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  • W W Balboos GHB

    To me:   slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations There's an old saying "you can't smell your own".

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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    Mark_Wallace
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    Didn't you notice the word "foreign", tucked quietly away in the clause? What does that word tell you that I'm talking about? If I were talking about the money-grubbing corporation at the end of my street, I would have used the words "the money-grubbing corporation at the end of my street".

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Didn't you notice the word "foreign", tucked quietly away in the clause? What does that word tell you that I'm talking about? If I were talking about the money-grubbing corporation at the end of my street, I would have used the words "the money-grubbing corporation at the end of my street".

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      W Balboos GHB
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      Well foreign depends upon where you live, no? So - taking the context from your post (q.v.)[^] And money grubbing horrendous practices are basically a defect in capitalism (in its search for profits) and socialism (in it's take-it-or-leave-it quality model). Not that either has to behave that way - they just always do. The us-and-them reminds of a currently active political candidate's strategy - but rallying Europe against the US is always popular for European politicians. Works here, too. Consider Takata airbags[^].   A model for which all industry can strive!

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      • C Chris Maunder

        It's not the browser that bugs me. It's the lack of respect for my settings. Deliberately resetting only settings that relate to your choice of browser is lame.

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        Brady Kelly
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        Most true. My system happily sticks fast to Chrome, I never see anything about Edge at all, unless I explicitly open Edge.

        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. - Liber AL vel Legis 1:40, Aleister Crowley

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        • C Chris Maunder

          Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          JoshYates1980
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          I'm enjoying my $5 Amazon gift cards every month. I spend about 5 minutes of each day using Edge; click.click.click....click, get my points and then close the browser, open up Chrome for the rest of the day.

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          • M Martin Plamondon

            Edge is still missing one essential option (Chrome is also missing it by the way!): Option to automatically switch to a new tab when I right-click --> Open in new tab. Both IE and Firefox have that option, not Edge, not Chrome. I hate it when I see a new tab open and not being brought to it automatically... why the hell did I open it if I didn't want to go there?

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            Mark Miller
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            Try holding Ctrl+Shift when you click a link. Only workaround I know of. Cheers!

            Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              You took my line-ish. I was gonna say "that's what it's like living on the edge". But no, I can't say that now. :sigh:

              Jeremy Falcon

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              Nelek
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              No worries... you can still grab your coat if you want ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              • W W Balboos GHB

                Well foreign depends upon where you live, no? So - taking the context from your post (q.v.)[^] And money grubbing horrendous practices are basically a defect in capitalism (in its search for profits) and socialism (in it's take-it-or-leave-it quality model). Not that either has to behave that way - they just always do. The us-and-them reminds of a currently active political candidate's strategy - but rallying Europe against the US is always popular for European politicians. Works here, too. Consider Takata airbags[^].   A model for which all industry can strive!

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Mark_Wallace
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                I'm not rallying anyone; I am simply being accurate with my words and providing a highly pertinent point -- that I have little recourse to law over the actions of FOREIGN corporations.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • N Nelek

                  No worries... you can still grab your coat if you want ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  Yay!

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    I'm not rallying anyone; I am simply being accurate with my words and providing a highly pertinent point -- that I have little recourse to law over the actions of FOREIGN corporations.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Charles Programmer
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                    Hell, here in the US we have the same problem with DOMESTIC corporations. And there's the problem of our domestic corporations "moving headquarters" to foreign countries to cheat the citizens out of taxes owed, but I digress.

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Bob1000
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                      Not sure why you don't want to use edge, it crash just as much as IE! If nothing else Microsoft is consistent......

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        code_junkie
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                        The two big reasons I will not use Edge: 1) Security settings are non-existent. In IE I add offensive advertisement sources (like *.googlesyndication.com) to Restricted Sites, it's a built in ad blocker. 2) Every version of IE has used the "star" symbol as the favorites button, even edge mobile does this. Click the "star" in Edge to see your favorites and a "Bookmarks" window pops up... WTF is a "Bookmark"?!?! It's like the developers have never used the browser that they are trying to replace (IE)... :doh:

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats?

                          Only in Europe, and everyone at the time slammed the Europeans for it, calling them all the names under the sun for wanting to protect their citizens against the slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations. It's nice to see the cows come home to roost.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          AAC Tech
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                          Funny I only remember people saying "Thank God for the Europeans!"

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                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats?

                            Only in Europe, and everyone at the time slammed the Europeans for it, calling them all the names under the sun for wanting to protect their citizens against the slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations. It's nice to see the cows come home to roost.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            AAC Tech
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                            Mark_Wallace wrote:

                            Only in Europe, and everyone at the time slammed the Europeans for it, calling them all the names under the sun for wanting to protect their citizens against the slimy, money-grubbing actions of greedy, foreign corporations.

                            Funny I only remember people saying "Thank God for Europe!"

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              I thought being Microsofts b**** was part of the EULA for Windows 10? Not that that excuses this sort of behavior on their part, but it's forced updates, dodgy practices, and 's*** like this' that are (still) the #1, #2, and #3 reasons that 'no, I really, really do NOT want Windows 10'.

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                                Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                obermd
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                                For those of us who don't trust Google, Chrome is being forced on us just as aggressively.

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                                  For those of us who don't trust Google, Chrome is being forced on us just as aggressively.

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                                  Herbie Mountjoy
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                                  I use Edge all the time. My only grump with it is that it doesn't allow me to choose where downloads are saved. It's a nuisance having to move files from the Downloads folder to where I really wanted them to go.

                                  We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                                  • W W Balboos GHB

                                    Well foreign depends upon where you live, no? So - taking the context from your post (q.v.)[^] And money grubbing horrendous practices are basically a defect in capitalism (in its search for profits) and socialism (in it's take-it-or-leave-it quality model). Not that either has to behave that way - they just always do. The us-and-them reminds of a currently active political candidate's strategy - but rallying Europe against the US is always popular for European politicians. Works here, too. Consider Takata airbags[^].   A model for which all industry can strive!

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    James Lonero
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                                    Money grubbing is business and economics at its finest. Given a small supply or high demand, the company can up its price to make more money. The main focus of business is to increase the stockholder's capital in the company. Look at the drug company selling Epipens. It is ugly, the company is making huge profits, but the customers need the medication. And, the company's product is protected by patents. Yes it does make me sick to see such blatant greed and disregard for your fellow human being. Capitalism does work best in a mutually cooperative environment rather than a spy-vs-spy world. Maybe we can add restrictions to patents to where the holder cannot sell for more than 5% of some set value.

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                                    • J JoshYates1980

                                      I'm enjoying my $5 Amazon gift cards every month. I spend about 5 minutes of each day using Edge; click.click.click....click, get my points and then close the browser, open up Chrome for the rest of the day.

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                                      enhzflep
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                                      Wait, What!? You're using Edge for about 100 minutes a month for a $5 gift-card? You floozy you!

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        Every update it seems that my preferences for whether I want Edge in the quick launch (no), Edge pinned to the taskbar (No thanks) and my default browser (Chrome) get reset to "YES! I love Edge and want it everywhere!". Constantly. Didn't Microsoft get shamrocked a few years ago for something to do with ramming a certain browser down people's throats? At least it's good to see Microsoft have recovered, dusted themselves off, and are back in the game.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Lost User
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                                        what's edge? Sadly is yet another 'good' thing I miss out on by running a proper OS... Not!

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                                          Wait, What!? You're using Edge for about 100 minutes a month for a $5 gift-card? You floozy you!

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                                          JoshYates1980
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                                          Yes, for a few years now. :-\

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