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  • N Nelek

    Thank you... I will have a look

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    Joan M
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    And you won't regret it. It's working wonderfully well. :thumbsup:

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      And you won't regret it. It's working wonderfully well. :thumbsup:

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      Nelek
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      The only thing I don't really like is... you have to install it first, so you can use it. The thing I loved from my boot cd is that you didn't need anything. Just put CD in and that's all, you could do images or restore images... all without installing anything.

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      • R Ron Anders

        Must be a ghost-y issue. I use Acronis for such things and live image it with the os up. Acronis will default to reading sectors if there is an issue with the file system. Many imagers has difficulty with hybrid drives. Mechanical big backend drives with a smaller ssd front end. - they're trouble anyway. Make sure it's not one of those.

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        AAC Tech
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        I vote for Acronis as well. Mature product product. Good web site. All past versions in archive along with updates.:thumbsup:

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        • N Nelek

          The only thing I don't really like is... you have to install it first, so you can use it. The thing I loved from my boot cd is that you didn't need anything. Just put CD in and that's all, you could do images or restore images... all without installing anything.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Joan M
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          I've never used it but they have a PXEBoot tool that should help you in that.

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          • N Nelek

            Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            Kirill Illenseer
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            If the tool can't deal with EPT, then the backup won't run through anyway. You need a newer tool. There's a great one from a German IT magazine, but I can't find anything English on that.

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            • T theoldfool

              I vote for Clonezilla. Ugly interface but works every time. Make sure you use the latest version. Free. I only run Windows in a virtual machine, easy to backup, just copy the files to the NAS.

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              dandy72
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              theoldfool wrote:

              I only run Windows in a virtual machine, easy to backup, just copy the files to the NAS.

              That's been my strategy for years now--I use VMs a lot, and don't have any software running on the host OS at all, except for motherboard drivers. It's fast enough to reinstall Windows from scratch nowadays, and cumulative updates are now refreshed every month, so I don't bother backing up the host OS. With that out of the way, backing up entire VMs is just a matter of copying a few select files (or just the VHD when it comes down to it). Migrating them from machine to machine is also trivial. That means you're also not dealing with proprietary backup software file formats, and don't have to worry about partitioning and all that crap.

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              • N Nelek

                I have been able to boot it, the problem is once it starts cloning. It complains about corruptetd NTFS

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                Dan Neely
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                Taking a wild guess, since you're trying to use a 14 year old tool it doesn't actually support the current flavor of NTFS. MY first guess would be lack of support for GPT (vs MBR); but I'd've expected that to be a total can't read drive failure.

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                  Taking a wild guess, since you're trying to use a 14 year old tool it doesn't actually support the current flavor of NTFS. MY first guess would be lack of support for GPT (vs MBR); but I'd've expected that to be a total can't read drive failure.

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                  Nelek
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                  Yes.. that was my guess too. I can see the drives and the partitions, but when it starts it fails within seconds. So the problem is while actually reading the data, which points to format incompatibilities. Thanks for your comment :)

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  • J Joan M

                    I've never used it but they have a PXEBoot tool that should help you in that.

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                    Nelek
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                    If you don't mind you could expand that information (if it is more confortable for you, use the E-Mail instead of open answer) By the way.. if Email, you can write on spanish.

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    • K Kirill Illenseer

                      If the tool can't deal with EPT, then the backup won't run through anyway. You need a newer tool. There's a great one from a German IT magazine, but I can't find anything English on that.

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                      Nelek
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                      You can give me the link to german info. I live near Munich :) Thank you in advance

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      • N Nelek

                        If you don't mind you could expand that information (if it is more confortable for you, use the E-Mail instead of open answer) By the way.. if Email, you can write on spanish.

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        Joan M
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                        Hi Nelek, I don't mind, but I believe I'll not be able to help a lot... But I can send you the links I've found on their web site: http://www.aomeitech.com/pe-builder.html[^] Here it looks like their PE Builder comes with all the needed software integrated... Also they offer the PXE Boot tool that allows you to handle all the images from network... http://www.aomeitech.com/pxe/pxe-boot-software.html[^] But this is another story... Hope the first one will help you and be what you are after... PS: I'm super curious now... how come you speak Spanish?

                        www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                        • J Joan M

                          Hi Nelek, I don't mind, but I believe I'll not be able to help a lot... But I can send you the links I've found on their web site: http://www.aomeitech.com/pe-builder.html[^] Here it looks like their PE Builder comes with all the needed software integrated... Also they offer the PXE Boot tool that allows you to handle all the images from network... http://www.aomeitech.com/pxe/pxe-boot-software.html[^] But this is another story... Hope the first one will help you and be what you are after... PS: I'm super curious now... how come you speak Spanish?

                          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                          Nelek
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                          Hi Joan, I thought you were speaking about other thing. I already saw that infos. The Boot CD can be use to restore, but not to create the images (as far as I know, I have not played much yet)

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                          PS: I'm super curious now... how come you speak Spanish?

                          see my profile ;) BTW... I have to update it :doh:

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Hi all, at the end I have bought a new laptop for my wife. It come with SSD and HDD, win 10 preinstalled. After changing to legacy in BIOS I could start with my Norton Ghost 2003 Boot CD, but then I got some error messages I never saw before. I have search a while and done some tests but sadly without success. I suppose my boot cd is a bit too old and can't manage the new styles with Win10. (Other PCs or Laptops with Win7 had no problem at all though) I am starting to think on changing tool and would like to know... what are you using to make your backup images in your Win10 machines?

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Ian Fitzgerald
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                            I just use the built in Backup and Restore (Windows 7) to create system image backups. This is the windows 7 tool that they have left in place for the time being. The images are vhd as well so you should be able to mount them if you need to access a particular file. There are probably some limitations compared to a paid product like Acronis, but it works fine for me.

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                            • I Ian Fitzgerald

                              I just use the built in Backup and Restore (Windows 7) to create system image backups. This is the windows 7 tool that they have left in place for the time being. The images are vhd as well so you should be able to mount them if you need to access a particular file. There are probably some limitations compared to a paid product like Acronis, but it works fine for me.

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                              Nelek
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                              I don't have any problem in Win7, the issue has come with new Laptop and Win10 Thanks anyways :)

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                              • N Nelek

                                I don't have any problem in Win7, the issue has come with new Laptop and Win10 Thanks anyways :)

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                                Ian Fitzgerald
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                                I am talking about windows 10. They have left the old windows 7 tool in windows 10.

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                                • N Nelek

                                  Hi Joan, I thought you were speaking about other thing. I already saw that infos. The Boot CD can be use to restore, but not to create the images (as far as I know, I have not played much yet)

                                  Joan M wrote:

                                  PS: I'm super curious now... how come you speak Spanish?

                                  see my profile ;) BTW... I have to update it :doh:

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Joan M
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                                  :cool: I've been several times at Verl (near to Paderborn) in Germany to receive specialized trainings in Beckhoff. Which kind of PLCs did you use? And which kind of automation projects did you participate in? Mira que la vida da vueltas... :laugh:

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                                  • I Ian Fitzgerald

                                    I am talking about windows 10. They have left the old windows 7 tool in windows 10.

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                                    Nelek
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                                    Ahhhh... sorry, I didn't understand it that way :)

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                                    • N Nelek

                                      You can give me the link to german info. I live near Munich :) Thank you in advance

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                                      Kirill Illenseer
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                                      c’t-WIMage erzeugt Backups ihrer Systempartition | c't Magazin[^]

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                                        c’t-WIMage erzeugt Backups ihrer Systempartition | c't Magazin[^]

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                                        Danke sehr :)

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          AOMEI Backupper[^] - I may have mentioned it before: damn good software, the free version is excellent and full featured - you can create an image and later restore it, or load it as a virtual disk to retrieve individual files if you need them. I bought it in the end, because the developers deserve the money!

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                                          Nelek
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                                          I have given a try... and the result was not so good. I have installed AOEMI in one Win7 Laptop. Then I have created the Boot-CD with WinPE. So far so good. I have changed the Win10 Laptop boot type to Legacy, Inserted the CD, started up, got to the menu so far so good But... crap 1) The booted WinPE doesn't react to mouse or keyboard (but keyboard works, ALT+Space gives the menu to minimize/maximize of the window and ALT+F4 shuts it down). Had a look in AOEMI's forum, the problem was already on 2015 and haven't been solved yet. crap 2) Now... my laptop won't boot in legacy mode anymore. Somehow the WinPE has corrupted something in the legacy structure... I am looking for information about this, but nothing so far... UEFI is still working fine (thanks heaven). In this moment my opinion about the software is way not so good as yours.

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