HP you are a big pile of retards
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Interesting... I have an 6700 too... Very good... I can print rich black if all cartridges have ink in, but I can print black-only if one of the colors are out... I even can print magenta without magenta ink - it only stops to confirm me, but if I respond 'OK' it will print crap of image with missing colors... Can even change cartridges in the middle of the printing (between pages - where it checks for ink)... The funnies thing, that the ids thought this printer need no paper to put in... The ever first closed-tray printer they saw :-D
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
I can print black-only if one of the colors are out
No way. As soon as the printer detects an empty cartridge, it blocks (on the printer, not on the PC side), so you cannot do anything at all. Hitting a key or starting something brings the warning "Cartridge xxx needs to be changed". Mine also checks for ink during about 7 minutes every time I start it. You can hear it pumping, and pumping, and pumping, and pumping again. I can print two or maximal three pages with one cartridge, then they are empty.
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Rage wrote:
it will not even SCAN if cyan is empty
This is one of the reasons that I am not a fan of "all in one" devices. OTOH, the requirement to have all cartridges before printing does make some sense; the printer has no way to determine what colors will be used in a page before it has received the entire page, at which point it is probably too late to tell the computer or the spooler "sorry, I can't print this". Perhaps colour printers should come with a monochrome setting, which when activated would tell the printer that all colours should be converted to grey scale? BTW, have you considered a colour laser printer? The toner doesn't dry out.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
the printer has no way to determine what colors will be used in a page before it has received the entire page
The driver knows what has to be printed, and knows how much ink is left, so it can decide whether printing shall be allowed or not, or even, let's be crazy, LET THE USER DECIDE about what HE wants to do with the printer HE has bought. But this would mean sw development compentency for the driver, and this is obviously not a requirement for being SW developer at HP.
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Rage wrote:
it will not even SCAN if cyan is empty
This is one of the reasons that I am not a fan of "all in one" devices. OTOH, the requirement to have all cartridges before printing does make some sense; the printer has no way to determine what colors will be used in a page before it has received the entire page, at which point it is probably too late to tell the computer or the spooler "sorry, I can't print this". Perhaps colour printers should come with a monochrome setting, which when activated would tell the printer that all colours should be converted to grey scale? BTW, have you considered a colour laser printer? The toner doesn't dry out.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
BTW, have you considered a colour laser printer? The toner doesn't dry out.
Laser rhymes with expensive.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
I can print black-only if one of the colors are out
No way. As soon as the printer detects an empty cartridge, it blocks (on the printer, not on the PC side), so you cannot do anything at all. Hitting a key or starting something brings the warning "Cartridge xxx needs to be changed". Mine also checks for ink during about 7 minutes every time I start it. You can hear it pumping, and pumping, and pumping, and pumping again. I can print two or maximal three pages with one cartridge, then they are empty.
Rage wrote:
I can print two or maximal three pages with one cartridge
Are we talking about the same thing? Hp 6700[^] 2-3 pages sounds like a real bug... I can print a few hundreds before replacing...
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
the printer has no way to determine what colors will be used in a page before it has received the entire page
The driver knows what has to be printed, and knows how much ink is left, so it can decide whether printing shall be allowed or not, or even, let's be crazy, LET THE USER DECIDE about what HE wants to do with the printer HE has bought. But this would mean sw development compentency for the driver, and this is obviously not a requirement for being SW developer at HP.
It's all about selling ink. You're system was obviously defective with respect to ink detection but that's beside the point. Epson had a chip in each cartridge. HP has a serial number encoded into the cartridge, which, when it got feisty, forced a change. It remembered a three-cartridge chain.. All of this was to prevent refilling. Naturally, this helped the work-around industry. My Mrs. uses the printer/scanner like a copy machine so I refill the blank cartridge for as long as I can. Usually quite a long time. The company that I buy refill ink from tells you how to get around the 3-cartridge que with a single cartridge. It's still good to keep a backup. Now I had a Brother printer. It wouldn't to jack w/o the cartridge. These, unlike Epson & HP, were simple (cheap) tanks and refill was trivial. That was because of a single permanent print head. When the head went bad, out into the trash with it as replacement cost as much as the printer. I decided the more costly cartridge style, with built in print head, was cheaper as I refill the things. HP cartridge purchases are roughly every two years or so.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
BTW, have you considered a colour laser printer? The toner doesn't dry out.
Laser rhymes with expensive.
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Rage wrote:
Laser rhymes with expensive.
No, it doesn't. Not these days. Anyway, anything's got to be cheaper than buying a new cartridge for every print run, surely?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
Don't call him Shirley... You do not want to stand his cold Rage... :-D
Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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THIS.IS.ENOUGH. EVERY fucking time I want to print something with a damn officejet 6700, I have to BUY A NEW INK CARTRIDGE. This makes 15,9€ pro printed pages, and this fucking thing will not print in black if cyan is empty, it will not even SCAN if cyan is empty. CYAN is the ultimate power, since obviously, without CYAN, nothing is possible in this world. Dear HP, your hardware is a big pile of shit, your software must have been outsourced to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it back to your own developers, who obviously have never heard of non intrusive software working properly, or even about driver programming. So the office jet 6700 just landed where it always belonged to : in the TRASH. Oh, and this was the LAST TIME EVER that I had put hands on an HP product. Fuck you, HP, you suck big times.
We have an HP Envy 5660, and have had no issues with it. Color ink out? Still prints black & white. No ink? Still scans.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism. Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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THIS.IS.ENOUGH. EVERY fucking time I want to print something with a damn officejet 6700, I have to BUY A NEW INK CARTRIDGE. This makes 15,9€ pro printed pages, and this fucking thing will not print in black if cyan is empty, it will not even SCAN if cyan is empty. CYAN is the ultimate power, since obviously, without CYAN, nothing is possible in this world. Dear HP, your hardware is a big pile of shit, your software must have been outsourced to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it back to your own developers, who obviously have never heard of non intrusive software working properly, or even about driver programming. So the office jet 6700 just landed where it always belonged to : in the TRASH. Oh, and this was the LAST TIME EVER that I had put hands on an HP product. Fuck you, HP, you suck big times.
The media suites that come with printers are often worth more than the actual printer. Those are an often ignored gem.
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THIS.IS.ENOUGH. EVERY fucking time I want to print something with a damn officejet 6700, I have to BUY A NEW INK CARTRIDGE. This makes 15,9€ pro printed pages, and this fucking thing will not print in black if cyan is empty, it will not even SCAN if cyan is empty. CYAN is the ultimate power, since obviously, without CYAN, nothing is possible in this world. Dear HP, your hardware is a big pile of shit, your software must have been outsourced to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it back to your own developers, who obviously have never heard of non intrusive software working properly, or even about driver programming. So the office jet 6700 just landed where it always belonged to : in the TRASH. Oh, and this was the LAST TIME EVER that I had put hands on an HP product. Fuck you, HP, you suck big times.
I do have a Canon MAXIFY MB2050 MFP (9538B006)[^] at home. The printer driver is neatly programmed and using the whole thing has been a pleasing experience to me so far. None of the intrusive BS other manufacturers have given me to date.
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THIS.IS.ENOUGH. EVERY fucking time I want to print something with a damn officejet 6700, I have to BUY A NEW INK CARTRIDGE. This makes 15,9€ pro printed pages, and this fucking thing will not print in black if cyan is empty, it will not even SCAN if cyan is empty. CYAN is the ultimate power, since obviously, without CYAN, nothing is possible in this world. Dear HP, your hardware is a big pile of shit, your software must have been outsourced to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it back to your own developers, who obviously have never heard of non intrusive software working properly, or even about driver programming. So the office jet 6700 just landed where it always belonged to : in the TRASH. Oh, and this was the LAST TIME EVER that I had put hands on an HP product. Fuck you, HP, you suck big times.
Your rant is useless because you never had the balls to send this to Hewlett Packard, where it has "potential for change". No, instead you send it here, where your emotional energy has been wasted, once again. :sigh:
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THIS.IS.ENOUGH. EVERY fucking time I want to print something with a damn officejet 6700, I have to BUY A NEW INK CARTRIDGE. This makes 15,9€ pro printed pages, and this fucking thing will not print in black if cyan is empty, it will not even SCAN if cyan is empty. CYAN is the ultimate power, since obviously, without CYAN, nothing is possible in this world. Dear HP, your hardware is a big pile of shit, your software must have been outsourced to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it back to your own developers, who obviously have never heard of non intrusive software working properly, or even about driver programming. So the office jet 6700 just landed where it always belonged to : in the TRASH. Oh, and this was the LAST TIME EVER that I had put hands on an HP product. Fuck you, HP, you suck big times.
I have a Canon that does the same thing. It isn't just HP. It's just cheap printers. They have to make money somehow. My printer was free. So I can't complain when it goes through ink quickly.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Your rant is useless because you never had the balls to send this to Hewlett Packard, where it has "potential for change". No, instead you send it here, where your emotional energy has been wasted, once again. :sigh:
Slacker007 wrote:
Your rant is useless
Have something against the OP personally? Dang! Perhaps you have forgotten that some people post topics to converse about and they don't necessarily want you to fix the problem. You are being a typical male, thinking that everything you come across is a challenge to be fixed. I suggest you go through this training, it should help you: It's not about the nail - YouTube[^]
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Slacker007 wrote:
Your rant is useless
Have something against the OP personally? Dang! Perhaps you have forgotten that some people post topics to converse about and they don't necessarily want you to fix the problem. You are being a typical male, thinking that everything you come across is a challenge to be fixed. I suggest you go through this training, it should help you: It's not about the nail - YouTube[^]
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
Have something against the OP personally? Dang!
Nope, not at all.
RyanDev wrote:
You are being a typical male, thinking that everything you come across is a challenge to be fixed.
:confused: Did you forget to take your meds this morning? I think you did. :laugh:
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RyanDev wrote:
Have something against the OP personally? Dang!
Nope, not at all.
RyanDev wrote:
You are being a typical male, thinking that everything you come across is a challenge to be fixed.
:confused: Did you forget to take your meds this morning? I think you did. :laugh:
Slacker007 wrote:
Did you forget to take your meds this morning?
Ah, so not against the OP personally. Just in a bad mood. Watch the video, that should fix things.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Your rant is useless because you never had the balls to send this to Hewlett Packard, where it has "potential for change". No, instead you send it here, where your emotional energy has been wasted, once again. :sigh:
Do not underestimate me :) : They have never cared to answer though.
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Do not underestimate me :) : They have never cared to answer though.
:thumbsup:
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Slacker007 wrote:
Did you forget to take your meds this morning?
Ah, so not against the OP personally. Just in a bad mood. Watch the video, that should fix things.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Take your video and stick up your ass. :laugh:
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Take your video and stick up your ass. :laugh:
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THIS.IS.ENOUGH. EVERY fucking time I want to print something with a damn officejet 6700, I have to BUY A NEW INK CARTRIDGE. This makes 15,9€ pro printed pages, and this fucking thing will not print in black if cyan is empty, it will not even SCAN if cyan is empty. CYAN is the ultimate power, since obviously, without CYAN, nothing is possible in this world. Dear HP, your hardware is a big pile of shit, your software must have been outsourced to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it to a company that outsourced it back to your own developers, who obviously have never heard of non intrusive software working properly, or even about driver programming. So the office jet 6700 just landed where it always belonged to : in the TRASH. Oh, and this was the LAST TIME EVER that I had put hands on an HP product. Fuck you, HP, you suck big times.
I feel your pain. I got sick of buying new ink cartridges for my HP. So I dusted off my old Samsung laser printer that I've had for almost 10 years. I thought it was dead, because when I moved last year I accidentally left it unsecured and it ended up with a large crack in its outer case. I was feeling motivated this weekend, so I fixed the case with super glue, and bought a new toner cartridge for less than $20. I plugged it in, sent it a test document, and it worked just like it did when it was new. The toner should last ~3000 pages, so it's costing me far less than the HP and the print quality is better too.
