Somebody out there who also has to work with Embarcadero C++ Builder?
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My experience is that the quality of Visual Studio is heavily depending which version you use. The 2001 was total crap, the 2003 on the right track, the 2005 quite nice and from 2009 really fine. Especially when running on Windows 7.
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I'm using VS2013 up to VS2015 (for really small Projects/interfaces) with W7/W8.1 and I'm impressed about the Quality. Especally while developing components. With Embarcadero it's very easy to "switch off" IDE (means IDE does not start again) while having a problem in a self made component. I'm aware, that is not an easy Job for an IDE to manage self developed components. Borland 6 was more or less relaiable, but Embarcadero RAD 10 is the hell. With VS I made at least the expirience that my self developed components can't take "out of order" the IDE.
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I need to work a lot with C++ Builder and I like it a lot and I hate it lot of times a lot more; for me it (Embarcadero/former Borland) is the real case if a love hate. A long time before MS they introduced a nice visual form designer, with a very clever structure (VCL, visual component library), easy to understand, easy to handle and easy to extend. But meanwhile they are always about two “decades” behind the state of the technics. - Even today, with RAD Studio it is a hassle to e.g. use Unicode in the source file. - Also stability of the IDE in case of bigger projects is frustrating I have to admit, I know VS only for small projects, but it is much more comfortable and reliable. Anybody out there who also suffers under Embarcadero? [Edit] BTW I Need to work with "Embarcadero® C++Builder 10.1 Berlin Version 24.0.25048.9432" [/Edit]
Here's how you find a list of gypsys who are still ridgeroaming the www ... but should be quite happy with VS later than 2010 ... https://www.codeproject.com/search.aspx?q=Embarcadero&sbo=qa&usfc=false&x=4&y=7 Sift through the names here and solicit directly.
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I need to work a lot with C++ Builder and I like it a lot and I hate it lot of times a lot more; for me it (Embarcadero/former Borland) is the real case if a love hate. A long time before MS they introduced a nice visual form designer, with a very clever structure (VCL, visual component library), easy to understand, easy to handle and easy to extend. But meanwhile they are always about two “decades” behind the state of the technics. - Even today, with RAD Studio it is a hassle to e.g. use Unicode in the source file. - Also stability of the IDE in case of bigger projects is frustrating I have to admit, I know VS only for small projects, but it is much more comfortable and reliable. Anybody out there who also suffers under Embarcadero? [Edit] BTW I Need to work with "Embarcadero® C++Builder 10.1 Berlin Version 24.0.25048.9432" [/Edit]
0x01AA wrote:
Embarcadero
Not a ship I sail with I am afraid. :)
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Here's how you find a list of gypsys who are still ridgeroaming the www ... but should be quite happy with VS later than 2010 ... https://www.codeproject.com/search.aspx?q=Embarcadero&sbo=qa&usfc=false&x=4&y=7 Sift through the names here and solicit directly.
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0x01AA wrote:
Embarcadero
Not a ship I sail with I am afraid. :)
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Glad you got the pun! :)
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Glad you got the pun! :)
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But fairly evident nontheless: barque - Recherche Google[^] :)
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But fairly evident nontheless: barque - Recherche Google[^] :)
For me it's more "naufrage" [schiffbruch - Google-Suche](https://www.google.ch/search?q=schiffbruch&biw=1382&bih=686&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiN8a2qyeXRAhXHShQKHaE8DdwQ\_AUIBigB) :-D
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For me it's more "naufrage" [schiffbruch - Google-Suche](https://www.google.ch/search?q=schiffbruch&biw=1382&bih=686&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiN8a2qyeXRAhXHShQKHaE8DdwQ\_AUIBigB) :-D
"schiffbruch" Ship breach? :) We have a skiff in English: schiffbruch - Google-Suche[^]
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Not Emarcadero flavour but Borland Builder 2006, so close to .NET yet so far(?) Didn't really like it or see the need for it. It's just the guy who wrote the software kept using Borland...I really only used the DOS Turbo versions at College and Uni (and liked those). Having come from the VS Windos background to the Borland (or as I christen it Bob the) Builder. It was a step sideways, it always seemed to want you to do things the Pascal way... :sigh:
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I need to work a lot with C++ Builder and I like it a lot and I hate it lot of times a lot more; for me it (Embarcadero/former Borland) is the real case if a love hate. A long time before MS they introduced a nice visual form designer, with a very clever structure (VCL, visual component library), easy to understand, easy to handle and easy to extend. But meanwhile they are always about two “decades” behind the state of the technics. - Even today, with RAD Studio it is a hassle to e.g. use Unicode in the source file. - Also stability of the IDE in case of bigger projects is frustrating I have to admit, I know VS only for small projects, but it is much more comfortable and reliable. Anybody out there who also suffers under Embarcadero? [Edit] BTW I Need to work with "Embarcadero® C++Builder 10.1 Berlin Version 24.0.25048.9432" [/Edit]
I had to use it earlier this year and found it to be a big pile of junk. The crappy IDE aside, the compiler is horrible. Let's put it this way; I find it preferable to use Eclipse in CentOS 6. Now that's damning.
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I had to use it earlier this year and found it to be a big pile of junk. The crappy IDE aside, the compiler is horrible. Let's put it this way; I find it preferable to use Eclipse in CentOS 6. Now that's damning.
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The crappy IDE
I'm working with it since about 20 years, so I got used to it... As long as it starts up and does not abort abnormally, which happens too often :mad:
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the compiler is horrible
Yes indeed! But fortunately for about $140 JomiTech helps for this with TwineCompile which drastically decrease compile time (about factor 10). But the price includes also some new side effects and the increase of the chance that the IDE crashes :^)