So, if you're manager asked you to use a nickname...
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That's terrible... ...how dare you confuse you're with your! ;P
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
use a nickname....
Tell him to use Obama for his nickname. Seriously, the manager sounds like a chimp.
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jeron1 wrote:
Tell him to use Obama for his nickname. Seriously, the manager sounds like a chimp.
So your response to this post is to throw out racism?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
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Actually it comes down to "depends", for most of us it would be highly offensive however if you are in sales then you take every advantage you can get. And as much as most here may be outraged there is plenty of prejudice and bigotry out there. If a name makes a prospective client uncomfortable then a nom de plume may well be in the sales mans best interest. In which case the sales manager is actually doing a good job.
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The crime is against Federal law - there should be a complaint to HR, but I've found HR's never an advocate of the employee. Time for a paper trail. This "make associations" - it's not new. How many famous Hollywood stars, for generations, had to change their names because they sounded too Jewish. Irish had trouble, too. The manager should be shown the door - and if it's company policy, they should be given the opportunity to meet a federal district attorney and hire lots of lawyers. No one should ever be considered born "the wrong kind" in the USA.
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No one should ever be considered born "the wrong kind" in the USA.
Even better :) But I do know what you're saying.
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jeron1 wrote:
Tell him to use Obama for his nickname. Seriously, the manager sounds like a chimp.
So your response to this post is to throw out racism?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
How the hell did you arrive at that conclusion?
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I knew a guy who was named "Eric Horseshit". His boss asked him to change his name, so he did. Now he's called Harry...
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Slacker007 wrote:
Isn't that against the law? If not, it should be.
I would think so, but I don't know of any laws that address that issue, though of course that is not my area of expertise! Marc
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How about discrimination?
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
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Just tell him you want to use the nickname "Hitler"
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Osama - O'Hanlon. Oh hell. I'll be on a watch list somewhere.
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Don't foul fool yourself Pete, you already are ;P :laugh: [EDIT]fixed typo[/EDIT]
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Don't foul fool yourself Pete, you already are ;P :laugh: [EDIT]fixed typo[/EDIT]
Tom
I'll try not to foul myself. I've managed to avoid that for nigh on 50 years ;)
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
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I'd go for something outrageous or nerdy and force them to accept under threat of a LARGE court trial + youtube videos, letters to newspapers, blog, twitter and FB posts up until ending up straigth to the TV talk shows
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
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Strange, Marc Clifton doesn't sound that islamic to me. But if I were you, I'd change it to something like Masud Al-Cliftani... :laugh:
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do?
People just love to pick on fights... You got a partial statment from a conversation and demonised a person. I understand that in any situation like this there are a lot of truths: - the "perpetrator" - the "victim" - the observers (Fire!!! Burn!!! Kill!!!) - and finally... just finally the truth/reason. Try not to assume everyone is trying to elephant you. From the litle I've understood there's a concern not an order.
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
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Rather than go straight for the lawyers, I would ask for a private meeting with the boss. Politely explain that what has been suggested could be viewed as discriminatory and not unacceptable in this day and age. Say that you are proud of your name and heritage and will not use a nickname, and leave it with him. See what happens - he will likely either quietly back down or will double down on the insult, in which case at that point consider bringing out the lawyers. I would consider having HR (or some other person) present at the meeting, though that would raise the temperature a bit. I appreciate this may be a quintessentially more English way of dealing with such issues...
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I'll try not to foul myself. I've managed to avoid that for nigh on 50 years ;)
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Damned, that's what I get for blind typing before coffee. In my defense: English isn't my native language, but still no excuse ... Fixed it in original post :)
Tom
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Most HR departments would fire that manager on the spot. I'd double down and have everyone else use the nickname Mohammad. (And just say they are honoring Mohammad Ali.) Or Mustafa - you like Lion King. Omar - you like Omar Bradley. Another option: ask the manager to change his name so customers don't associate the rest of you with "shit head."
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...because it sounded "Islamic" and he doesn't want customers to "make associations", what would you do? (Yes, this is actually happening to someone where I work.) Marc
Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
