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How much front-end does a back-end dev need to know?

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    TheOnlyRealTodd
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    Clearly, I love back-end more than front-end; making things work properly, efficiently, and securely is more much satisfying to me than making things look good. However, I appreciate a good-looking website (and anything good looking for that matter) by all means. I also find myself going on hours-long tangents when working on solo projects to try and get my front-end looking halfway decent, because I don't want to put ugly crap in my portfolio, plus it just bothers my eyes lol. But front-end really is a beast and it is something that I theoretically could spend all my time on. I have high standards and I don't want to stop until I have a website that looks like http://www.erated.co/ but at the same time, I often feel distracted and not as fulfilled when I am spending hours or even days learning things like advanced CSS3 or Photoshop when I could be (and I feel like I [i]should be[/i] improving my skills with data modeling, LINQ, MVC, and stuff of this nature. Plus, at the end of the day, nobody actually sees a backend so I could spend 6 months on some super cool architecture and if it looks ugly, nobody, including my own family members could care less. That's the kicker lol.

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      Clearly, I love back-end more than front-end; making things work properly, efficiently, and securely is more much satisfying to me than making things look good. However, I appreciate a good-looking website (and anything good looking for that matter) by all means. I also find myself going on hours-long tangents when working on solo projects to try and get my front-end looking halfway decent, because I don't want to put ugly crap in my portfolio, plus it just bothers my eyes lol. But front-end really is a beast and it is something that I theoretically could spend all my time on. I have high standards and I don't want to stop until I have a website that looks like http://www.erated.co/ but at the same time, I often feel distracted and not as fulfilled when I am spending hours or even days learning things like advanced CSS3 or Photoshop when I could be (and I feel like I [i]should be[/i] improving my skills with data modeling, LINQ, MVC, and stuff of this nature. Plus, at the end of the day, nobody actually sees a backend so I could spend 6 months on some super cool architecture and if it looks ugly, nobody, including my own family members could care less. That's the kicker lol.

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      Mladen Jankovic
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      TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

      at the end of the day, nobody actually sees a backend

      So write an article about it. If you want impress fellow backend developers, that's the way to go, not with some shiny web page.

      TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

      my own family members could care less

      They won't care anyway, so why bother.

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        Clearly, I love back-end more than front-end; making things work properly, efficiently, and securely is more much satisfying to me than making things look good. However, I appreciate a good-looking website (and anything good looking for that matter) by all means. I also find myself going on hours-long tangents when working on solo projects to try and get my front-end looking halfway decent, because I don't want to put ugly crap in my portfolio, plus it just bothers my eyes lol. But front-end really is a beast and it is something that I theoretically could spend all my time on. I have high standards and I don't want to stop until I have a website that looks like http://www.erated.co/ but at the same time, I often feel distracted and not as fulfilled when I am spending hours or even days learning things like advanced CSS3 or Photoshop when I could be (and I feel like I [i]should be[/i] improving my skills with data modeling, LINQ, MVC, and stuff of this nature. Plus, at the end of the day, nobody actually sees a backend so I could spend 6 months on some super cool architecture and if it looks ugly, nobody, including my own family members could care less. That's the kicker lol.

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        DaveAuld
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        TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

        I love back-end more than front-end;

        I thought talk like that was reserved for the soapbox..... :rolleyes:

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          TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

          I love back-end more than front-end;

          I thought talk like that was reserved for the soapbox..... :rolleyes:

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          :~ X|

          #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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            Clearly, I love back-end more than front-end; making things work properly, efficiently, and securely is more much satisfying to me than making things look good. However, I appreciate a good-looking website (and anything good looking for that matter) by all means. I also find myself going on hours-long tangents when working on solo projects to try and get my front-end looking halfway decent, because I don't want to put ugly crap in my portfolio, plus it just bothers my eyes lol. But front-end really is a beast and it is something that I theoretically could spend all my time on. I have high standards and I don't want to stop until I have a website that looks like http://www.erated.co/ but at the same time, I often feel distracted and not as fulfilled when I am spending hours or even days learning things like advanced CSS3 or Photoshop when I could be (and I feel like I [i]should be[/i] improving my skills with data modeling, LINQ, MVC, and stuff of this nature. Plus, at the end of the day, nobody actually sees a backend so I could spend 6 months on some super cool architecture and if it looks ugly, nobody, including my own family members could care less. That's the kicker lol.

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            TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

            http://www.erated.com

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            Beta coming May 2015

            Errr.... I think you need to get on things...

            #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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              TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

              http://www.erated.com

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              Beta coming May 2015

              Errr.... I think you need to get on things...

              #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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              My error! The site is actually: http://www.erated.co/ Pretty close name though lol.

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                Clearly, I love back-end more than front-end; making things work properly, efficiently, and securely is more much satisfying to me than making things look good. However, I appreciate a good-looking website (and anything good looking for that matter) by all means. I also find myself going on hours-long tangents when working on solo projects to try and get my front-end looking halfway decent, because I don't want to put ugly crap in my portfolio, plus it just bothers my eyes lol. But front-end really is a beast and it is something that I theoretically could spend all my time on. I have high standards and I don't want to stop until I have a website that looks like http://www.erated.co/ but at the same time, I often feel distracted and not as fulfilled when I am spending hours or even days learning things like advanced CSS3 or Photoshop when I could be (and I feel like I [i]should be[/i] improving my skills with data modeling, LINQ, MVC, and stuff of this nature. Plus, at the end of the day, nobody actually sees a backend so I could spend 6 months on some super cool architecture and if it looks ugly, nobody, including my own family members could care less. That's the kicker lol.

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                TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

                Clearly, I love back-end more than front-end;

                Yeah, I'm an ass man myself.

                TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

                I don't want to stop until I have a website that looks like http://www.erated.co/

                I literally rolled my eyes when I saw that site. That template is used on about 90% of sites that came out this year. It's everywhere and I'm sick of seeing it, it's just cliché now. If you want a good looking site but don't have the skills to do it then look at template sites like Template Monster (I think), and there are many others. You can simply buy a template off the shelf for not much money then all you need to do is implement it. You'll easily find a template like erated. In fact, you'd probably struggle to find a template that isn't like erated.

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                  Clearly, I love back-end more than front-end; making things work properly, efficiently, and securely is more much satisfying to me than making things look good. However, I appreciate a good-looking website (and anything good looking for that matter) by all means. I also find myself going on hours-long tangents when working on solo projects to try and get my front-end looking halfway decent, because I don't want to put ugly crap in my portfolio, plus it just bothers my eyes lol. But front-end really is a beast and it is something that I theoretically could spend all my time on. I have high standards and I don't want to stop until I have a website that looks like http://www.erated.co/ but at the same time, I often feel distracted and not as fulfilled when I am spending hours or even days learning things like advanced CSS3 or Photoshop when I could be (and I feel like I [i]should be[/i] improving my skills with data modeling, LINQ, MVC, and stuff of this nature. Plus, at the end of the day, nobody actually sees a backend so I could spend 6 months on some super cool architecture and if it looks ugly, nobody, including my own family members could care less. That's the kicker lol.

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                  TheOnlyRealTodd wrote:

                  Clearly, I love back-end more than front-end;

                  Ewww, TMI. ;P

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