America Thirst!
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
BudweiserProhibition... we're looking at you!
Before the 18th amendment was ratified, there were over 2000 breweries and distilleries in the US. After prohibition, only something like six remained like Coors, Miller, Busch, etc.... It took over 50 years to clean up that mess and get back to where we were in the 1910's.
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Good point.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Yes, but twenty years ago it was all but nonexistent.Ten years ago it was still not easy to come by good beer that wasn't imported,
Not true. Many of the largest craft brew breweries in the US today got their start in the 1980's (30+ years ago).
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
And Europeans in general usually don't visit the US often enough to be able change your reputation as makers of Bud Light and Coors. So live with it,
Let me clue you in - I've been to Europe a couple dozen times over the last 20 years and on occasion sampled some pretty bad local beers. X|
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Many of your micro breweries are also having quite some problems in my opinion.They have failed to understand the difference between more and better.Or they are just playing around like little kids with a new toy, I mean, Pumpkin beer! FFS!
I personally don't like Pumpkin beer but it's not a new phenomenon tied to new craft breweries. It's been around in some form or another for centuries.
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I suppose it would depend a lot on your definitions, but until the mid nineties there were a few hundred microbreweries in the us, with emphasis on micro. Most of them were brewpubs. If you didn't know where to find them they were nonexistent. After that the number of microbreweries were quite stable until 2010 when it really exploded. Not just in numbers but also in size. Source[^] The big explosion is happening NOW.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Let me clue you in - I've been to Europe a couple dozen times over the last 20 years and on occasion sampled some pretty bad local beers.
I don't doubt that, but I'm noticing your use of the word "occasion", I would personally extend it to often. :) But it's usually easy enough to find a palatable beer in most pubs in Europe. At least in northern Europe, in the south they tend to often prefer wine and then, for natural reasons, you might have a bit harder time to find the good stuff. I should by the way add that the US has had an almost identical development in beers/breweries as my own country, except for the prohibition of course.
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I dont know that it is *from* London, but thats is its name, and it is a damn good pint. It is also exported it is that good. And yes, UK beers, real ales, are very VERY good. They arent lagers though, and I have a VERY big place in my stomach for Stella, brewed in Leuven, many a night I have enjoyed a dre en dirtije of Stella! :) UK beers are flatter, less gassy, brewed naturally, and when the vat is opened, it is open to the air, and has to be drunk ini three days. It is a very old, and natural beer. Not at all like a lager: British real ale - Google Search[^]
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I dont know that it is *from* London, but thats is its name, and it is a damn good pint. It is also exported it is that good. And yes, UK beers, real ales, are very VERY good. They arent lagers though, and I have a VERY big place in my stomach for Stella, brewed in Leuven, many a night I have enjoyed a dre en dirtije of Stella! :) UK beers are flatter, less gassy, brewed naturally, and when the vat is opened, it is open to the air, and has to be drunk ini three days. It is a very old, and natural beer. Not at all like a lager: British real ale - Google Search[^]
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I dont know that it is *from* London, but thats is its name, and it is a damn good pint. It is also exported it is that good.
Coming from a country that is proud of its marmite, I'd prefer not to meet the 'pint'.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
And yes, UK beers, real ales, are very VERY good.
Never met one, but I promise to taste everything you send my way :-\
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Which leads to the wikipedia, which leads to some interesting mixtures the English have. A snakebite. A mother-in-law? A mickey mouse :laugh:
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I enjoyed many pints of it in Luzerne in Switzerland one night. :) Among my favourites are also Theakstons, Old Speckled Hen and Dogs Bollocks in that order. We do some great beers. Nothing like them in Europe.
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I enjoyed many pints of it in Luzerne in Switzerland one night. :) Among my favourites are also Theakstons, Old Speckled Hen and Dogs Bollocks in that order. We do some great beers. Nothing like them in Europe.
Allow me to add Black sheep, Trooper and John Bull to your list. But only when from the tap. In no particular order, it depends on my mood.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
If you want to taste the best beers in the world, you come to Limburg
Yes, because heineken is soooo good! X| X| X|
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Belgium beers in Belgium, German beers during Octoberfest
Can't argue with that -- but English beers go for full flavour without overdoing the alcohol content, so you can enjoy more of it, before reposing 'neath the mensa.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Dutch beer during Carnaval
X| X| X| Hertog Jan and some of the winter goats are palatable, but the dubbel & trippel beers (which have the best flavour) really rot your gut.
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Thank god everybody has your taste and only loves the beers you love... X| Oh my why do you guys always argue who got the best beer? Everyone has a different taste and the brits love their ale, the germans drink the wheatbeer and pilsener (okay north germans prefer lager), the belgians have their glorious triple hop. Arguing with Heineken is like you would say budweiser is the only US beer (which indeed is piss). And btw, if you can't handle the alc of a real beer (4,8%-5,4%) or a strong one (8,9%-13,X% ?) then just stop drinking.
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Thank god everybody has your taste and only loves the beers you love... X| Oh my why do you guys always argue who got the best beer? Everyone has a different taste and the brits love their ale, the germans drink the wheatbeer and pilsener (okay north germans prefer lager), the belgians have their glorious triple hop. Arguing with Heineken is like you would say budweiser is the only US beer (which indeed is piss). And btw, if you can't handle the alc of a real beer (4,8%-5,4%) or a strong one (8,9%-13,X% ?) then just stop drinking.
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HobbyProggy wrote:
And btw, if you can't handle the alc of a real beer (4,8%-5,4%) or a strong one (8,9%-13,X% ?)then just stop drinking.
The name's Mark, not Dave. If you only drink to get drunk, there are plenty of flavourless vodkas and rice wines.
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Even the Dutch don't like heineken.
HobbyProggy wrote:
And btw, if you can't handle the alc of a real beer (4,8%-5,4%) or a strong one (8,9%-13,X% ?)then just stop drinking.
The name's Mark, not Dave. If you only drink to get drunk, there are plenty of flavourless vodkas and rice wines.
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I was not only talking about Heineken, i guess nobody actually likes it (I don't like it) and i wasn't referring to getting drunk (it's hard to achieve with beer) asap but being able to drink some pints before you go black, actually if you take the Oktoberfest as a comparison most of the guys that dropped out pushed in 5-7 Maß. And a Beer with roughly 2,6% is a "Radler" (half a beer, the drivers drink in Germany).
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I was not only talking about Heineken, i guess nobody actually likes it (I don't like it) and i wasn't referring to getting drunk (it's hard to achieve with beer) asap but being able to drink some pints before you go black, actually if you take the Oktoberfest as a comparison most of the guys that dropped out pushed in 5-7 Maß. And a Beer with roughly 2,6% is a "Radler" (half a beer, the drivers drink in Germany).
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Oktoberfest
One of the nice things about living close to the German border is that I can hire a car here, leave it there, and take the train back. Getting hammered at your local is easy, but a really good p1ss up requires proper, military planning!
HobbyProggy wrote:
And a Beer with roughly 2,6% is a "Radler"
Undrinkable sugar-water, IMO. They add fruit flavours to it in NL, in an effort to make it drinkable as a soft drink, but it doesn't work.
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Allow me to add Black sheep, Trooper and John Bull to your list. But only when from the tap. In no particular order, it depends on my mood.
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Thats three I never drank!
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
I dont know that it is *from* London, but thats is its name, and it is a damn good pint. It is also exported it is that good.
Coming from a country that is proud of its marmite, I'd prefer not to meet the 'pint'.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
And yes, UK beers, real ales, are very VERY good.
Never met one, but I promise to taste everything you send my way :-\
Munchies_Matt wrote:
Which leads to the wikipedia, which leads to some interesting mixtures the English have. A snakebite. A mother-in-law? A mickey mouse :laugh:
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And we like funny names for them too. :)
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One of the best beers in the world, from London? I wouldn't place the English anywhere near the top 500 X| :~ If you want to taste the best beers in the world, you come to Limburg; you'd be tasting Belgium beers in Belgium, German beers during Octoberfest, Dutch beer during Carnaval.
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I dont know that it is *from* London, but thats is its name, and it is a damn good pint. It is also exported it is that good. And yes, UK beers, real ales, are very VERY good. They arent lagers though, and I have a VERY big place in my stomach for Stella, brewed in Leuven, many a night I have enjoyed a dre en dirtije of Stella! :) UK beers are flatter, less gassy, brewed naturally, and when the vat is opened, it is open to the air, and has to be drunk ini three days. It is a very old, and natural beer. Not at all like a lager: British real ale - Google Search[^]
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You can't get a decent beer there, not for love nor money.
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Stone Double Bastard. If you can't hang, that's fine; and expected.
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You can't get a decent beer there, not for love nor money.
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Nor coffee, strangely enough. In fact - nor tea either. I'm guessing those guys threw the tea in Boston harbour that time because they thought that was how it should be brewed.
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Stone Double Bastard. If you can't hang, that's fine; and expected.
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Nor coffee, strangely enough. In fact - nor tea either. I'm guessing those guys threw the tea in Boston harbour that time because they thought that was how it should be brewed.
I've been spoiled with tea, because I have access to super-duper high-quality Chinese teas, at a fraction of the normal prices. With coffee, though, I'll drink any old muck, as long as it's not decaf.
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Thats three I never drank!
You'd probably like Black sheep[^]. The brewery was founded by Paul Theakston (Yes, that one) The beers are less mainstream than Theakstons, but without going extreme or ridiculous.
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I can't at work >.> It will break the weak. It will see them driven before it, and it will hear the lamentations of the women. Is that a better review?
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