The future is impossible
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Possible and achievable are two different things. Something may be possible, yet we may not achieve it. I don't think we'll achieve time travel.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I don't think we'll achieve time travel.
According to Hawking the fact that we haven't already been visited by some future time traveler pretty much "proves" it's impossible. :~
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
I don't think we'll achieve time travel.
According to Hawking the fact that we haven't already been visited by some future time traveler pretty much "proves" it's impossible. :~
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
No, not impossible.
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Ygnaiih wrote:
I would be afraid to say any technological advance is impossible.
The speed of light is a known physical limit of the universe. It has little to do with what we can invent, and more with the limits that exisist in the universe.
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I saw this yesterday and spent half the night being unsure if I was glad or not. :omg: (I'm currently chasing down his other videos) [The Geometry of Causality | Space Time - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YFrISfN7jo)
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Sounds like it's time for a "your momma" joke.
Jeremy Falcon
Yo momma so fat that her gravity gradient is so steep that light can't escape her orbit, so she has effectively transformed into a black hole? Did I get the parlance right?
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Lately I am seeing articles from Futurist who say that this or that is impossible. A good example would be faster than light speed travel. I'm old. I've seen everything from floor model radios to 98 inch flat screen TVs with Netflix etc. I would be afraid to say any technological advance is impossible.
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If I remember correctly, it was Einstein who said that impossible things remain such only until someone comes up with a trick to make them possible. :) That's often the case with new discoveries and advances in science. While things may technically remain impossible, there can be "tricks" to bypass the impossibility. As in your example, FTL travel could be made possible not by travelling faster than light (which *may* remain impossible), but by warping the space around you etc. etc.
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Ygnaiih wrote:
I would be afraid to say any technological advance is impossible.
The speed of light is a known physical limit of the universe. It has little to do with what we can invent, and more with the limits that exisist in the universe.
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Ether (cosmic, not medical) was once known as fact of the base material of the universe.
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Ether (cosmic, not medical) was once known as fact of the base material of the universe.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, Erisia Information Services.
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According to Wikipedia: An event horizon is the points at which the gravitational pull becomes so great as to make escape impossible, even for light. Light emitted from inside the event horizon can never reach the outside observer. So if black holes are believed to emit things, how would that work at slower than light speeds? Unless of course the emission never escapes the event horizon and it all happens within that shell.
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Under what gravity?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
What is gravity? The whole thing about not traveling faster than the speed of light is special relativity which is consistent from cosmological scales down to the quantum. Gravity bending spacetime and thus light was general relativity and falls apart at quantum levels. It's one of the least understood things in physics.
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What kind of vacuum? No real vacuum has been actually observed, only approximations of it.
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Johnny J. wrote:
It isn't?
Only in Alabama.
Johnny J. wrote:
They aren't?
See above.
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According to Wikipedia: An event horizon is the points at which the gravitational pull becomes so great as to make escape impossible, even for light. Light emitted from inside the event horizon can never reach the outside observer. So if black holes are believed to emit things, how would that work at slower than light speeds? Unless of course the emission never escapes the event horizon and it all happens within that shell.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
According to Wikipedia: An event horizon is the points at which the gravitational pull becomes so great as to make escape impossible, even for light. Light emitted from inside the event horizon can never reach the outside observer. So if black holes are believed to emit things, how would that work at slower than light speeds? Unless of course the emission never escapes the event horizon and it all happens within that shell.
If nothing can escape a black hole, why do they still emit x-rays?[^]
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
According to Wikipedia: An event horizon is the points at which the gravitational pull becomes so great as to make escape impossible, even for light. Light emitted from inside the event horizon can never reach the outside observer. So if black holes are believed to emit things, how would that work at slower than light speeds? Unless of course the emission never escapes the event horizon and it all happens within that shell.
If nothing can escape a black hole, why do they still emit x-rays?[^]
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No. It was known that people used to think the Earth was flat. Indeed Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's circumference more than 2000 years ago. At least the Greeks had drawn their conclusions from ships apparently disappearing behind the horizon and trying to measure and calculate the circumference would have been kindof pointless if they still had thought the Earth to be flat.
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This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The speed of light is a known physical limit of the universe.
Quote:
"based on current technology and science knowledge I have".
:-D
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No. It was known that people used to think the Earth was flat. Indeed Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's circumference more than 2000 years ago. At least the Greeks had drawn their conclusions from ships apparently disappearing behind the horizon and trying to measure and calculate the circumference would have been kindof pointless if they still had thought the Earth to be flat.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.It was one of the early forms of DoubleThink. You had to believe and say that the Earth was flat as that was part of the one true infallible word of the State Religion. But you would also know that it was incorrect. See also 'The Emperors new clothes'.
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Ygnaiih wrote:
I would be afraid to say any technological advance is impossible.
The speed of light is a known physical limit of the universe. It has little to do with what we can invent, and more with the limits that exisist in the universe.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
I think you are missing the point. There are particles that travel faster than light. I believe we will be able to develop a warp drive. Where we either travel using another dimension, or we effectively fold space. It reminds me of a sci fi story where Battlestar Galactica Meet Star Trek. They were discussing how fast they travel. ST guys were "Oh, we top out at Warp 9". The BSG guys are like "No way. Faster than light? We can only do X speed". And ST laughs... Then they realize how far they traveled... And BSG asks "Oh, you are measuring your speed OUTSIDE of the warp field". Turns out BSG travels much faster. LOL The point being is that our limitations are based on our understanding. As programmers, we do this stuff all the time. Add a level of indirection or abstraction to get what we need. There was a show with Dynamic Window Tinting in the 1980s. My friends and I marveled and realized it was IMPOSSIBLE to tint glass on the fly, and let it untint. USING LCD crystals between the glass, it is available and has been for a while. THAT is when I learned. Guessing it is not possible is never a good guess. We are 3-D printing skin graphs, and soon ORGANS. We have amputees that can run faster than able bodied humans. We will eventually travel faster than light. At least relative to our current geometry.
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I think you are missing the point. There are particles that travel faster than light. I believe we will be able to develop a warp drive. Where we either travel using another dimension, or we effectively fold space. It reminds me of a sci fi story where Battlestar Galactica Meet Star Trek. They were discussing how fast they travel. ST guys were "Oh, we top out at Warp 9". The BSG guys are like "No way. Faster than light? We can only do X speed". And ST laughs... Then they realize how far they traveled... And BSG asks "Oh, you are measuring your speed OUTSIDE of the warp field". Turns out BSG travels much faster. LOL The point being is that our limitations are based on our understanding. As programmers, we do this stuff all the time. Add a level of indirection or abstraction to get what we need. There was a show with Dynamic Window Tinting in the 1980s. My friends and I marveled and realized it was IMPOSSIBLE to tint glass on the fly, and let it untint. USING LCD crystals between the glass, it is available and has been for a while. THAT is when I learned. Guessing it is not possible is never a good guess. We are 3-D printing skin graphs, and soon ORGANS. We have amputees that can run faster than able bodied humans. We will eventually travel faster than light. At least relative to our current geometry.
Kirk 10389821 wrote:
There are particles that travel faster than light.
Last time I checked, there was no single particle universe faster than light.
Kirk 10389821 wrote:
I believe we will be able to develop a warp drive. Where we either travel using another dimension, or we effectively fold space.
That is correct; you are believing, which belongs to the realm of religion.
Kirk 10389821 wrote:
We will eventually travel faster than light.
Nothing that mass has will.
Kirk 10389821 wrote:
We have amputees that can run faster than able bodied humans.
Yes, but that does not mean that we will land on the sun, simply because "we have invented a lot". There are limits to what we can do, also in the future.
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Lately I am seeing articles from Futurist who say that this or that is impossible. A good example would be faster than light speed travel. I'm old. I've seen everything from floor model radios to 98 inch flat screen TVs with Netflix etc. I would be afraid to say any technological advance is impossible.
Leadership equals wrecked ship. If you think you are leading my look behind you. You are alone. If you think I am leading you, You are lost.
