Win10 Backups
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
With Reflect, make sure you create the bootable rescue media (USB drive or CD) for every machine that you want to image.
:confused: I thought they already come with the option to boot. As norton ghost or others like that (i.e. hirens boot)
Cornelius Henning wrote:
And: I always use Macrium to verify every new image. Better to know if an image's integrity is compromised before you actually need it.
see my answer to lopatir
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I thought they already come with the option to boot
Apart from the bootable media, Macrium also creates a XML file separate from the image. I believe you can boot using the XML file, but have never used it. I just got so used to booting a "clean" version of the Windows PE operating system, that I can do it blind folded. :)
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I thought they already come with the option to boot
Apart from the bootable media, Macrium also creates a XML file separate from the image. I believe you can boot using the XML file, but have never used it. I just got so used to booting a "clean" version of the Windows PE operating system, that I can do it blind folded. :)
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And you get the "clean" version of the Windows PE... how? Forget it... I already saw it in their page "WinPE rescue environment (CD, DVD, USB or Boot Menu)"
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And you get the "clean" version of the Windows PE... how? Forget it... I already saw it in their page "WinPE rescue environment (CD, DVD, USB or Boot Menu)"
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And you get the "clean" version of the Windows PE... how?
Macrium Reflect and probably AOMEI will create bootable rescue media for you, that will boot the Windows PE operating system. This operating system is necessary to restore previous images. It's a tiny OS, just a few hundred MegaByte, so it fits comfortably on a CD, but you can also flash it onto a USB stick, that will be bootable. I prefer doing it on a CD, then I know it can never be corrupted by a virus, however small that likelihood is. Macrium also allows you to base the PE system on the kernels of different versions of Windows. You just check the kernel version box for your system.
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Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?
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I vote for Clonezilla. Ugly interface but works every time. Make sure you use the latest version. Free. I only run Windows in a virtual machine, easy to backup, just copy the files to the NAS.
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And you get the "clean" version of the Windows PE... how?
Macrium Reflect and probably AOMEI will create bootable rescue media for you, that will boot the Windows PE operating system. This operating system is necessary to restore previous images. It's a tiny OS, just a few hundred MegaByte, so it fits comfortably on a CD, but you can also flash it onto a USB stick, that will be bootable. I prefer doing it on a CD, then I know it can never be corrupted by a virus, however small that likelihood is. Macrium also allows you to base the PE system on the kernels of different versions of Windows. You just check the kernel version box for your system.
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But then... do you need to install the software in every computer before? or is it like Hiren's Bott CD, that you can (or could, I tested the HBCD as well and sadly didn't work any better) use it everywhere?
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But then... do you need to install the software in every computer before? or is it like Hiren's Bott CD, that you can (or could, I tested the HBCD as well and sadly didn't work any better) use it everywhere?
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You need to install the software on every computer that you want to image.
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That's what I like from Ghost, you don't need to have it installed. You do everything from the boot cd. But... it is not working anymore, so I will have to change the method. thanks for the conversation :)
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That's what I like from Ghost, you don't need to have it installed. You do everything from the boot cd. But... it is not working anymore, so I will have to change the method. thanks for the conversation :)
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Thank you... I will have a look
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And you won't regret it. It's working wonderfully well. :thumbsup:
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The only thing I don't really like is... you have to install it first, so you can use it. The thing I loved from my boot cd is that you didn't need anything. Just put CD in and that's all, you could do images or restore images... all without installing anything.
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Must be a ghost-y issue. I use Acronis for such things and live image it with the os up. Acronis will default to reading sectors if there is an issue with the file system. Many imagers has difficulty with hybrid drives. Mechanical big backend drives with a smaller ssd front end. - they're trouble anyway. Make sure it's not one of those.
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The only thing I don't really like is... you have to install it first, so you can use it. The thing I loved from my boot cd is that you didn't need anything. Just put CD in and that's all, you could do images or restore images... all without installing anything.
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Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?
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If the tool can't deal with EPT, then the backup won't run through anyway. You need a newer tool. There's a great one from a German IT magazine, but I can't find anything English on that.
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I vote for Clonezilla. Ugly interface but works every time. Make sure you use the latest version. Free. I only run Windows in a virtual machine, easy to backup, just copy the files to the NAS.
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theoldfool wrote:
I only run Windows in a virtual machine, easy to backup, just copy the files to the NAS.
That's been my strategy for years now--I use VMs a lot, and don't have any software running on the host OS at all, except for motherboard drivers. It's fast enough to reinstall Windows from scratch nowadays, and cumulative updates are now refreshed every month, so I don't bother backing up the host OS. With that out of the way, backing up entire VMs is just a matter of copying a few select files (or just the VHD when it comes down to it). Migrating them from machine to machine is also trivial. That means you're also not dealing with proprietary backup software file formats, and don't have to worry about partitioning and all that crap.
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I have been able to boot it, the problem is once it starts cloning. It complains about corruptetd NTFS
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Taking a wild guess, since you're trying to use a 14 year old tool it doesn't actually support the current flavor of NTFS. MY first guess would be lack of support for GPT (vs MBR); but I'd've expected that to be a total can't read drive failure.
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Taking a wild guess, since you're trying to use a 14 year old tool it doesn't actually support the current flavor of NTFS. MY first guess would be lack of support for GPT (vs MBR); but I'd've expected that to be a total can't read drive failure.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Yes.. that was my guess too. I can see the drives and the partitions, but when it starts it fails within seconds. So the problem is while actually reading the data, which points to format incompatibilities. Thanks for your comment :)
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I've never used it but they have a PXEBoot tool that should help you in that.
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If you don't mind you could expand that information (if it is more confortable for you, use the E-Mail instead of open answer) By the way.. if Email, you can write on spanish.
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If the tool can't deal with EPT, then the backup won't run through anyway. You need a newer tool. There's a great one from a German IT magazine, but I can't find anything English on that.
You can give me the link to german info. I live near Munich :) Thank you in advance
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If you don't mind you could expand that information (if it is more confortable for you, use the E-Mail instead of open answer) By the way.. if Email, you can write on spanish.
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Hi Nelek, I don't mind, but I believe I'll not be able to help a lot... But I can send you the links I've found on their web site: http://www.aomeitech.com/pe-builder.html[^] Here it looks like their PE Builder comes with all the needed software integrated... Also they offer the PXE Boot tool that allows you to handle all the images from network... http://www.aomeitech.com/pxe/pxe-boot-software.html[^] But this is another story... Hope the first one will help you and be what you are after... PS: I'm super curious now... how come you speak Spanish?
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Hi Nelek, I don't mind, but I believe I'll not be able to help a lot... But I can send you the links I've found on their web site: http://www.aomeitech.com/pe-builder.html[^] Here it looks like their PE Builder comes with all the needed software integrated... Also they offer the PXE Boot tool that allows you to handle all the images from network... http://www.aomeitech.com/pxe/pxe-boot-software.html[^] But this is another story... Hope the first one will help you and be what you are after... PS: I'm super curious now... how come you speak Spanish?
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Hi Joan, I thought you were speaking about other thing. I already saw that infos. The Boot CD can be use to restore, but not to create the images (as far as I know, I have not played much yet)
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PS: I'm super curious now... how come you speak Spanish?
see my profile ;) BTW... I have to update it :doh:
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