Life as developer (on-call)
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Work so that you might live, do not live to work.
Speed of sound - 1100 ft/sec Speed of light - 186,000 mi/sec Speed of stupid - instantaneous.
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I turned down one from a start-up in 2008 for the same reason despite the pay being very handsome. Money is one thing, but my peace of mind and my time with family is not for sale.
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Leng Vang wrote:
the pay is among the best ($250-300K)
Geez, at that pay rate, I would have happily written a diagnostic flowchart script and call-forwarded my phone to a call center in India, probably could get away with paying them $15K to take the calls. ;) Marc
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Leng Vang wrote:
the pay is among the best ($250-300K)
As a developer?... Ya right. I've been coding for 30+ years, and I'm not afraid to say that I'm dam good... and I don't make anywhere near 250K, let alone 300K I call bull$hit.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I suggest you send your resume to Amazon.com recruiters right now. The position may be still available now (they have thousands open). I only turn it down last week. You have to move to Seatle, WA (relocation and sign on bonus paid). The position is Software Developer Engineer III. I didn't made these up.
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I suggest you send your resume to Amazon.com recruiters right now. The position may be still available now (they have thousands open). I only turn it down last week. You have to move to Seatle, WA (relocation and sign on bonus paid). The position is Software Developer Engineer III. I didn't made these up.
I've seen Amazon develop job postings before. Not one ever even approached that kind of money.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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I've seen Amazon develop job postings before. Not one ever even approached that kind of money.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
You should show more cleavage then.
Jeremy Falcon
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You should show more cleavage then.
Jeremy Falcon
Maybe hike my skirt up a bit?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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I've seen Amazon develop job postings before. Not one ever even approached that kind of money.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Things have changed recently. Apple, Facebook, Microsoft and Amazon are really compete for the scarce resource of skilled developers. I, like you, have over 30+ years of development under our belt and with that we also have a lot of architecture experience too, that's why they are really looking for. Here is the recruiter's info: Julian Sanchez | Senior Client Lead, Consumer Recruiting | Amazon E: sanchju@amazon.com P: 206-508-9679
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Leng Vang wrote:
the pay is among the best ($250-300K)
Geez, at that pay rate, I would have happily written a diagnostic flowchart script and call-forwarded my phone to a call center in India, probably could get away with paying them $15K to take the calls. ;) Marc
V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
Yeah, highest I've never seen was for 150K-200k, and the 200k was working as a dev on wall street where living expenses are incredibly high.
Jeremy Falcon
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Maybe hike my skirt up a bit?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Do it. You got kids to feed after all.
Jeremy Falcon
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Things have changed recently. Apple, Facebook, Microsoft and Amazon are really compete for the scarce resource of skilled developers. I, like you, have over 30+ years of development under our belt and with that we also have a lot of architecture experience too, that's why they are really looking for. Here is the recruiter's info: Julian Sanchez | Senior Client Lead, Consumer Recruiting | Amazon E: sanchju@amazon.com P: 206-508-9679
I just started a new development position 2 months ago. Great pay, great benefits, stock options, etc.. Lot's of developers and other professionals here, including PhD's .. and no one makes even close to 250-300. Again, bull$hit.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Do it. You got kids to feed after all.
Jeremy Falcon
.... and zero scruples ;P
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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I just started a new development position 2 months ago. Great pay, great benefits, stock options, etc.. Lot's of developers and other professionals here, including PhD's .. and no one makes even close to 250-300. Again, bull$hit.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Send your resume to: Julian Sanchez | Senior Client Lead, Consumer Recruiting | Amazon E: sanchju@amazon.com P: 206-508-9679
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I'm curious about us developers whom have the unfortunate (or fortunate depend on your taste) of being on call. I used to do that for 10+ years on my previous job, hated every minute of it. Waking up at 3 am just to solve some silly issue. Recently I just turned down a position with Amazon, the pay is among the best ($250-300K) but I just can't cope with the On-call. What are your opinions on on-call, especially work/life balance goes?
Outsource it :)
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I'm curious about us developers whom have the unfortunate (or fortunate depend on your taste) of being on call. I used to do that for 10+ years on my previous job, hated every minute of it. Waking up at 3 am just to solve some silly issue. Recently I just turned down a position with Amazon, the pay is among the best ($250-300K) but I just can't cope with the On-call. What are your opinions on on-call, especially work/life balance goes?
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I just started a new development position 2 months ago. Great pay, great benefits, stock options, etc.. Lot's of developers and other professionals here, including PhD's .. and no one makes even close to 250-300. Again, bull$hit.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Kevin I hate to tell you this but there are positions out there that pay that sort of money and more, I am of similar experience and have a niche position that is more than comparable. The conditions may be crap but the raw income is excellent.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Work/life balance is a myth
"Coming soon"
Well there are American developers.. And there is the rest of the world! ;P We are pretty good here in Australia!
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Leng Vang wrote:
What are your opinions on on-call, especially work/life balance goes?
It was a requirement at my first job, which quickly no longer applied to me. Slept through some calls, and whenever I didn't I would still have to wake up some coworker to get anything done. You'd get paid extra for it, ofcourse. There's no such thing as work without pay. That simple sentence is a kind of auto-balance system in itself :thumbsup:
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You are my hero! :)
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I'm curious about us developers whom have the unfortunate (or fortunate depend on your taste) of being on call. I used to do that for 10+ years on my previous job, hated every minute of it. Waking up at 3 am just to solve some silly issue. Recently I just turned down a position with Amazon, the pay is among the best ($250-300K) but I just can't cope with the On-call. What are your opinions on on-call, especially work/life balance goes?
I was on call for about two weeks on a project when the usual support person wasn't available. The thing is that they can call you any time, so it limits you - you might have to not go out with friends or at the least take a laptop with you in case you need to handle a call. Being called (waken up) in the middle of the night to resolve an issue isn't fun. It depends on what kind of person you are, but it can influence you in that you don't sleep well because you are expecting to be called. I did get paid for the overtime though, so that was nice, but I wouldn't want do it again and definitely not for an extended period.
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Work/life balance is a myth
"Coming soon"
It can be hit and myth, thyure, but you've got to take the rough with the shmooth.
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