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An armed society is a polite society. Y'all sound like the idiots here in Texas that were claiming that the new "open carry" law would result in blood running in the streets, and that it would be "like the old west". A couple of things you are probably ignorant of (if you don't live here): 0) To carry a pistol in Texas, you need to pass a (hopefully) rigorous background check, take a training class on the legalities of using your weapon, and spend at least four hours of actual range time to prove proficiency. After that, you get your concealed carry license. 1) You must be at least 21 years of age before you can legally possess a hand gun and get a concealed carry license. For rifles, the minimum age to own is 18 (I think), and openly carrying a rifle is legal without a license. 2) The number of people that are licensed to carry in Texas, and that have abused that privilege can be counted on ONE HAND. Compare that to the number of cops that have broken the law (they're allowed to openly carry weapons), and any reasonable person begins to wonder who should/should not be carrying a weapon. Finally, someone that wants to shoot up a classroom or teachers office will most certainly NOT be deterred by gun-free-zone signs. The only thing that might deter them is the knowledge that they could be shot themselves, but the insane are rarely concerned for their own life. All this hand-wringing and doom-saying is pointless, absurd, and laughable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013As the Dallas police found out recently, when the bullets start flying, the line between "good guy" and "bad guy" gets very blurry.
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I think students not on mind-altering drugs should be suspended.
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Excellent suggestion! I suggest we pass a motion immediately! ;P
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CDP1802 wrote:
even the mice in the kitchen had to wear a tie.
Now, that is just the worst!! Were you studying an MBA or something nefarious like that?! :omg:
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No, just the fanciest private school El Paso had to offer. My father's employer paid part of the tuition fees to spare us kids the overfilled public schools.
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An armed society is a polite society. Y'all sound like the idiots here in Texas that were claiming that the new "open carry" law would result in blood running in the streets, and that it would be "like the old west". A couple of things you are probably ignorant of (if you don't live here): 0) To carry a pistol in Texas, you need to pass a (hopefully) rigorous background check, take a training class on the legalities of using your weapon, and spend at least four hours of actual range time to prove proficiency. After that, you get your concealed carry license. 1) You must be at least 21 years of age before you can legally possess a hand gun and get a concealed carry license. For rifles, the minimum age to own is 18 (I think), and openly carrying a rifle is legal without a license. 2) The number of people that are licensed to carry in Texas, and that have abused that privilege can be counted on ONE HAND. Compare that to the number of cops that have broken the law (they're allowed to openly carry weapons), and any reasonable person begins to wonder who should/should not be carrying a weapon. Finally, someone that wants to shoot up a classroom or teachers office will most certainly NOT be deterred by gun-free-zone signs. The only thing that might deter them is the knowledge that they could be shot themselves, but the insane are rarely concerned for their own life. All this hand-wringing and doom-saying is pointless, absurd, and laughable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013:thumbsup: And I don't even own a gun. Unless glue guns count.
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An armed society is a polite society. Y'all sound like the idiots here in Texas that were claiming that the new "open carry" law would result in blood running in the streets, and that it would be "like the old west". A couple of things you are probably ignorant of (if you don't live here): 0) To carry a pistol in Texas, you need to pass a (hopefully) rigorous background check, take a training class on the legalities of using your weapon, and spend at least four hours of actual range time to prove proficiency. After that, you get your concealed carry license. 1) You must be at least 21 years of age before you can legally possess a hand gun and get a concealed carry license. For rifles, the minimum age to own is 18 (I think), and openly carrying a rifle is legal without a license. 2) The number of people that are licensed to carry in Texas, and that have abused that privilege can be counted on ONE HAND. Compare that to the number of cops that have broken the law (they're allowed to openly carry weapons), and any reasonable person begins to wonder who should/should not be carrying a weapon. Finally, someone that wants to shoot up a classroom or teachers office will most certainly NOT be deterred by gun-free-zone signs. The only thing that might deter them is the knowledge that they could be shot themselves, but the insane are rarely concerned for their own life. All this hand-wringing and doom-saying is pointless, absurd, and laughable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Amen.. Agree 100 percent
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As the Dallas police found out recently, when the bullets start flying, the line between "good guy" and "bad guy" gets very blurry.
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Dave KreskowiakNot as blurry as you might think.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
My mantra: "Every feature leeds to new bugs" => So where is a gun, there will be shooting. It all gets worse - or am I only getting old? :((
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KarstenK wrote:
So where is a gun, there will be shooting
There have been guns in my house for over 40 years, and there hasn't been a single shooting there. Your generalization sucks big hairy donkey testicles.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Not as blurry as you might think.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I'm not going by what I think. I'm going by what they said.
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An armed society is a polite society. Y'all sound like the idiots here in Texas that were claiming that the new "open carry" law would result in blood running in the streets, and that it would be "like the old west". A couple of things you are probably ignorant of (if you don't live here): 0) To carry a pistol in Texas, you need to pass a (hopefully) rigorous background check, take a training class on the legalities of using your weapon, and spend at least four hours of actual range time to prove proficiency. After that, you get your concealed carry license. 1) You must be at least 21 years of age before you can legally possess a hand gun and get a concealed carry license. For rifles, the minimum age to own is 18 (I think), and openly carrying a rifle is legal without a license. 2) The number of people that are licensed to carry in Texas, and that have abused that privilege can be counted on ONE HAND. Compare that to the number of cops that have broken the law (they're allowed to openly carry weapons), and any reasonable person begins to wonder who should/should not be carrying a weapon. Finally, someone that wants to shoot up a classroom or teachers office will most certainly NOT be deterred by gun-free-zone signs. The only thing that might deter them is the knowledge that they could be shot themselves, but the insane are rarely concerned for their own life. All this hand-wringing and doom-saying is pointless, absurd, and laughable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The number of people that are licensed to carry in Texas, and that have abused that privilege can be counted on ONE HAND
Yup, a hand that's been blown to a million pieces by a shotgun. But didn't I hear that Alaska is the worst state for gun deaths? Hunting accidents, frozen stocks, and suicides, I suppose.
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KarstenK wrote:
So where is a gun, there will be shooting
There have been guns in my house for over 40 years, and there hasn't been a single shooting there. Your generalization sucks big hairy donkey testicles.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I hereby sentence you to watch His Girl Friday[^].
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An armed society is a polite society. Y'all sound like the idiots here in Texas that were claiming that the new "open carry" law would result in blood running in the streets, and that it would be "like the old west". A couple of things you are probably ignorant of (if you don't live here): 0) To carry a pistol in Texas, you need to pass a (hopefully) rigorous background check, take a training class on the legalities of using your weapon, and spend at least four hours of actual range time to prove proficiency. After that, you get your concealed carry license. 1) You must be at least 21 years of age before you can legally possess a hand gun and get a concealed carry license. For rifles, the minimum age to own is 18 (I think), and openly carrying a rifle is legal without a license. 2) The number of people that are licensed to carry in Texas, and that have abused that privilege can be counted on ONE HAND. Compare that to the number of cops that have broken the law (they're allowed to openly carry weapons), and any reasonable person begins to wonder who should/should not be carrying a weapon. Finally, someone that wants to shoot up a classroom or teachers office will most certainly NOT be deterred by gun-free-zone signs. The only thing that might deter them is the knowledge that they could be shot themselves, but the insane are rarely concerned for their own life. All this hand-wringing and doom-saying is pointless, absurd, and laughable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
An armed society is a polite society.
Is that why the "Wild West" is noted with sophistication and everyone being courteous to each other?
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
An armed society is a polite society.
Is that why the "Wild West" is noted with sophistication and everyone being courteous to each other?
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
If you go back and review history, the number of criminal shootings was lower per capita than they are today. So that makes "wild west" doomsayers just plain stupid.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
If you go back and review history, the number of criminal shootings was lower per capita than they are today. So that makes "wild west" doomsayers just plain stupid.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
If you go back and review history, the number of criminal shootings was lower per capita than they are today.
Yes, because as we all know if the wild west was known for anything it was accurate and thorough documentation of shootings.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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- You have to be 21 to get a concealed carry license in Texas. 1) Grades are handed out electronically, so there's no need to stand in from of 30 teenage boys.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
- You have to be 21 to get a concealed carry license in Texas.
Doesn't make it so much different.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
- Grades are handed out electronically, so there's no need to stand in from of 30 teenage boys.
I suppose the teacher has still go to come to the school physically at some point.
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I completely agree; there is no excuse for limiting this to state universities.
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> law will discourage students from attending universities This seems like bullshit. Do guns discourage people from living in the US? Or going anywhere public?
Yes, every time someone is shot. :sigh: I stand behind the right to possess arms, I don't think carrying them is an answer to anything. I don't want to own any.
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Actually, Texas has the lowest home invasions. Florida USED to have a home invasion problem. Changing the laws to the castle doctrine had a near immediate impact. My family lives near Detroit. The Chief of Police was almost carjacked. His advice to home owners, protect yourselves, we will not send a car after 5pm due to budget cuts. As news reports of criminals getting shot went up, break ins went down. Here is the great part. We will see. The outlaws are not going to follow the law. Also, they probably have to be licensed, which means trained, and informed. I don't fear the guy with 100 nukes. I fear the guy who will do anything to get 1. If an active shooter showed up in your class room. And you could choose between a classroom with a few armed students (concealed), or one with nobody carrying... Which would you prefer to be in? I know my choice. When I taught on a college campus, I had to leave mine in the car. My class finished about 10:30pm, and sometimes I stayed with students until 11:30 answering questions. So I was walking out to a distant lot, in the dark, with nothing on me. I felt even worse for the ladies who were teaching.
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KarstenK wrote:
So where is a gun, there will be shooting
There have been guns in my house for over 40 years, and there hasn't been a single shooting there. Your generalization sucks big hairy donkey testicles.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Wow. You really are a Texan, if someone expresses a contrary view to your opinion/feelings, they are either stupid or some other personal attack takes place. Why is it you can't mount a cogent logical argument for your side of the discussion? Grow the f**k up. You've had 40+ years to come up with a good argument, show it. I've read and respected many many of your posts, and know you're capable of much better, but on this subject you seem to have devolved.
