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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Anyone know of a better CMS out there right now besides good ol' WP? I've used Orchard before, and I'm not against using it again. However, I need to recommend one soon, and I'm curious to know if there's something out there cool. Keep in mind, the users I'd be recommending this too are familiar with WP already (from a user standpoint), so I'm inclined to keep with that. But, inquiring minds want to know what's what, and all...

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    Clinton Gallagher
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    concrete5 is emerging as a viable choice for PHP developers. A local development firm swears by it not at it but that's my opinion as an outsider just starting to learn and use WordPress despite its many problems.

    Clinton Gallagher

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    • R raddevus

      BlogEngine.net !!! Definitely. I've attempted to use multiple PHP-based ones (Drupal, WP, Joomla) and they are all annoying and unsecure IMO. I've incorporated BlogEngine.net in my main site ( C'YaPass: Forget All Your Passwords [^] if you want to check it out) BlogEngine.NET isn't perfect but it's much nicer than the others. It also incorporates flexible design so it looks quite good on mobile devices. Good luck.

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      KC CahabaGBA
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      Thanks for this! I've been kinda looking for something for my personal site to kick it up and reorganize it after it was hazord... this looks like a good starting point.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        WP sites are under continuous attack, 24/7. Even my own sites (I don't use WP) complain that they're sick of sending out 404s to requests for WP admin pages.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Bryian Tan
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        lol, same here, very annoying. Did you use Wordfence to monitor the traffic?

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        • J Jeremy Falcon

          Anyone know of a better CMS out there right now besides good ol' WP? I've used Orchard before, and I'm not against using it again. However, I need to recommend one soon, and I'm curious to know if there's something out there cool. Keep in mind, the users I'd be recommending this too are familiar with WP already (from a user standpoint), so I'm inclined to keep with that. But, inquiring minds want to know what's what, and all...

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          tc8596
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          I've used MODX several times for basic marketing sites. Very easy to use and it doesn't get in the way of your HTML and design. It's been around for quite a while and I've never had a problem with it.

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            Anyone know of a better CMS out there right now besides good ol' WP? I've used Orchard before, and I'm not against using it again. However, I need to recommend one soon, and I'm curious to know if there's something out there cool. Keep in mind, the users I'd be recommending this too are familiar with WP already (from a user standpoint), so I'm inclined to keep with that. But, inquiring minds want to know what's what, and all...

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            tc8596
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            I've used MODX several times for basic marketing sites. Very easy to use and it doesn't get in the way of your HTML and design. It's been around for quite a while and I've never had a problem with it.

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Anyone know of a better CMS out there right now besides good ol' WP? I've used Orchard before, and I'm not against using it again. However, I need to recommend one soon, and I'm curious to know if there's something out there cool. Keep in mind, the users I'd be recommending this too are familiar with WP already (from a user standpoint), so I'm inclined to keep with that. But, inquiring minds want to know what's what, and all...

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              DerekT P
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              NOT. I've found it to be unintuitive, virtually impossible to get it to do even basic stuff, there are a gazillion add-ons so trying to find the one that actually does what it says it does is a nightmare, and once you've actually got the functionality you want, the performance is abysmal - both at the server and on the client. There are plug-in conflicts to worry about (at the client) and then, if you're not careful, it goes and updates itself without asking! I do run one site in WP, which I did primarily so I could get some practical hands-on experience in the real world. As a result it virtually never changes, apart from the odd blog post. Which is understandable really; it's fine as a simple blogging engine, but there are precious few sites that really are just simple blogs any more, and increasingly people try and use it for things for which it's totally unsuited. It's not a CMS, it's a (fairly basic) blogging tool with a really clunky and limited editor.

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                NOT. I've found it to be unintuitive, virtually impossible to get it to do even basic stuff, there are a gazillion add-ons so trying to find the one that actually does what it says it does is a nightmare, and once you've actually got the functionality you want, the performance is abysmal - both at the server and on the client. There are plug-in conflicts to worry about (at the client) and then, if you're not careful, it goes and updates itself without asking! I do run one site in WP, which I did primarily so I could get some practical hands-on experience in the real world. As a result it virtually never changes, apart from the odd blog post. Which is understandable really; it's fine as a simple blogging engine, but there are precious few sites that really are just simple blogs any more, and increasingly people try and use it for things for which it's totally unsuited. It's not a CMS, it's a (fairly basic) blogging tool with a really clunky and limited editor.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                I'm not interested in dissing WP. I've done development for it for years. I'm more interested to see if there's any new cool stuff out there I don't know about.

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  Anyone know of a better CMS out there right now besides good ol' WP? I've used Orchard before, and I'm not against using it again. However, I need to recommend one soon, and I'm curious to know if there's something out there cool. Keep in mind, the users I'd be recommending this too are familiar with WP already (from a user standpoint), so I'm inclined to keep with that. But, inquiring minds want to know what's what, and all...

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                  Lost User
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                  Better? WP is more "popular"; so it is a "safer" recommendation ... unless you want to become "the IT guy".

                  "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Anyone know of a better CMS out there right now besides good ol' WP? I've used Orchard before, and I'm not against using it again. However, I need to recommend one soon, and I'm curious to know if there's something out there cool. Keep in mind, the users I'd be recommending this too are familiar with WP already (from a user standpoint), so I'm inclined to keep with that. But, inquiring minds want to know what's what, and all...

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                    Charles Programmer
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                    I've used Joomla and found it pretty easy, lots of pre-made stuff for it, although it has been several years (and versions,) since I looked at it.

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                    • B Bryian Tan

                      lol, same here, very annoying. Did you use Wordfence to monitor the traffic?

                      Bryian Tan

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      I tend to not announce what security stuff I use in open forums -- but I don't use wordpress, so wordfence is kinda not useful.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • R raddevus

                        BlogEngine.net !!! Definitely. I've attempted to use multiple PHP-based ones (Drupal, WP, Joomla) and they are all annoying and unsecure IMO. I've incorporated BlogEngine.net in my main site ( C'YaPass: Forget All Your Passwords [^] if you want to check it out) BlogEngine.NET isn't perfect but it's much nicer than the others. It also incorporates flexible design so it looks quite good on mobile devices. Good luck.

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                        mezgimo siulai
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                        :rolleyes:

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