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    Sander Rossel
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    HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

    Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

    Regards, Sander

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

      Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      Vincent Maverick Durano
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      Welcome to the WEB world! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: And ohh, you forgot the JavaScript thing ;P

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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        Sander, quit whining and learn web development. :sigh:

        The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          Dave Kreskowiak
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          You actually said too much. You could have stopped at just "IE8", or even "IE", and we all would have known your plight.

          A guide to posting questions on CodeProject

          Click this: Asking questions is a skill. Seriously, do it.
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          • V Vincent Maverick Durano

            Welcome to the WEB world! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: And ohh, you forgot the JavaScript thing ;P

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            Sander Rossel
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            JavaScript is a very nice and clean language full of features that are widely supported... Compared to HTML and CSS X| Ok, it's all bad, but my current pain is with HTML and CSS :)

            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

              Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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              Come on! You are doing it for less then a year!!! I do web for almost 20 years - try IE6 or Netscape Navigator and you will find IE8 a nice guy :laugh:

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

              "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                Sander, quit whining and learn web development. :sigh:

                The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

                Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  Come on! You are doing it for less then a year!!! I do web for almost 20 years - try IE6 or Netscape Navigator and you will find IE8 a nice guy :laugh:

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                  You are doing it for less then a year

                  Little longer than that. And I miss the good old WinForm days. WinForms, for UI development that just works :)

                  Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                    You actually said too much. You could have stopped at just "IE8", or even "IE", and we all would have known your plight.

                    A guide to posting questions on CodeProject

                    Click this: Asking questions is a skill. Seriously, do it.
                    Dave Kreskowiak

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                    True :laugh:

                    Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

                      Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                      I can't see your problem - it is like you were saying you can't paint the wall with a hammer :laugh:

                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

                        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

                        What about.... IE6? ;P Just asking! :laugh:

                        A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          JavaScript is a very nice and clean language full of features that are widely supported... Compared to HTML and CSS X| Ok, it's all bad, but my current pain is with HTML and CSS :)

                          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          JavaScript is a very nice and clean language full of features that are widely supported...

                          Yes. In Mordor.

                          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                          This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                          "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            JavaScript is a very nice and clean language full of features that are widely supported... Compared to HTML and CSS X| Ok, it's all bad, but my current pain is with HTML and CSS :)

                            Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            Vincent Maverick Durano
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                            Agreed and that's what make us different. Every web developer will surely experience that, and I feel your pain. :)

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

                              Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                              Regards, Sander

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                              Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan
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                              Next time, pay very close attention to my signature.

                              Quote:

                              The sh*t I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem

                              I wrote that when I was a web developer. Now, I am a happy man. :laugh:

                              The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                You actually said too much. You could have stopped at just "IE8", or even "IE", and we all would have known your plight.

                                A guide to posting questions on CodeProject

                                Click this: Asking questions is a skill. Seriously, do it.
                                Dave Kreskowiak

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                                Vincent Maverick Durano
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                                Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                You actually said too much. You could have stopped at just "IE8", or even "IE", and we all would have known your plight.

                                LMAO! Very well said! But wait.. IE6 was worst :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                                  Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

                                  What about.... IE6? ;P Just asking! :laugh:

                                  A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                                  Vincent Maverick Durano
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                                  Super Lloyd wrote:

                                  What about.... IE6? ;-P

                                  That's the worst web browser ever made since human existed. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

                                    Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                    Regards, Sander

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                                    Chris C B
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                                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                                    The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything.

                                    Excuseme, but you forgot the most salient point - if you can get it to work in just one browser, you can guarantee it won't work in any other. I quit web development just before the death of classic ASP, and have been a happy man ever since. I even write in VB.net, rather than go back to web stuff. :-O :laugh:

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      Learn HTML: it's like XML, but with some pre-defined elements such as p, ul, ol, li, input, etc. Learn CSS: # for id's, . for classes, all the other selectors you look up if you ever need them. Congrats, you now know the basics. The next step will be to actually use it and find out that everything does not work as you'd expect :sigh: horizontal/vertical-alignment? Never works. width? Only works when the moon and stars are aligned every 1000 years. line-height? Only on uhhh... That one element... You know? margin? Works when the width of the height is the size of the alignment of the parents child's parent width height size. float? For when you really want to mess up everything. I could go on, but there's only one conclusion I can make. HTML/CSS is the worst piece of crap 'technology' that's currently known to men (followed closely by Crystal Reports). It's not about learning it, because the idea is simple. It's about using it a lot, finding out all the quirks and inconsistencies, remembering them, and then knowing how to solve something the next time (but you probably forgot already and need to try out different combinations again). That's the true nature of HTML/CSS :sigh:

                                      Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                      Regards, Sander

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                                      Foothill
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                                      Preach, brother. Personally, I can't figure out why they decided to use text to transmit web data instead of raw binary. Both would have to be parsed to be displayed anyway. While text may be readable, it requires 5X+ the bandwidth. Nowadays, when you visit most websites you get mabey 5KB of actual content and 350KB of pure B.S. (ads, scripts, etc...) that have to be pulled down from 30 different other websites.

                                      if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        HTML and CSS/LESS :mad: Oh, and IE8 :mad: :mad: :mad: Need I say more? :(( :sigh:

                                        Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                        Regards, Sander

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                                        This cup is very appropriate: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41n43bgurLL.jpg[^]

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                                          This cup is very appropriate: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41n43bgurLL.jpg[^]

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                                          :thumbsup: :laugh:

                                          Read my (free) ebook Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly. Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles here on CodeProject.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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