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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Chris Maunder wrote:

    Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats?

    Only in Europe, and everyone at the time slammed the Europeans for it, calling them all the names under the sun for wanting to protect their citizens against the slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations. It's nice to see the cows come home to roost.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    W Balboos GHB
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    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations.

    Like VW's emissions frolic?

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      jeffery c
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      It's sad when I have to use the open with internet explorer option to get my website to display correctly. However, edge is improving especially after the last two feature updates I have noticed improvements. I still slap Microsoft by using edge for Bing points and then an hour later switch to IE mode for a website that refuses to load. Microsoft's probably like: "freeloader!" By now.

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        piyush_singh
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        I use both, Chrome and FireFox for development and testing. I do need at least one browser where no development is going on and which is why I use Edge. I know, that I can always find my emails, drives, and other company related stuffs over there while chrome and firefox usually remain over-tabified! :-D Definitely, I am not gonna use it for development, but as a user, I have not found any such issues with it.

        Piyush K Singh

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        • C Chris Maunder

          Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          AndrewDavie
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          It lost me at the start when it didn't have an ad-blocker. I'll unblock for sites that I reasonably trust not to serve me up malware or overly intrusive ads. Browsing without one on by default feels like sex without a condom - only with those I trust and have a long relationship with and will risk a pregnancy with. (Cue list of similarities between *ware and pregnancy.)

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Every now and again I wind up Edge and that reminds why I dislike it so much compared to IE or Chrome.

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            Martin Plamondon
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            Edge is still missing one essential option (Chrome is also missing it by the way!): Option to automatically switch to a new tab when I right-click --> Open in new tab. Both IE and Firefox have that option, not Edge, not Chrome. I hate it when I see a new tab open and not being brought to it automatically... why the hell did I open it if I didn't want to go there?

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            • B Brady Kelly

              I quite like Edge as an alternative when Chrome goes belly-up on me while debugging, or something like that. I have no complaints with it as a browser.

              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. - Liber AL vel Legis 1:40, Aleister Crowley

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              Chris Maunder
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              It's not the browser that bugs me. It's the lack of respect for my settings. Deliberately resetting only settings that relate to your choice of browser is lame.

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              • W W Balboos GHB

                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations.

                Like VW's emissions frolic?

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Mark_Wallace
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                They're German.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  They're German.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  W Balboos GHB
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                  To me:   slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations There's an old saying "you can't smell your own".

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    loctrice
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                    When I need to do IE/Edge testing I have to fire up my windows vm. :D I remember something about having to find IE in the first place (I need both) .

                    Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      To me:   slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations There's an old saying "you can't smell your own".

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      Didn't you notice the word "foreign", tucked quietly away in the clause? What does that word tell you that I'm talking about? If I were talking about the money-grubbing corporation at the end of my street, I would have used the words "the money-grubbing corporation at the end of my street".

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        Didn't you notice the word "foreign", tucked quietly away in the clause? What does that word tell you that I'm talking about? If I were talking about the money-grubbing corporation at the end of my street, I would have used the words "the money-grubbing corporation at the end of my street".

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        W Balboos GHB
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                        Well foreign depends upon where you live, no? So - taking the context from your post (q.v.)[^] And money grubbing horrendous practices are basically a defect in capitalism (in its search for profits) and socialism (in it's take-it-or-leave-it quality model). Not that either has to behave that way - they just always do. The us-and-them reminds of a currently active political candidate's strategy - but rallying Europe against the US is always popular for European politicians. Works here, too. Consider Takata airbags[^].   A model for which all industry can strive!

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          It's not the browser that bugs me. It's the lack of respect for my settings. Deliberately resetting only settings that relate to your choice of browser is lame.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          Most true. My system happily sticks fast to Chrome, I never see anything about Edge at all, unless I explicitly open Edge.

                          Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. - Liber AL vel Legis 1:40, Aleister Crowley

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                            cheers Chris Maunder

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                            JoshYates1980
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                            I'm enjoying my $5 Amazon gift cards every month. I spend about 5 minutes of each day using Edge; click.click.click....click, get my points and then close the browser, open up Chrome for the rest of the day.

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                              Edge is still missing one essential option (Chrome is also missing it by the way!): Option to automatically switch to a new tab when I right-click --> Open in new tab. Both IE and Firefox have that option, not Edge, not Chrome. I hate it when I see a new tab open and not being brought to it automatically... why the hell did I open it if I didn't want to go there?

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                              Mark Miller
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                              Try holding Ctrl+Shift when you click a link. Only workaround I know of. Cheers!

                              Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                You took my line-ish. I was gonna say "that's what it's like living on the edge". But no, I can't say that now. :sigh:

                                Jeremy Falcon

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                                Nelek
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                                No worries... you can still grab your coat if you want ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Well foreign depends upon where you live, no? So - taking the context from your post (q.v.)[^] And money grubbing horrendous practices are basically a defect in capitalism (in its search for profits) and socialism (in it's take-it-or-leave-it quality model). Not that either has to behave that way - they just always do. The us-and-them reminds of a currently active political candidate's strategy - but rallying Europe against the US is always popular for European politicians. Works here, too. Consider Takata airbags[^].   A model for which all industry can strive!

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  I'm not rallying anyone; I am simply being accurate with my words and providing a highly pertinent point -- that I have little recourse to law over the actions of FOREIGN corporations.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    No worries... you can still grab your coat if you want ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    Yay!

                                    Jeremy Falcon

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                                    • M Mark_Wallace

                                      I'm not rallying anyone; I am simply being accurate with my words and providing a highly pertinent point -- that I have little recourse to law over the actions of FOREIGN corporations.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Charles Programmer
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                                      Hell, here in the US we have the same problem with DOMESTIC corporations. And there's the problem of our domestic corporations "moving headquarters" to foreign countries to cheat the citizens out of taxes owed, but I digress.

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Bob1000
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                                        Not sure why you don't want to use edge, it crash just as much as IE! If nothing else Microsoft is consistent......

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          code_junkie
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                                          The two big reasons I will not use Edge: 1) Security settings are non-existent. In IE I add offensive advertisement sources (like *.googlesyndication.com) to Restricted Sites, it's a built in ad blocker. 2) Every version of IE has used the "star" symbol as the favorites button, even edge mobile does this. Click the "star" in Edge to see your favorites and a "Bookmarks" window pops up... WTF is a "Bookmark"?!?! It's like the developers have never used the browser that they are trying to replace (IE)... :doh:

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