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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    I think with Java IDE's you'll find most people are quite opinionated about which is better and it is generally the one they are more used to. I have used both Eclipse and Netbeans and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Trying to be objective, I'd choose Netbeans, as I have had mostly positive experiences with it, over Eclipse, which is steaming pile of doggy doo-doos. Hope this helps.

    veni bibi saltavi

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    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

    Trying to be objective, ... Eclipse ... is steaming pile of doggy doo-doos.

    O...Kay. So if you weren't being objective you'd be rude about it? :laugh:

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      I think with Java IDE's you'll find most people are quite opinionated about which is better and it is generally the one they are more used to. I have used both Eclipse and Netbeans and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Trying to be objective, I'd choose Netbeans, as I have had mostly positive experiences with it, over Eclipse, which is steaming pile of doggy doo-doos. Hope this helps.

      veni bibi saltavi

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      I used Eclipse at work and home and found it did everything I needed: never steamed and never looked like cr*p. Tried Netbeans a couple of times but I never felt comfortable with it.

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        I used Eclipse at work and home and found it did everything I needed: never steamed and never looked like cr*p. Tried Netbeans a couple of times but I never felt comfortable with it.

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        Exactly. They both work well, or well work, but, to be serious for a moment, I don't think it is really an easy thing to switch between the two as they behave very differently.

        veni bibi saltavi

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        • K kiLLe_512

          Good morning guys! I don't post that often over here, but I thought I might give it a try with the following situation I currently find myself in. With the recent cockups MS has been making (NSA, no VoIP support on mobile SDK, End User License agreement questionability etc.), I have decided to take a stab at Ubuntu/Linux. Now I am not an expert on using that OS, but I find myself comfortably using it for the most part and for the instances where I do get stuck, Google usually has my back. I am a 9 years+ experienced .Net developer in C# with some SQL background (for the most part). I want to broaden my horizons a bit and want to start coding some more in C, C++ and maybe a little Java and I think the best way to learn might be to start contributing to some open source projects using Linux as my dev environment, but I have no idea where to start. I have installed Git, Android Studio, VSCode, compiled and executed a basic .Net Core console app, I did a helloworld with C and gcc, but I really want to get to the more gritty C stuff and start learning how the olden gray-bearded ones did/do things. My question(s) is/are this: Is Eclipse still a viable IDE to use, or do you have any better suggestions? What tips do you guys have for transitioning from VS2015 C# .Net to Linux C development? Do you have any open source project recommendations that I might look at as I embark on this new, strange journey? Is the earth in fact flat? I'm really excited, but I am completely lost. :-D Any suggestions would be welcome.

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          Eclipse is a great IDE, but has a learning curve, as do all of them. Going from C#.NET back to C or C++ is not as easy as the other way round. I would suggest getting some books or looking at online tutorials such as Reliable Software - Creators of the distributed version control system, Code Co-op[^]. Also, you will probably get better guidance on one of the Linux specific forums, CodeProject tends to be much more Windows focussed.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Exactly. They both work well, or well work, but, to be serious for a moment, I don't think it is really an easy thing to switch between the two as they behave very differently.

            veni bibi saltavi

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            Very true. BTW How is life in Redacted?

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              Eclipse is a great IDE, but has a learning curve, as do all of them. Going from C#.NET back to C or C++ is not as easy as the other way round. I would suggest getting some books or looking at online tutorials such as Reliable Software - Creators of the distributed version control system, Code Co-op[^]. Also, you will probably get better guidance on one of the Linux specific forums, CodeProject tends to be much more Windows focussed.

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              Great response! Do you have any suggestions for a Linux developer forum/community that I might sign up for?

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              • L Lost User

                Very true. BTW How is life in Redacted?

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                Gin less[^]

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                • L Lost User

                  Very true. BTW How is life in Redacted?

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  It's not too bad, so far, but we're still just finding our feet. There is a small problemette in the total lack of BACON but we're surviving; actually a colleague brought us some over at the weekend.

                  veni bibi saltavi

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                  • K kiLLe_512

                    Good morning guys! I don't post that often over here, but I thought I might give it a try with the following situation I currently find myself in. With the recent cockups MS has been making (NSA, no VoIP support on mobile SDK, End User License agreement questionability etc.), I have decided to take a stab at Ubuntu/Linux. Now I am not an expert on using that OS, but I find myself comfortably using it for the most part and for the instances where I do get stuck, Google usually has my back. I am a 9 years+ experienced .Net developer in C# with some SQL background (for the most part). I want to broaden my horizons a bit and want to start coding some more in C, C++ and maybe a little Java and I think the best way to learn might be to start contributing to some open source projects using Linux as my dev environment, but I have no idea where to start. I have installed Git, Android Studio, VSCode, compiled and executed a basic .Net Core console app, I did a helloworld with C and gcc, but I really want to get to the more gritty C stuff and start learning how the olden gray-bearded ones did/do things. My question(s) is/are this: Is Eclipse still a viable IDE to use, or do you have any better suggestions? What tips do you guys have for transitioning from VS2015 C# .Net to Linux C development? Do you have any open source project recommendations that I might look at as I embark on this new, strange journey? Is the earth in fact flat? I'm really excited, but I am completely lost. :-D Any suggestions would be welcome.

                    while(alive) { Code(); Sleep(); Eat(); AllTheOtherNonEssentials(); } throw new ObjectDisposedException();

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                    I'd suggest trying JEdit, before you get bogged down by eclipse or netbeans.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • K kiLLe_512

                      Great response! Do you have any suggestions for a Linux developer forum/community that I might sign up for?

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                      No, but Google will most likely find them.

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        It's not too bad, so far, but we're still just finding our feet. There is a small problemette in the total lack of BACON but we're surviving; actually a colleague brought us some over at the weekend.

                        veni bibi saltavi

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        Is bacon more important than Gin? :omg:

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        • L Lost User

                          No, but Google will most likely find them.

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                          kiLLe_512
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                          Of course. Thanks.

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                          • K kiLLe_512

                            Good morning guys! I don't post that often over here, but I thought I might give it a try with the following situation I currently find myself in. With the recent cockups MS has been making (NSA, no VoIP support on mobile SDK, End User License agreement questionability etc.), I have decided to take a stab at Ubuntu/Linux. Now I am not an expert on using that OS, but I find myself comfortably using it for the most part and for the instances where I do get stuck, Google usually has my back. I am a 9 years+ experienced .Net developer in C# with some SQL background (for the most part). I want to broaden my horizons a bit and want to start coding some more in C, C++ and maybe a little Java and I think the best way to learn might be to start contributing to some open source projects using Linux as my dev environment, but I have no idea where to start. I have installed Git, Android Studio, VSCode, compiled and executed a basic .Net Core console app, I did a helloworld with C and gcc, but I really want to get to the more gritty C stuff and start learning how the olden gray-bearded ones did/do things. My question(s) is/are this: Is Eclipse still a viable IDE to use, or do you have any better suggestions? What tips do you guys have for transitioning from VS2015 C# .Net to Linux C development? Do you have any open source project recommendations that I might look at as I embark on this new, strange journey? Is the earth in fact flat? I'm really excited, but I am completely lost. :-D Any suggestions would be welcome.

                            while(alive) { Code(); Sleep(); Eat(); AllTheOtherNonEssentials(); } throw new ObjectDisposedException();

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                            There is also Code::Blocks, not to mention the vim option, for the fearless people.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Very true. BTW How is life in Redacted?

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                              Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                              Very true. BTW How is life in Redacted?

                              You're allowed to say Nigeria. He's keeping the first million he scams, then he's sharing the rest with us long time regulars.

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                Very true. BTW How is life in Redacted?

                                You're allowed to say Nigeria. He's keeping the first million he scams, then he's sharing the rest with us long time regulars.

                                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                Nagy Vilmos
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                                True, true, but only *after* they've paid the $892 processing fee. See, I don't even round it up, I just want to cover my costs.

                                veni bibi saltavi

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  It's not too bad, so far, but we're still just finding our feet. There is a small problemette in the total lack of BACON but we're surviving; actually a colleague brought us some over at the weekend.

                                  veni bibi saltavi

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                                  Mycroft Holmes
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                                  Surely you have that abomination they call beef bacon in redacted

                                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                    Very true. BTW How is life in Redacted?

                                    You're allowed to say Nigeria. He's keeping the first million he scams, then he's sharing the rest with us long time regulars.

                                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                    Is the division of the spoils by length of CP membership (yay!), or by accumulated points (boo!)? :)

                                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                      Surely you have that abomination they call beef bacon in redacted

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      Nagy Vilmos
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                                      Worse, they sell a turkey based travesty!

                                      veni bibi saltavi

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                                      • K kiLLe_512

                                        Good morning guys! I don't post that often over here, but I thought I might give it a try with the following situation I currently find myself in. With the recent cockups MS has been making (NSA, no VoIP support on mobile SDK, End User License agreement questionability etc.), I have decided to take a stab at Ubuntu/Linux. Now I am not an expert on using that OS, but I find myself comfortably using it for the most part and for the instances where I do get stuck, Google usually has my back. I am a 9 years+ experienced .Net developer in C# with some SQL background (for the most part). I want to broaden my horizons a bit and want to start coding some more in C, C++ and maybe a little Java and I think the best way to learn might be to start contributing to some open source projects using Linux as my dev environment, but I have no idea where to start. I have installed Git, Android Studio, VSCode, compiled and executed a basic .Net Core console app, I did a helloworld with C and gcc, but I really want to get to the more gritty C stuff and start learning how the olden gray-bearded ones did/do things. My question(s) is/are this: Is Eclipse still a viable IDE to use, or do you have any better suggestions? What tips do you guys have for transitioning from VS2015 C# .Net to Linux C development? Do you have any open source project recommendations that I might look at as I embark on this new, strange journey? Is the earth in fact flat? I'm really excited, but I am completely lost. :-D Any suggestions would be welcome.

                                        while(alive) { Code(); Sleep(); Eat(); AllTheOtherNonEssentials(); } throw new ObjectDisposedException();

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                                        Surprised no one's mentioned them yet, but Jetbrains IDE's are available for Linux, so you can get IntelliJ Community for free. I would also recommend the rather cheap Webstorm if you decide to do any Javascript/Node development. JB is also working on a C# IDE, so keep your eyes peeled for that.

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                                        • K kiLLe_512

                                          Good morning guys! I don't post that often over here, but I thought I might give it a try with the following situation I currently find myself in. With the recent cockups MS has been making (NSA, no VoIP support on mobile SDK, End User License agreement questionability etc.), I have decided to take a stab at Ubuntu/Linux. Now I am not an expert on using that OS, but I find myself comfortably using it for the most part and for the instances where I do get stuck, Google usually has my back. I am a 9 years+ experienced .Net developer in C# with some SQL background (for the most part). I want to broaden my horizons a bit and want to start coding some more in C, C++ and maybe a little Java and I think the best way to learn might be to start contributing to some open source projects using Linux as my dev environment, but I have no idea where to start. I have installed Git, Android Studio, VSCode, compiled and executed a basic .Net Core console app, I did a helloworld with C and gcc, but I really want to get to the more gritty C stuff and start learning how the olden gray-bearded ones did/do things. My question(s) is/are this: Is Eclipse still a viable IDE to use, or do you have any better suggestions? What tips do you guys have for transitioning from VS2015 C# .Net to Linux C development? Do you have any open source project recommendations that I might look at as I embark on this new, strange journey? Is the earth in fact flat? I'm really excited, but I am completely lost. :-D Any suggestions would be welcome.

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                                          Just pick an open source project that you use/are interested in and go for it. Start by looking at issues in their tracker and maybe help out in an organizational manner until you start to understand the project better. I haven't seen too much in Java out there, and my preferences would probably be to stay away from Java anyway. VSCode is not too bad for c/c++, or use Atom. They both work for many different languages. :laugh: If you really want to get into Linux development, then you MUST choose either EMACS or vim for your editor. (vim is the correct choice)

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