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  • C Chris9820

    Hi, is there anything like CP for Java development? Chris

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    perx
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    Have a look at the Java Tutorial: http://java.sun.com/tutorial/ NOTE TO VC++ GEEKS OUT THERE Don't follow this link for any reason, it can excite envy to you! :wtf:

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      Hi, is there anything like CP for Java development? Chris

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      Venkatraman
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      www.theserverside.com[^] Cheers, Venkatraman Kalyanam Chennai - India "Being Excellent is not a skill, it is an attitude"

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        .S.Rod. wrote: Boolean.true Okay then, but I don't know Java... and after what people here on CP said about Java when I asked if Java is bad or good... I don't think wanna know Java... :~ Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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        Paul Watson
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        Rickard Andersson18 wrote: and after what people here on CP said about Java when I asked if Java is bad or good... I don't think wanna know Java... Java is fine. Java runtime environment bad. Actually the other day I was shocked to find myself LIKING a Java Applet embedded in a web page. I even, but only for a picosecond, considered licensing the applet for my projects.

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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          Rickard Andersson18 wrote: and after what people here on CP said about Java when I asked if Java is bad or good... I don't think wanna know Java... Java is fine. Java runtime environment bad. Actually the other day I was shocked to find myself LIKING a Java Applet embedded in a web page. I even, but only for a picosecond, considered licensing the applet for my projects.

          Paul Watson
          Bluegrass
          Cape Town, South Africa

          Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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          Stephane Rodriguez
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          Paul Watson wrote: LIKING a Java Applet I have never licked a Java applet. Bad taste, pretty sure! ;)

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          • R Rickard Andersson20

            .S.Rod. wrote: Boolean.true Okay then, but I don't know Java... and after what people here on CP said about Java when I asked if Java is bad or good... I don't think wanna know Java... :~ Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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            Stephane Rodriguez
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            Want to see a scary figure about .NET booleans btw? bool b; int b_layoutsize = Marshal.SizeOf(b); MessageBox.Show("a single .NET boolean takes " + b_layoutsize + " bytes in memory");

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              #ifndef VB
              #define TRUE 1
              #define FALSE !TRUE
              #endif
              

              :rolleyes::rolleyes:

              Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
              :suss: :rolleyes: :suss:

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              peterchen
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              No, youre completely wrong. it's - i've seen it! -

              #define True 1
              #define TRUE -1
              #define False !True
              #define FALSE !TRUE

              :~


              "Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
              sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                No, youre completely wrong. it's - i've seen it! -

                #define True 1
                #define TRUE -1
                #define False !True
                #define FALSE !TRUE

                :~


                "Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
                sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen

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                Olli
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                True, what i left was not right.

                Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
                :suss: :rolleyes: :suss:

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Rickard Andersson18 wrote: and after what people here on CP said about Java when I asked if Java is bad or good... I don't think wanna know Java... Java is fine. Java runtime environment bad. Actually the other day I was shocked to find myself LIKING a Java Applet embedded in a web page. I even, but only for a picosecond, considered licensing the applet for my projects.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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                  David Wulff
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                  Paul Watson wrote: I even, but only for a picosecond, considered licensing the applet for my projects. Yeah I've seen that shimmering text applet too - it's pretty. :rolleyes:


                  David Wulff

                  What the hell did I ever do to anyone?

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                  • C Chris9820

                    Hi, is there anything like CP for Java development? Chris

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                    zack
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                    there is jguru: www.jguru.com

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                    • S Stephane Rodriguez

                      Want to see a scary figure about .NET booleans btw? bool b; int b_layoutsize = Marshal.SizeOf(b); MessageBox.Show("a single .NET boolean takes " + b_layoutsize + " bytes in memory");

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                      Rickard Andersson20
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                      .S.Rod. wrote: bool b; int b_layoutsize = Marshal.SizeOf(b); MessageBox.Show("a single .NET boolean takes " + b_layoutsize + " bytes in memory"); Okay, I guess it's much memory under a boolean in .NET when you say it's scary? :) (I don't have VS.NET on this machine, so I can't try it) Rickard Andersson8 Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Interests: C++, ADO, SQL, Winsock, 0s and 1s

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                      • C Chris9820

                        Hi, is there anything like CP for Java development? Chris

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                        Lost User
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                        Check these out: // everything related to Java www.jguru.com // Open Source for all (mostly Java and some non-Microsoft native) www.apache.org // Open Source most popular Application Server. An Application Server is a Java To Enterprise Edition reference implementation (implements specs) and you can think of it as .NET Framework (if this makes any easier for you). You will be able to use Java Naming and Directory Interface (JNDI) -an abstract framework for distributed object directories management, Enterprise Java Beans (EJB) - an automation of mapping your objects to any type of dabase and remoting of your objects, www.jboss.org // Jackarta Tomcat is Open Source most popular Servlet Engine. Think of it as runtime for you ASP pages, instead use Java and JSP extension for your server side programing. You can either implement your servlet as an extension of servlet framework implemented by Tomcat or embed your Java right into HTML and on first request Tomcat will compile those .jsp pages into .class files that comply with Servlet specs. jakarta.apache.org Good luck ;) Marat Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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                          Have a look at the Java Tutorial: http://java.sun.com/tutorial/ NOTE TO VC++ GEEKS OUT THERE Don't follow this link for any reason, it can excite envy to you! :wtf:

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                          Ryan Binns
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                          perx wrote: NOTE TO VC++ GEEKS OUT THERE Don't follow this link for any reason, it can excite envy to you! Nope. I'm more likely to throw up :) Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                          Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                            True, what i left was not right.

                            Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
                            :suss: :rolleyes: :suss:

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                            Brian Delahunty
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                            next time Olli, next time :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                              perx wrote: NOTE TO VC++ GEEKS OUT THERE Don't follow this link for any reason, it can excite envy to you! Nope. I'm more likely to throw up :) Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                              Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                              Lost User
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                              Have you used Java or J2EE? ;) Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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                                Have you used Java or J2EE? ;) Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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                                Ryan Binns
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                                Yes, but thankfully not very much. :) Java itself is ok, but any program run under the JRE is automatically the slowest piece of software in the world. It's ok for web stuff (because of its cross-platform properties) but using it for anything else is the most stupid decision that someone could make, unless of course they don't care about having time to make (and drink) a cup of coffee in between each instruction. I just hope that I never have to touch it again. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                  Yes, but thankfully not very much. :) Java itself is ok, but any program run under the JRE is automatically the slowest piece of software in the world. It's ok for web stuff (because of its cross-platform properties) but using it for anything else is the most stupid decision that someone could make, unless of course they don't care about having time to make (and drink) a cup of coffee in between each instruction. I just hope that I never have to touch it again. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                  Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                  Lost User
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                                  The 'not very much' part says it all.... It's just like saying "I hate something just because I don't know it". Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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                                    Rickard Andersson18 wrote: and after what people here on CP said about Java when I asked if Java is bad or good... I don't think wanna know Java... Java is fine. Java runtime environment bad. Actually the other day I was shocked to find myself LIKING a Java Applet embedded in a web page. I even, but only for a picosecond, considered licensing the applet for my projects.

                                    Paul Watson
                                    Bluegrass
                                    Cape Town, South Africa

                                    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Shog9: Paul "The human happy pill" Watson

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                                    Brian Delahunty
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                                    So. You like Java Applets now Paul... Hmmm... Testing friendships is all your doing now Paul. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                                      The 'not very much' part says it all.... It's just like saying "I hate something just because I don't know it". Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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                                      Ryan Binns
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                                      Not at all. I've been programming in Java for about 3 years, although not in the last 6 months. It's similar enough to C++ that it was very quick to learn (since I've been programming in C++ for about 7yrs). Even running on my Celeron 900 a really simple app is really slow. I don't like the JRE and the fact that Java is interpreted and not compiled. It makes it perfect for web stuff, but pretty useless for apps that need a bit of performance. I don't have a problem with the language, but simply the fact that it is interpreted and is therefore really slow. If someone wrote a compiler that produced standalone executables (I'm not sure if one exists) then I'd look at Java more. But until then I don't see the point of it for most situations. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                      Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                        Not at all. I've been programming in Java for about 3 years, although not in the last 6 months. It's similar enough to C++ that it was very quick to learn (since I've been programming in C++ for about 7yrs). Even running on my Celeron 900 a really simple app is really slow. I don't like the JRE and the fact that Java is interpreted and not compiled. It makes it perfect for web stuff, but pretty useless for apps that need a bit of performance. I don't have a problem with the language, but simply the fact that it is interpreted and is therefore really slow. If someone wrote a compiler that produced standalone executables (I'm not sure if one exists) then I'd look at Java more. But until then I don't see the point of it for most situations. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                        Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                        Stephane Rodriguez
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                                        I can't believe you don't know both Sun and MS have been distributing native exe gens for years. For instance, MS distributes jexegen.exe (part of the Java SDK).

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                                          Not at all. I've been programming in Java for about 3 years, although not in the last 6 months. It's similar enough to C++ that it was very quick to learn (since I've been programming in C++ for about 7yrs). Even running on my Celeron 900 a really simple app is really slow. I don't like the JRE and the fact that Java is interpreted and not compiled. It makes it perfect for web stuff, but pretty useless for apps that need a bit of performance. I don't have a problem with the language, but simply the fact that it is interpreted and is therefore really slow. If someone wrote a compiler that produced standalone executables (I'm not sure if one exists) then I'd look at Java more. But until then I don't see the point of it for most situations. Ryan Being little and getting pushed around by big guys all my life I guess I compensate by pushing electrons and holes around. What a bully I am, but I do enjoy making subatomic particles hop at my bidding - Roger Wright (2nd April 2003, The Lounge)
                                          Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late - John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Are you familiar with the concept of JIT compilers?? Kagetsya dogd' nashinaetsya :)

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