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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    My wife wants to move to Oregon. I f*ckin hate moving, and I certainly don't want to move to Oregon.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    WiganLatics
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    That's a pretty long way to move. It's about the same distance that Putin would have to move to be my next door neighbour...

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      They actually have open carry there, which really surprises me.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      windyforce
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      The city of Portland and a few others do not allow open carry FWIW. You are legally allowed if you have a concealed weapon permit, but expect to be harassed and detained in one of the cities not allowing open carry even with your concealed permit.

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        That's a pretty long way to move. It's about the same distance that Putin would have to move to be my next door neighbour...

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        realJSOP
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        If you believe the rumors, the Russians are gonna be closer neighbors "real soon" ™.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          The city of Portland and a few others do not allow open carry FWIW. You are legally allowed if you have a concealed weapon permit, but expect to be harassed and detained in one of the cities not allowing open carry even with your concealed permit.

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          realJSOP
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          What I find disturbing is that "localities" can override state law. this is especially confusing and troubling when carrying in your car. In Texas, your car is not considered a "public place", but is instead considered to be an extension of your home.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            If you believe the rumors, the Russians are gonna be closer neighbors "real soon" ™.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            Maximilien
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            but, but, you can see Russia from Oregon. (to quote a famous person)

            I'd rather be phishing!

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              They actually have open carry there, which really surprises me.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              MacSpudster
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              Be careful of OC in Oregon. Cities have the (unconstitutional) state code "legal" authorization to ban OC, such as Oregon City, Portland, Astoria, etc. A major majority of central and eastern counties & cities have no such "infringement". Though, unlike Oregon where you can CC on school grounds, in Idaho such is prohibited unless explicit authorization is given by the school board (an executive branch entity which has not the state constitutional authority to 'legislate' such).

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                My wife wants to move to Oregon. I f*ckin hate moving, and I certainly don't want to move to Oregon.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                MacSpudster
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                Then move to Idaho!

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  patbob wrote:

                  And yes, we do actually get 40 days and nights of continual rain every couple of years

                  Ain't exactly show car weather...

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Lost User
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  show car weather

                  No it ain't. I used to work with a guy that was big into boats. You would think that Portland would be a great place to have a boat to go out on the sunny summer weekends. So, he bought a brand new ski boat in 2009 (I think, my memory is going). Well he couldn't take it out the first year. The second year was much better, he got to take his boat out 3 times during the summer. Not sure about the 3rd year. I moved out of Oregon about then. The year after I moved out of Oregon/Washington, was the year he sold his boat. A fire fighter I knew up there was a Harley rider. Him and his wife rode to Sturgis every year. Last I heard he was real tired of only being able to ride his bike 4 or 5 times during the year. YMMV.

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                    but, but, you can see Russia from Oregon. (to quote a famous person)

                    I'd rather be phishing!

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    I believe she said Alaska, not Oregon. And depending on your exact location (the Bering Strait), the time of year and how clear the weather is, you actually can see Russia from Alaska. After all, the Strait is only 51 miles (82 km) wide.

                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      What I find disturbing is that "localities" can override state law. this is especially confusing and troubling when carrying in your car. In Texas, your car is not considered a "public place", but is instead considered to be an extension of your home.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Foothill
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                      If you move, you could always show proof that the law violates your rights, sue, go to the legislature and then win. We did that here, State to overturn local open-carry laws[^]

                      if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); } Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        show car weather

                        No it ain't. I used to work with a guy that was big into boats. You would think that Portland would be a great place to have a boat to go out on the sunny summer weekends. So, he bought a brand new ski boat in 2009 (I think, my memory is going). Well he couldn't take it out the first year. The second year was much better, he got to take his boat out 3 times during the summer. Not sure about the 3rd year. I moved out of Oregon about then. The year after I moved out of Oregon/Washington, was the year he sold his boat. A fire fighter I knew up there was a Harley rider. Him and his wife rode to Sturgis every year. Last I heard he was real tired of only being able to ride his bike 4 or 5 times during the year. YMMV.

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                        patbob
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                        A local band, the Doubleclicks, pretty much nailed winter here: Cats & Netflix[^] :)

                        We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          I believe she said Alaska, not Oregon. And depending on your exact location (the Bering Strait), the time of year and how clear the weather is, you actually can see Russia from Alaska. After all, the Strait is only 51 miles (82 km) wide.

                          #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOzyou actually can see Russia from Alaska. After all, the Strait is only 51 miles (82 km) wide.

                          You see could the beach of Cape Dezhnev if you stood on top of a 530m high tower at Cape Prince of Wales (give or take a few meters, my math is a bit rusty). Earth curvature you know. I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Little and Big Diomede islands, but they're only 2.4 miles apart

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                          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                            I believe she said Alaska, not Oregon. And depending on your exact location (the Bering Strait), the time of year and how clear the weather is, you actually can see Russia from Alaska. After all, the Strait is only 51 miles (82 km) wide.

                            #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                            Maximilien
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                            well, not really. You can only see about 5km at sea level because of the earth curvature (unless you are a flat-earther).

                            I'd rather be phishing!

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              My wife wants to move to Oregon. I f*ckin hate moving, and I certainly don't want to move to Oregon.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              My wife wants to move to Oregon.

                              For Mary Jane? :-D

                              Regards, Nish


                              Website: www.voidnish.com Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOzyou actually can see Russia from Alaska. After all, the Strait is only 51 miles (82 km) wide.

                                You see could the beach of Cape Dezhnev if you stood on top of a 530m high tower at Cape Prince of Wales (give or take a few meters, my math is a bit rusty). Earth curvature you know. I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Little and Big Diomede islands, but they're only 2.4 miles apart

                                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                530m high tower

                                Wrong. The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of approximately 8 inches per mile. So over 51 miles you would have a curvature of 8 * 51 = 408 inches = 34 feet (or about 10.4 meters). So you'd only need to be on a sizable hill or cliff at the shore to see Cape Dezhnev, from which there are plenty to choose. See this picture[^] as an example. Nevertheless, it'd be difficult to see, without visual aids, even on a extremely clear day due to how the ocean mists muddy the air.

                                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Little and Big Diomede islands, but they're only 2.4 miles apart

                                I wasn't, but Sarah Palin was when she said "...you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska." People always misquote her by leaving off that last part. (Note: I don't think very highly of Mrs. Palin as a politician. McCain could have chosen better.) And some say those island are only 1.5 miles apart. Hey, but don't take my word for it. Also, read the Snopes article[^] about the phrase. Near the end of it a 1988 NY Times article is quoted indicating one can see Siberia from St. Lawrence Island, a distance of 37 miles and also from Cape Prince of Wales, an additional distance of only 14 miles.

                                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                  well, not really. You can only see about 5km at sea level because of the earth curvature (unless you are a flat-earther).

                                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                  You can if you're on a hill or cliff. See my response here[^]

                                  #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    They actually have open carry there, which really surprises me.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    Kent Sharkey
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                                    Yet you can't pump your own gas. :~

                                    TTFN - Kent

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                                      Yet you can't pump your own gas. :~

                                      TTFN - Kent

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      That's what she said...

                                      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        patbob wrote:

                                        And yes, we do actually get 40 days and nights of continual rain every couple of years

                                        Ain't exactly show car weather...

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        dandy72
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        Ain't exactly show car weather...

                                        Well then that settles it. (I'm not exactly kidding)

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                                          Yet you can't pump your own gas. :~

                                          TTFN - Kent

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                                          jeron1
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                                          Well sure, you might get some on your hands and put a smudge on your weapon. :laugh:

                                          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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