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Car Tachometers - are they needed?

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  • S stoneyowl2

    I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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    User 10393657
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    honestly, my car is so quiet, if I didnt have a tach, I wouldn't realize that I shifted into 2nd(auto) half a mile ago and forgot to shift again. 4500rpm at 35... something isnt right...

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      Yeah, but it's nice to have a tangible indication of what the motor is doing.

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      Mike Hankey
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      Agreed

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      • D den2k88

        Rly? And I thought it was the usual pot shot crack joke against the americans... :omg:

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        Dan Neely
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        Nope. Manual transmissions are only low single digits percentage of total sales here around the fringes. Most mainstream cars don't even have them as an option anymore. It's mostly bigger pickup trucks and higher end sports cars (most of the entry level ones are automatic these days); although if you try hard enough you can probably find a low end econobox with a manual. Manual transmissions not being available because no one knows how to drive one because there aren't any cars with manual transmissions available to learn on has become a self fulfilling prophesy here over the last few decades.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Many of the cars that have automatics also have a feature for optionally manually shifting gears. Tachs are still needed. Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission, and don't need that euro-trash paddle crap to "get all racey".

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Ha! I prefer automatic now - driving is a bit of a chore these days, not a pleasure (apart form the odd jaunt up the coast or inland through the desert). After I stopped racing I got bored with having to change gears (albeit that was a long time ago). Wife still prefers manual - she reckons less chance of getting car-jacked as most yanks are baffled by gears. :-)

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          • S stoneyowl2

            I was watching the idiot box and saw adds for the new model cars go by, in a sort of half aware state, and a question popped up: Do we REALLY need tachometers in dashboards anymore? With 90% of new cars using automatic trannies, of what use is a tachometer? What could we put there instead?

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            No one ever needed a tachometer - it's a boy's toy. Real drivers know when to change gear.

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              They do this is NASCAR

              One reason this is not a real sport. ;P

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              Because the cars don't have speedometers?

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              • M Member 11683251

                Tachometer does it measure tachyons? I'm going to guess its the gage that shows rpm and a quick google confirms this. I so deserve a beer tonight. I don't use mine very much even if I have an manual but I think its nice to have to help notice if something is starting to go wrong. My current car doesn't show engine temperature which I found quite annoying. Especially since the winter are cold it would be nice to know when the engine is up to the right temperature.

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                realJSOP
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                My car shows the following with gauges (no idiot lights): oil pressure water temp oil temp rear differential oil temp transmission oil temperature fuel pressure fuel/air mixture amps I have much more car than most folks.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  (my car has a manual, which makes it almost theft proof. :) )

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  dandy72
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  my car has a manual

                  So does mine. It's still in the glove box in fact.

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    (my car has a manual, which makes it almost theft proof. :) )

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                    -----
                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    H Brydon
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    (my car has a manual, which makes it almost theft proof. :) )

                    The car I bought for my daughter (college) has manual tranny. I know that she is the only one that drives it. The downside of this is that I cringe whenever I take the car in for dealer maintenance, tire change, car wash etc.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Many of the cars that have automatics also have a feature for optionally manually shifting gears. Tachs are still needed. Besides, real men can still row the gears on a manual transmission, and don't need that euro-trash paddle crap to "get all racey".

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      don't need that euro-trash paddle crap to "get all racey".

                      Preach it, brother! I hate automatic transmissions. My anemic 2002 Honda Civic is more fun to drive (5-speed stick) than my wife's 2013 Dodge Challenger (automatic).

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                      • D Dan Neely

                        Nope. Manual transmissions are only low single digits percentage of total sales here around the fringes. Most mainstream cars don't even have them as an option anymore. It's mostly bigger pickup trucks and higher end sports cars (most of the entry level ones are automatic these days); although if you try hard enough you can probably find a low end econobox with a manual. Manual transmissions not being available because no one knows how to drive one because there aren't any cars with manual transmissions available to learn on has become a self fulfilling prophesy here over the last few decades.

                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                        Right, and it's a damn shame!

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                        • U User 10393657

                          honestly, my car is so quiet, if I didnt have a tach, I wouldn't realize that I shifted into 2nd(auto) half a mile ago and forgot to shift again. 4500rpm at 35... something isnt right...

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                          I did that once. Top down across the I80 in northern Nevada at 70 mph in 5th gear. Hmm, the RPM is a bit high :^)! Oops! Shift to 6th real quick. Whew!

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