives of a few children and harmed the mind of many more. Is it any surprise that the game contains references to evolution?

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                                          Would you rather bet your life on a medicine that has been rigorously blind tested and proven to work on the disease you suffer from, or visit your witch doctor so he can shake a stick at you and chant? The latter is the older medical treatment that has existed for probably tens of thousands of years... Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory which explains and predicted extremely well changes we can and have seen happening in a population. Being a theory it is of course open to replacement if a better theory comes along and explains and predicts things better. And as for "something that has held strong for over 2000 years?" I would suggest you check your "facts" there as well unless you are reading it in the original paleo-Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, or selected as "correct" by the papal Council of Carthage in 397AD (except for the Deuterocanonical books which were removed from the King James version in 1611 of course).

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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          Evolution doesn't change "facts" at all: it isn't a "fact", it's a theory

                                          Now you understand.

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