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    raddevus
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    I previously reported (The Lounge[^]) that the Win10 Anniversary Edition update makes my i7, 8GB laptop with touchscreen running Intel graphics flicker like crazy. Today, it has literally turned entirely black for 15 seconds or more before it finally re-draws. It's terrible. I started thinking about refresh rates, screen resolution and the rest and started screwing with the settings in the graphics options. Custom Resolutions I'm normally at 1366 x 768 but I decided to switch it. It does seem like a lower resolution makes it not happen as much. That started me thinking. when I go to Custom Resolutions it warns me that being at some resolution not expected by the manufacturer could cause my screen and/or graphics hw to have a shortened life. :confused: I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w? I suppose Satya Nadella will be calling me at any moment? :laugh: :laugh: Edit : Part 2.5 I found an article on MakeUseOf.com that explained how to roll back my driver. How to Fix the Windows 10 Screen Flashing Problem[^] Here's a pic of my driver info that works Intel 4600 driver from 2015[^] Basically boot into safe mode Start device manager Right click the display adapter Choose the rollback driver option It went back to 2015 version and I rebooted. Now I'm in Win10 and NO MORE FLICKER!!! W00t!!! Can't believe it. Hope win10 doesnt' update it again :(

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      I previously reported (The Lounge[^]) that the Win10 Anniversary Edition update makes my i7, 8GB laptop with touchscreen running Intel graphics flicker like crazy. Today, it has literally turned entirely black for 15 seconds or more before it finally re-draws. It's terrible. I started thinking about refresh rates, screen resolution and the rest and started screwing with the settings in the graphics options. Custom Resolutions I'm normally at 1366 x 768 but I decided to switch it. It does seem like a lower resolution makes it not happen as much. That started me thinking. when I go to Custom Resolutions it warns me that being at some resolution not expected by the manufacturer could cause my screen and/or graphics hw to have a shortened life. :confused: I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w? I suppose Satya Nadella will be calling me at any moment? :laugh: :laugh: Edit : Part 2.5 I found an article on MakeUseOf.com that explained how to roll back my driver. How to Fix the Windows 10 Screen Flashing Problem[^] Here's a pic of my driver info that works Intel 4600 driver from 2015[^] Basically boot into safe mode Start device manager Right click the display adapter Choose the rollback driver option It went back to 2015 version and I rebooted. Now I'm in Win10 and NO MORE FLICKER!!! W00t!!! Can't believe it. Hope win10 doesnt' update it again :(

      My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at A

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      They tried to update your laptop from hardboiled to deep fried, there weren't bad intentions on their side :-\

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        I previously reported (The Lounge[^]) that the Win10 Anniversary Edition update makes my i7, 8GB laptop with touchscreen running Intel graphics flicker like crazy. Today, it has literally turned entirely black for 15 seconds or more before it finally re-draws. It's terrible. I started thinking about refresh rates, screen resolution and the rest and started screwing with the settings in the graphics options. Custom Resolutions I'm normally at 1366 x 768 but I decided to switch it. It does seem like a lower resolution makes it not happen as much. That started me thinking. when I go to Custom Resolutions it warns me that being at some resolution not expected by the manufacturer could cause my screen and/or graphics hw to have a shortened life. :confused: I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w? I suppose Satya Nadella will be calling me at any moment? :laugh: :laugh: Edit : Part 2.5 I found an article on MakeUseOf.com that explained how to roll back my driver. How to Fix the Windows 10 Screen Flashing Problem[^] Here's a pic of my driver info that works Intel 4600 driver from 2015[^] Basically boot into safe mode Start device manager Right click the display adapter Choose the rollback driver option It went back to 2015 version and I rebooted. Now I'm in Win10 and NO MORE FLICKER!!! W00t!!! Can't believe it. Hope win10 doesnt' update it again :(

        My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at A

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        raddevus wrote:

        I suppose Satya Nadella will be calling me at any moment?

        Don't count on it. Mickeysoft still owes me a new Lamborghini and I was not inclined to take a 'free' upgrade to Win 10 instead.

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          I previously reported (The Lounge[^]) that the Win10 Anniversary Edition update makes my i7, 8GB laptop with touchscreen running Intel graphics flicker like crazy. Today, it has literally turned entirely black for 15 seconds or more before it finally re-draws. It's terrible. I started thinking about refresh rates, screen resolution and the rest and started screwing with the settings in the graphics options. Custom Resolutions I'm normally at 1366 x 768 but I decided to switch it. It does seem like a lower resolution makes it not happen as much. That started me thinking. when I go to Custom Resolutions it warns me that being at some resolution not expected by the manufacturer could cause my screen and/or graphics hw to have a shortened life. :confused: I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w? I suppose Satya Nadella will be calling me at any moment? :laugh: :laugh: Edit : Part 2.5 I found an article on MakeUseOf.com that explained how to roll back my driver. How to Fix the Windows 10 Screen Flashing Problem[^] Here's a pic of my driver info that works Intel 4600 driver from 2015[^] Basically boot into safe mode Start device manager Right click the display adapter Choose the rollback driver option It went back to 2015 version and I rebooted. Now I'm in Win10 and NO MORE FLICKER!!! W00t!!! Can't believe it. Hope win10 doesnt' update it again :(

          My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at A

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          Weird, it was just the other way around for me. Ever since I got windows 10 ( August 2015 ) ,my second monitor (driven by an intel 4600) was acting up: after every reboot I had to disable/enable it using device manager to get it to show anything. Since the Anniversary update it starts up okay now after a reboot. I guess microsoft is aiming for divine status but we could do with a bit less of the mysterious ways stuff.

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            I previously reported (The Lounge[^]) that the Win10 Anniversary Edition update makes my i7, 8GB laptop with touchscreen running Intel graphics flicker like crazy. Today, it has literally turned entirely black for 15 seconds or more before it finally re-draws. It's terrible. I started thinking about refresh rates, screen resolution and the rest and started screwing with the settings in the graphics options. Custom Resolutions I'm normally at 1366 x 768 but I decided to switch it. It does seem like a lower resolution makes it not happen as much. That started me thinking. when I go to Custom Resolutions it warns me that being at some resolution not expected by the manufacturer could cause my screen and/or graphics hw to have a shortened life. :confused: I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w? I suppose Satya Nadella will be calling me at any moment? :laugh: :laugh: Edit : Part 2.5 I found an article on MakeUseOf.com that explained how to roll back my driver. How to Fix the Windows 10 Screen Flashing Problem[^] Here's a pic of my driver info that works Intel 4600 driver from 2015[^] Basically boot into safe mode Start device manager Right click the display adapter Choose the rollback driver option It went back to 2015 version and I rebooted. Now I'm in Win10 and NO MORE FLICKER!!! W00t!!! Can't believe it. Hope win10 doesnt' update it again :(

            My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at A

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            There is nothing wrong with your computer. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. We fruggin PWN you!

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              There is nothing wrong with your computer. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. We fruggin PWN you!

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              W Balboos GHB
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              Such a perceptive reply (except misspelling OWN) is surely worthy of a +.

              Ravings en masse^

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                Such a perceptive reply (except misspelling OWN) is surely worthy of a +.

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                PWN ;P

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                  PWN ;P

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                  W Balboos GHB
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                  So - after a major cogitation session of your link's explanation, I determined that OWN would have been more like it, anyway. A strong word is only as strong as it is generally understood. The alternative "we BONE you" would also work . . .

                  Ravings en masse^

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                  • R raddevus

                    I previously reported (The Lounge[^]) that the Win10 Anniversary Edition update makes my i7, 8GB laptop with touchscreen running Intel graphics flicker like crazy. Today, it has literally turned entirely black for 15 seconds or more before it finally re-draws. It's terrible. I started thinking about refresh rates, screen resolution and the rest and started screwing with the settings in the graphics options. Custom Resolutions I'm normally at 1366 x 768 but I decided to switch it. It does seem like a lower resolution makes it not happen as much. That started me thinking. when I go to Custom Resolutions it warns me that being at some resolution not expected by the manufacturer could cause my screen and/or graphics hw to have a shortened life. :confused: I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w? I suppose Satya Nadella will be calling me at any moment? :laugh: :laugh: Edit : Part 2.5 I found an article on MakeUseOf.com that explained how to roll back my driver. How to Fix the Windows 10 Screen Flashing Problem[^] Here's a pic of my driver info that works Intel 4600 driver from 2015[^] Basically boot into safe mode Start device manager Right click the display adapter Choose the rollback driver option It went back to 2015 version and I rebooted. Now I'm in Win10 and NO MORE FLICKER!!! W00t!!! Can't believe it. Hope win10 doesnt' update it again :(

                    My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at A

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    Hope win10 doesnt' update it again

                    I assume you read this: Because Windows 10 has mandatory updates, you now need to head to Microsoft’s support page to download a tool to stop the system automatically updating your driver – you can disable this when you know that the newest driver has patched the screen flicker problem. Crazy. Download a piece of software to prevent the OS from downloading new stuff that is broken. :laugh: Marc

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                      Such a perceptive reply (except misspelling OWN) is surely worthy of a +.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Um...[^]

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                        Weird, it was just the other way around for me. Ever since I got windows 10 ( August 2015 ) ,my second monitor (driven by an intel 4600) was acting up: after every reboot I had to disable/enable it using device manager to get it to show anything. Since the Anniversary update it starts up okay now after a reboot. I guess microsoft is aiming for divine status but we could do with a bit less of the mysterious ways stuff.

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                        raddevus
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                        fd9750 wrote:

                        Weird, it was just the other way around for me.

                        Wow. Everything is upside down with Win10, I guess.

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                          raddevus wrote:

                          Hope win10 doesnt' update it again

                          I assume you read this: Because Windows 10 has mandatory updates, you now need to head to Microsoft’s support page to download a tool to stop the system automatically updating your driver – you can disable this when you know that the newest driver has patched the screen flicker problem. Crazy. Download a piece of software to prevent the OS from downloading new stuff that is broken. :laugh: Marc

                          Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                          raddevus
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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          I assume you read this:

                          I did read that, but I am just hoping (hope unfulfilled is just an empty promise) that it won't update it. Yeah, it's totally crazy that you have to download software that tells it not to update. Like putting a lock on your door so it doesn't lock.

                          My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com.

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                            raddevus wrote:

                            Hope win10 doesnt' update it again

                            I assume you read this: Because Windows 10 has mandatory updates, you now need to head to Microsoft’s support page to download a tool to stop the system automatically updating your driver – you can disable this when you know that the newest driver has patched the screen flicker problem. Crazy. Download a piece of software to prevent the OS from downloading new stuff that is broken. :laugh: Marc

                            Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Contributors Wanted for Higher Order Programming Project! Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny

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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            Crazy. Download a piece of software to prevent the OS from downloading new stuff that is broken

                            Ever heard of GWX, and all the third-parties that were created to block it?

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                              I previously reported (The Lounge[^]) that the Win10 Anniversary Edition update makes my i7, 8GB laptop with touchscreen running Intel graphics flicker like crazy. Today, it has literally turned entirely black for 15 seconds or more before it finally re-draws. It's terrible. I started thinking about refresh rates, screen resolution and the rest and started screwing with the settings in the graphics options. Custom Resolutions I'm normally at 1366 x 768 but I decided to switch it. It does seem like a lower resolution makes it not happen as much. That started me thinking. when I go to Custom Resolutions it warns me that being at some resolution not expected by the manufacturer could cause my screen and/or graphics hw to have a shortened life. :confused: I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w? I suppose Satya Nadella will be calling me at any moment? :laugh: :laugh: Edit : Part 2.5 I found an article on MakeUseOf.com that explained how to roll back my driver. How to Fix the Windows 10 Screen Flashing Problem[^] Here's a pic of my driver info that works Intel 4600 driver from 2015[^] Basically boot into safe mode Start device manager Right click the display adapter Choose the rollback driver option It went back to 2015 version and I rebooted. Now I'm in Win10 and NO MORE FLICKER!!! W00t!!! Can't believe it. Hope win10 doesnt' update it again :(

                              My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at A

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                              raddevus wrote:

                              I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w?

                              Microsoft may be pushing the driver on their own site, but they didn't write it--it's still (in your case) Intel's.

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                                raddevus wrote:

                                I know that pushing a monitor to refresh at abnormal speeds might be bad. But my point now is this... ...Doesn't allthis flickering mean that the drivers are doing bad things to my h/w too? And doesn't that mean that Microsoft would have some responsibility in the shortened life of my h/w?

                                Microsoft may be pushing the driver on their own site, but they didn't write it--it's still (in your case) Intel's.

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                                raddevus
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                                dandy72 wrote:

                                but they didn't write it--it's still (in your case) Intel's.

                                Good point. Well, then, Intel owes me!!! I just know that some big corp owes me millions of $$$. :laugh: Pain and flickering and all that.

                                My book, Launch Your Android App, is available at Amazon.com.

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