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  • S stoneyowl2

    I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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    Many of the cars that have automatics also have a feature for optionally manually shifting gears. Tachs are still needed. Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission, and don't need that euro-trash paddle crap to "get all racey".

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    • S stoneyowl2

      I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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      A tachometer is a nice indicator if something is going awry in your system. Also a lot of people, at least outside the USA and Commonwealth, use manual gears and most cars are produced with both the transmissions and then adapted for the local markets.

      DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Many of the cars that have automatics also have a feature for optionally manually shifting gears. Tachs are still needed. Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission, and don't need that euro-trash paddle crap to "get all racey".

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission

        Really real men actually prefer it that way.

        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission

          Really real men actually prefer it that way.

          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
          This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
          "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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          Precisely. :D

          DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Many of the cars that have automatics also have a feature for optionally manually shifting gears. Tachs are still needed. Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission, and don't need that euro-trash paddle crap to "get all racey".

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            You learn to listen to the motor for when to shift up AND down. Don't need no stinking tach.

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              You learn to listen to the motor for when to shift up AND down. Don't need no stinking tach.

              New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta
              I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!

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              realJSOP
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              Yeah, but it's nice to have a tangible indication of what the motor is doing.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission

                Really real men actually prefer it that way.

                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                (my car has a manual, which makes it almost theft proof. :) )

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • S stoneyowl2

                  I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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                  Tachometer does it measure tachyons? I'm going to guess its the gage that shows rpm and a quick google confirms this. I so deserve a beer tonight. I don't use mine very much even if I have an manual but I think its nice to have to help notice if something is starting to go wrong. My current car doesn't show engine temperature which I found quite annoying. Especially since the winter are cold it would be nice to know when the engine is up to the right temperature.

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    You learn to listen to the motor for when to shift up AND down. Don't need no stinking tach.

                    New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta
                    I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    ou learn to listen to the motor for when to shift up AND down.

                    Exactly. In fact, I never learned how to use a tachometer. I just listened. Simple.

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      (my car has a manual, which makes it almost theft proof. :) )

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      That was an old car joke here in Italy, where almost everyone have manuals. "What's the best antitheft device in America?" "A manual gear" :D

                      DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                        That was an old car joke here in Italy, where almost everyone have manuals. "What's the best antitheft device in America?" "A manual gear" :D

                        DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                        You couldn't be more right. Carjackers foiled by manual transmission. And that's not the only one :thumbsup:

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                          You couldn't be more right. Carjackers foiled by manual transmission. And that's not the only one :thumbsup:

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                          Rly? And I thought it was the usual pot shot crack joke against the americans... :omg:

                          DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                          • S stoneyowl2

                            I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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                            But I Like them!

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                              Rly? And I thought it was the usual pot shot crack joke against the americans... :omg:

                              DURA LEX, SED LEX GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani

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                              Foothill
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                              Nope. It really happens. I drive a manual myself and I chuckle when I see these stories knowing that most crooks couldn't drive my car if they did want to steal it.

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                              • S stoneyowl2

                                I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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                                Well, when truly self driving cars become reality, all the gadgets will go away. The car will drive itself to the automated oil change shop at 2 AM when you're asleep, it'll pull in to the automated filling station when it's low on fuel, it'll always drive the speed limit, and if it detects engine problems, it'll find the nearest mechanic and "phone" in ahead of time to have a self-driving rental waiting for you. Then again, in four years, we may all be riding in horse and buggy carriages. Marc

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                                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                                  ou learn to listen to the motor for when to shift up AND down.

                                  Exactly. In fact, I never learned how to use a tachometer. I just listened. Simple.

                                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  I gauge speed based on engine RPM in a given gear. They do this is NASCAR as well, because they don't have speedos in their cars, and they have to obey pit road speed limits.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  • S stoneyowl2

                                    I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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                                    I have wondered about that. My automatic car has one, my five speed motorcycle does not... Next bike will though.

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      I gauge speed based on engine RPM in a given gear. They do this is NASCAR as well, because they don't have speedos in their cars, and they have to obey pit road speed limits.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      They do this is NASCAR

                                      One reason this is not a real sport. ;P

                                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        Many of the cars that have automatics also have a feature for optionally manually shifting gears. Tachs are still needed. Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission, and don't need that euro-trash paddle crap to "get all racey".

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        True. When I was doing 1/4 mile ETs (stripped down Nova hatchback), the tachy was the most important part, besides the engine :) But these days, I rarely look at the thing

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                                        • S stoneyowl2

                                          I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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                                          honestly, my car is so quiet, if I didnt have a tach, I wouldn't realize that I shifted into 2nd(auto) half a mile ago and forgot to shift again. 4500rpm at 35... something isnt right...

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