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    Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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      Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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      nope :)

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        Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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        Just doing things in general. It's a continuous background process of conditionals with branching. Even fixing (replacing) a water line from sink-to-fridge, under house in 18" sand-floored crawl space strewn with obstacles - a nearly 30 foot crawl in this to the closer of the two kitchen access holes. It was to be one trip. All steps planned, even to the taping of the tube pushed through the floor on startup (tape tip to keep out sand) and fluorescent makings on wire hanger stuck through floor on push-up side (so 1/4" hole could be found). Tools, forehead light, extra batteries: really, just like user-proofing a some code.
        Similar for most tasks - not quite a conscious effort as it's what we do.

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          Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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          My situation is a almost same... I was good as kid with chess and didn't lost it even didn't played a single game in almost 20 years... Probably the 'brain exercise' was good to me too...

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            Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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            Wow! I've just realized they removed Chess from Windows! Shows how much I play computer games! :laugh:

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              Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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              I always hated chess. There's really nothing to it. It's a stupid game for people who enjoy memorising 30,000 moves from other games -- or "gambits", to use the snooty word -- which, to me, doesn't make it a game. It's the wine connoisseur of games; all mouth and trousers. Scrabble can be as bad, in the wrong company, but at least it can be fun -- which is kinda the point of games.

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                Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                I learnt to play chess at a young age but never fell in love with it. I am a competent if somewhat dull player. However, I do agree that the longer I have been programming the more I see the world through very different eyes than those of my younger self. Perhaps a function of age, I'm not sure. I certainly feel smarter than I was then (I know some who would disagree :-))

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me.

                  Or dealing with managers. But then again, that might be more like poker. ;) Marc

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                    Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                    A couple years ago my son (10 at the time) asked how chess was played. I had never played though I knew how. We setup the board and played. I won handily. He kept asking to play. Within a month I could barely beat him and rarely did. Within two months we had to quit playing because I could simply NEVER win. I've programmed for 12+ years and am an inactive member of Mensa. Never considered myself stupid (unless car engines were involved), but he sure made me feel that way. Tl;dr: Nope, programming hasn't helped my chess game. It did however allow me to afford a personal instructor for my son to nurture him and his ability.

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                      A couple years ago my son (10 at the time) asked how chess was played. I had never played though I knew how. We setup the board and played. I won handily. He kept asking to play. Within a month I could barely beat him and rarely did. Within two months we had to quit playing because I could simply NEVER win. I've programmed for 12+ years and am an inactive member of Mensa. Never considered myself stupid (unless car engines were involved), but he sure made me feel that way. Tl;dr: Nope, programming hasn't helped my chess game. It did however allow me to afford a personal instructor for my son to nurture him and his ability.

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                      gardnerp wrote:

                      Within two months we had to quit playing because I could simply NEVER win.

                      So you never considered entering the competition for Dad of the Year?

                      gardnerp wrote:

                      an inactive member of Mensa

                      It's the ones who are active who worry me: "Ooh, I'm a genius because I spend my very waking hour doing silly little puzzles in my mother's basement!" Two weeks of practicing silly little puzzles, and you achieve Grand Poombah status in mensa.

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                        Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                        After a few years of playing (including an incident where I beat a kid during our time at high school who went on to become a British Chess Champion. He resigned saying, "I know where you are going with this" which is extraordinary since I didn't know where I was going!) I ended up with a decent rating of 1800+ and took part in an international tournament in Cannes (in the beautiful South of France). I was a member of a two-man team and we both had conclusive results from our six matches each. He (a master level player) won all six... and I lost all six! I haven't played since! :sigh: Stupid, pointless game!

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                          Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                          I have been breathing chess for 40+ years and programming for 30+ years. Never felt that one was strengthening the other.

                          ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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                            Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                            No, I was fairly good at chess as a teenager and even had an expert rating, but recently my granddaughter annihilated me. But it was only because she wouldn{t let me cheat, otherwise I could have won. I think playing chess is good practice for solving detailed problems. When my children were young, we went to thr library or the chess club on alternating Saturdays, so they all learned to play and so have their children. Whrn theey stop by to visit, the first thing they ask is where is the chess set, then they play each ither all day. very quiet and well behaved kiddos.

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                              I always hated chess. There's really nothing to it. It's a stupid game for people who enjoy memorising 30,000 moves from other games -- or "gambits", to use the snooty word -- which, to me, doesn't make it a game. It's the wine connoisseur of games; all mouth and trousers. Scrabble can be as bad, in the wrong company, but at least it can be fun -- which is kinda the point of games.

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                              Rajesh R Subramanian
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                              To summarize, you don't understand anything about chess. But then admittedly, it's not for everyone. Maybe you'll love pokemon go. I heard it's not particularly strenuous on the brain.

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                                Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                                This thread is getting tedious....perhaps we should call it a knight. Pawn intended.

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                                  I always hated chess. There's really nothing to it. It's a stupid game for people who enjoy memorising 30,000 moves from other games -- or "gambits", to use the snooty word -- which, to me, doesn't make it a game. It's the wine connoisseur of games; all mouth and trousers. Scrabble can be as bad, in the wrong company, but at least it can be fun -- which is kinda the point of games.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                  30,000? Think again... How many chess games are possible? - YouTube[^]

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                                    Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                                    Nope. I can hardly remember my name and surname together. My thought moves around very fast and focuses, if may even call it that, on one thing at a time, but all quickly.

                                    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. - Liber AL vel Legis 1:40, Aleister Crowley

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                                      This thread is getting tedious....perhaps we should call it a knight. Pawn intended.

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                                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                      Mate, your attack is uncalled for.

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                                        Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game... He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager. I won, with a killed rook move. And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me. I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them. Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?

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                                        Cikic Nenad
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                                        If you like playing I invite you to join freechess.org I play it with an android client by Ian Pinto, it is simple an simple app. Since I frequently loose control playing my daughter restricted me from playing till december, so I envy you right now. I am at about 1400 point in blitz mode and the thing I like most is when I loose against players at 1700 points. I have the feeling I will never beat them, they are so good. I think 1700 points is my limit I can win against. What you think is your limit?

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                                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                          To summarize, you don't understand anything about chess. But then admittedly, it's not for everyone. Maybe you'll love pokemon go. I heard it's not particularly strenuous on the brain.

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                                          I was forced to join a chess club by my parents, because my being "the clever one" was a feather in their cap -- ego-stroking is pretty much the main function of chess. I can also ride a horse, but I've never seen one that moves two paces forward and one pace to the side, or a bishop that can only move at funny angles and kills people -- and no queen of any European country has ever, to my knowledge, been a more versatile warrior than her husband. It's petty childish rubbish that isn't even fun.

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