I hate Microsoft (well today anyway)
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Herbie Mountjoy wrote:
I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled
What ? Since when does the computer decide when a restart has to be done ?
I've tried W10, but not long enough to know about update issues. However, I did run Windows 8 for 2 years+ and hated it, mostly because of various issues around updates - forced restart (occasionally, after forced upgrade) was but one of them. Others were screen-blocking dialogs (really loved them when gaming :mad: ), silently resetting system settings :thumbsdown:, and forcing upgrades at the worst of times, e. g. during comute, without access to power, and battery at 3% X| I will be running 7 for as long as I can, and if Microsoft doesn't fix their upgrade issues by then, I'll go and install another OS. If I want to I can always run Windows 7 in a VM ...
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
This was quite literally the last nail in MS's coffin (for me). Actually I ran into such scenario last year already. Especially also for the fact that I'm in the "awesome" position of living in a country where our internet connection cost is one of the highest in the world - effectively I'm paying (on ISP costs) per month the same as a Win10 pro license (and that for a 20GB hard cap on a 4Mb/s line). So turning off updates was one of the first things I did. But lo and behold ... W10 still has a tendency to turn them back on. Even the idea of "my connection is metered" tends to turn itself off over time. And I keep using up my bandwidth to serve updates to others - no matter how many times I turn off this "feature": Windows 10 silently uses your bandwidth to send updates to others | ZDNet[^] And then what you're describing is what simply made me give up the ghost. I've now only got one "computer" running W10 and that is firewalled at the router so it never sees the internet. Since every time it even sniffs anything like an outside IP address it resets all the settings and does its update thingy, reintroducing all the stuff I've turned off as well as re-installing all the useless bloatware I've previously uninstalled. And always restarting at the most inopportune times - again resetting the restart time settings to its own "idea". Sorry MS ... it used to be just that your OS (and other programs) were buggy enough to bug me in my work. Now you're making me pay for having something which wastes my time constantly. I so wish I could just get away from you, it's getting to the point where I'm starting to think I should move to some other profession where I can in fact find software which does not "require" Windows.
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
Running Windows 10 version 1511, Under `Updates > Advanced Options` I've set it to "Notify to Install" so it doesn't auto install & Schedule a reboot.
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I think you missed out . . . Lose10 doesn't offer that option. The user has to go to system services to shut it off - something only a very small fraction of user can/would know how to do. Otherwise, it's not an option - it will do what it wants when it wants to. However, once you shut the service, you don't get any messages that updates are available at all.
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I may have to do that on one of our machines at our theatre. It's running the sound and video cueing system, and even if an update was applied when there wasn't a performance taking place, it would be a serious problem if the update stopped the machine working, or uninstalled a driver, which is not unheard of. I'd prefer to be able to say that the machine cannot apply updates at any time in a given range of dates (because of course we know the performance schedule up to a year in advance). Currently we turn off the network connection, but it gets turned back on to download sound files from effects sites and so on, and that can trigger an update, and if someone forgets to disable it after downloading something ...
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
I've been getting lots many 'blue screen of death' with win10... Happened to me three times just yesterday. It looks a little bit different than in the past and I think pc shuts down, but still, loose everything you were working on.
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How to Set “Active Hours” So Windows 10 Won’t Restart at a Bad Time[^]
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
Now that is worth knowing.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
This happened with my Win10 phone while I was waiting for my daughter to call. She had a very late night school trip for a competition. Needless to say I was not happy with the timing. Obviously updates need some polish, like aggressive confirmation windows with long timers.
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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How to Set “Active Hours” So Windows 10 Won’t Restart at a Bad Time[^]
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
According to that article: "Windows still won’t restart your computer while you’re actively using it, even outside of active hours ". If that is true, then what is the measure of active? Keyboard/mouse activity or processor or disk IO.
Mark Just another cog in the wheel
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
This kind of crap is why I've been switching my home computers to Linux (well, one to FreeBSD). I want to retain control of my systems. I will be dual booting my main machine though since I use Photoshop (infrequently) and play some Windows only games. I will miss AutoHotKey and robocopy.
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
I have a message this morning that it wants to update... I need to get this thought out before it starts... I think we shou
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
Have you not learned anything yet Joshua! The only winning move is not to play
Buckrogerz
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
How about a Class Action Law Suite. MSFT have abridged their own license agreement (Active Hours) and for a small company, the Windows 10 Anniversary update has cost us about $20K in lost man hours over the last two weeks.
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According to that article: "Windows still won’t restart your computer while you’re actively using it, even outside of active hours ". If that is true, then what is the measure of active? Keyboard/mouse activity or processor or disk IO.
Mark Just another cog in the wheel
Anything I'd say would be assumptive: really my take away was the capability to set maintenance windows.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
Come on - as a professional computer user you should find the option yourself where you can turn off automatic restarts on such production/work systems. The thing you can blame Microsoft for is the default option - wich is suitable for most home users... I find it a little confusing that you allready knew that the computer would restart...
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Since Windows 10. Worst feature in years without the possibility to switch this off...
V.
(MQOTD rules and previous solutions)
you can Switch it off - update Settings/new start Options (anniversery update) update Setting/advanced Options, - turn off automatic restart. Default on all my systems.... As it allways was with Windows upates since Windows XP if I remember correctly...
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No, that is not how it happens anymore. 10 days ago, it happened to me too, my laptop restarted on itself without asking me anything about it. If this is the case, that you were in the middle of an important work, then personally I would suggest updating the work hours and set it to the timing where your work is about to be done. Windows won't restart during that time.
The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~
just turn off automatic restart and you are fine...
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
I hate that even when Microsoft has done this to you - the patches sometimes break your machine worse. . . and Microsoft have taken away your permissions to fix them. Recently I had issues where the computer would freeze for a quarter second, up to sometimes two seconds. Mainly when doing things in games or things with audio - where a horrible buzz would sound. The problem turned out to be DCOM not registered properly - related to a patch that had not installed properly. Even as Admin using regedit - I was denied permissions to update the permissions to fix it. Possibly I could have uninstalled the patch and re-installed it, but that was not looking promising. So in the end the failure of the patching process caused me to need to rebuild windows 10. If there was another alternative that ran the games I want to play - I'd probably go with it.
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Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
Configuration is key. By default, Windows schedules installing updates during off-hours. By default, those off-hours are set to when nobody usually works. Everything I just mentioned is configurable. Configure it!