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  • H Herbie Mountjoy

    Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

    We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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    VirtualJack
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    Running Windows 10 version 1511, Under `Updates > Advanced Options` I've set it to "Notify to Install" so it doesn't auto install & Schedule a reboot.

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    • W W Balboos GHB

      I think you missed out . . . Lose10 doesn't offer that option. The user has to go to system services to shut it off - something only a very small fraction of user can/would know how to do. Otherwise, it's not an option - it will do what it wants when it wants to. However, once you shut the service, you don't get any messages that updates are available at all.

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Alister Morton
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      I may have to do that on one of our machines at our theatre. It's running the sound and video cueing system, and even if an update was applied when there wasn't a performance taking place, it would be a serious problem if the update stopped the machine working, or uninstalled a driver, which is not unheard of. I'd prefer to be able to say that the machine cannot apply updates at any time in a given range of dates (because of course we know the performance schedule up to a year in advance). Currently we turn off the network connection, but it gets turned back on to download sound files from effects sites and so on, and that can trigger an update, and if someone forgets to disable it after downloading something ...

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      • H Herbie Mountjoy

        Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

        We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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        R Erasmus
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        I've been getting lots many 'blue screen of death' with win10... Happened to me three times just yesterday. It looks a little bit different than in the past and I think pc shuts down, but still, loose everything you were working on.

        "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>

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        • N Nathan Minier

          How to Set “Active Hours” So Windows 10 Won’t Restart at a Bad Time[^]

          "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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          Herbie Mountjoy
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          Now that is worth knowing.

          We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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          • H Herbie Mountjoy

            Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

            We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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            code_junkie
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            This happened with my Win10 phone while I was waiting for my daughter to call. She had a very late night school trip for a competition. Needless to say I was not happy with the timing. Obviously updates need some polish, like aggressive confirmation windows with long timers.

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            • H Herbie Mountjoy

              Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

              We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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              Chaoix
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              You can disable the automatic restarts using Group Policies: Prevent Windows Server 2012 from forcing a reboot after updates - Server Fault[^]

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              • N Nathan Minier

                How to Set “Active Hours” So Windows 10 Won’t Restart at a Bad Time[^]

                "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                Mark Starr
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                According to that article: "Windows still won’t restart your computer while you’re actively using it, even outside of active hours ". If that is true, then what is the measure of active? Keyboard/mouse activity or processor or disk IO.

                Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                • H Herbie Mountjoy

                  Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                  We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                  sasadler
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                  This kind of crap is why I've been switching my home computers to Linux (well, one to FreeBSD). I want to retain control of my systems. I will be dual booting my main machine though since I use Photoshop (infrequently) and play some Windows only games. I will miss AutoHotKey and robocopy.

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                  • H Herbie Mountjoy

                    Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                    We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                    Member 12486911
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                    I have a message this morning that it wants to update... I need to get this thought out before it starts... I think we shou

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                    • H Herbie Mountjoy

                      Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                      We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                      buckrogerz 0
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                      Have you not learned anything yet Joshua! The only winning move is not to play

                      Buckrogerz

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                      • H Herbie Mountjoy

                        Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                        We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                        DBI Technologies Inc
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                        How about a Class Action Law Suite. MSFT have abridged their own license agreement (Active Hours) and for a small company, the Windows 10 Anniversary update has cost us about $20K in lost man hours over the last two weeks.

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                        • M Mark Starr

                          According to that article: "Windows still won’t restart your computer while you’re actively using it, even outside of active hours ". If that is true, then what is the measure of active? Keyboard/mouse activity or processor or disk IO.

                          Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                          Nathan Minier
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                          Anything I'd say would be assumptive: really my take away was the capability to set maintenance windows.

                          "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                          • H Herbie Mountjoy

                            Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                            We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                            johannesnestler
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                            Come on - as a professional computer user you should find the option yourself where you can turn off automatic restarts on such production/work systems. The thing you can blame Microsoft for is the default option - wich is suitable for most home users... I find it a little confusing that you allready knew that the computer would restart...

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                              Since Windows 10. Worst feature in years without the possibility to switch this off...

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                              (MQOTD rules and previous solutions)

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                              johannesnestler
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                              you can Switch it off - update Settings/new start Options (anniversery update) update Setting/advanced Options, - turn off automatic restart. Default on all my systems.... As it allways was with Windows upates since Windows XP if I remember correctly...

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                              • A Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan

                                No, that is not how it happens anymore. 10 days ago, it happened to me too, my laptop restarted on itself without asking me anything about it. If this is the case, that you were in the middle of an important work, then personally I would suggest updating the work hours and set it to the timing where your work is about to be done. Windows won't restart during that time.

                                The shit I complain about It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem ~! Firewall !~

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                                johannesnestler
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                                just turn off automatic restart and you are fine...

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                                • H Herbie Mountjoy

                                  Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                                  We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                                  pmauriks
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                                  I hate that even when Microsoft has done this to you - the patches sometimes break your machine worse. . . and Microsoft have taken away your permissions to fix them. Recently I had issues where the computer would freeze for a quarter second, up to sometimes two seconds. Mainly when doing things in games or things with audio - where a horrible buzz would sound. The problem turned out to be DCOM not registered properly - related to a patch that had not installed properly. Even as Admin using regedit - I was denied permissions to update the permissions to fix it. Possibly I could have uninstalled the patch and re-installed it, but that was not looking promising. So in the end the failure of the patching process caused me to need to rebuild windows 10. If there was another alternative that ran the games I want to play - I'd probably go with it.

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                                  • H Herbie Mountjoy

                                    Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                                    We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                                    Kirill Illenseer
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                                    Configuration is key. By default, Windows schedules installing updates during off-hours. By default, those off-hours are set to when nobody usually works. Everything I just mentioned is configurable. Configure it!

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                                    • J johannesnestler

                                      you can Switch it off - update Settings/new start Options (anniversery update) update Setting/advanced Options, - turn off automatic restart. Default on all my systems.... As it allways was with Windows upates since Windows XP if I remember correctly...

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                                      Nope, unfortunately nothing of that sort.

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                                      • H Herbie Mountjoy

                                        Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                                        We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                                        Daniel Wilianto
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                                        You can find old settings in Group Policy Editor. Set it to something like this: download updates automatically but let me choose when to install them.

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                                        • H Herbie Mountjoy

                                          Windows 10 updates are driving me insane. Previously I had several hours wasted, once in front of a potential client, while I waited for updates to complete. Today Microsoft excelled themselves (oh dear, unintentional pun). While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything. Yes I did get a notification to tell me a restart was scheduled. But it did say it would happen in the wee small hours when the PC would not be in use. I suppose 1800 hours in Malaysia equates to 0300 in California. Why don't they use PC time for the restarts I wonder? Bah!!! Now where did I out that Linux disc?

                                          We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                                          ClockMeister
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                                          Sure am glad I locked that Trojan out of my network. I keep one copy confined to a VM for testing. I think I'll stick with 7 for the duration, myself.

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