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  • J Jon McKee

    I believe the reason it suggests to simplify the name is because string, int, etc do not require the System namespace include while String, Int32, etc still do. It can help clean up your namespace includes if that file doesn't use the System namespace for things other than simple types :thumbsup: I'm sure there are other reasons to suggest simplification but that's the one that immediately comes to mind. EDIT: Now that I think about it, in a way the simple names "decouple" the developer from the exact underlying type too. They could transparently change int to map to Int64 in the future, for example.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Well, if someone ports .net to an 8-bit OS...

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      When writing my C# code I was in the habit of using string (all lowercase) for strings declarations, etc. and String (capitalized) for method calls such as String.Empty and String.Format just as a sort of aide memoir that I was calling an object method. As I started to create String extension methods I reviewed this habit of mine and decided this was a pointless differentiation and switched to just using string all the time. At the same time I decided that my using Int32 for methods such as Int32.TryParse and just int in declarations, etc. was also pointless and perhaps confusing to others and so switched to using int all the time instead. It all compiles to the same IL code anyway so it was just a matter of style really. What do you think?

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      Lost User
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      I think I will be explicit if the (Win) API is requiring an Int32, and non-specific in the code where I need an int. One can change, the other will not.

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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      • L Lost User

        Great, if you think String and string and int and Int32 are comparable ....

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        Sander Rossel
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        They are, just read the documentation! Both implement IComparable and IComparable<T>. They implement some other interfaces too, like IEquatable and IConvertible.

        Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        • F Forogar

          When writing my C# code I was in the habit of using string (all lowercase) for strings declarations, etc. and String (capitalized) for method calls such as String.Empty and String.Format just as a sort of aide memoir that I was calling an object method. As I started to create String extension methods I reviewed this habit of mine and decided this was a pointless differentiation and switched to just using string all the time. At the same time I decided that my using Int32 for methods such as Int32.TryParse and just int in declarations, etc. was also pointless and perhaps confusing to others and so switched to using int all the time instead. It all compiles to the same IL code anyway so it was just a matter of style really. What do you think?

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          Mark_Wallace
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          Given all the confusion, I think I'll just override String and string, in future, with an array (which is all a string is meant to be, anyway).

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Cornelius Henning wrote:

            I believe at some point in the past this was the case??

            Nope, never. It's just an alias.

            string
            Visual Studio .NET 2003
            The string type represents a string of Unicode characters. string is an alias for System.String in the .NET Framework.

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            Slacker007
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            :thumbsup:

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            • F Forogar

              When writing my C# code I was in the habit of using string (all lowercase) for strings declarations, etc. and String (capitalized) for method calls such as String.Empty and String.Format just as a sort of aide memoir that I was calling an object method. As I started to create String extension methods I reviewed this habit of mine and decided this was a pointless differentiation and switched to just using string all the time. At the same time I decided that my using Int32 for methods such as Int32.TryParse and just int in declarations, etc. was also pointless and perhaps confusing to others and so switched to using int all the time instead. It all compiles to the same IL code anyway so it was just a matter of style really. What do you think?

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Marc Clifton
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              What I find amusing is that VS2015 says that String.Empty can be simplified to string.Empty Riiight. Marc

              V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                They are, just read the documentation! Both implement IComparable and IComparable<T>. They implement some other interfaces too, like IEquatable and IConvertible.

                Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                Lost User
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                I did not mean this Kind of comparable (IComparable etc) :-D I meant compare the two Scenarios :laugh:

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  What I find amusing is that VS2015 says that String.Empty can be simplified to string.Empty Riiight. Marc

                  V.A.P.O.R.ware - Visual Assisted Programming / Organizational Representation Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                  Lost User
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                  Indeed a kind amusing. But if you claim this to MS the Chance is there that a over all "empty I can be everything" will be defined ... and after they will make c# a Java language. No, please not :laugh:

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                  • L Lost User

                    I did not mean this Kind of comparable (IComparable etc) :-D I meant compare the two Scenarios :laugh:

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    I know what you meant, I just to chose to interpret it differently ;p

                    Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      I know what you meant, I just to chose to interpret it differently ;p

                      Best, Sander arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript SQL Server for C# Developers Succinctly Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                      Lost User
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                      So, this is the way you making fun of an old man ;P

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                      • N NickPace

                        Switch to Java. Problem solved

                        -NP Never underestimate the creativity of the end-user

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                        Forogar
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                        That's liked curing a headache by shooting yourself in the head!

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        • F Forogar

                          When writing my C# code I was in the habit of using string (all lowercase) for strings declarations, etc. and String (capitalized) for method calls such as String.Empty and String.Format just as a sort of aide memoir that I was calling an object method. As I started to create String extension methods I reviewed this habit of mine and decided this was a pointless differentiation and switched to just using string all the time. At the same time I decided that my using Int32 for methods such as Int32.TryParse and just int in declarations, etc. was also pointless and perhaps confusing to others and so switched to using int all the time instead. It all compiles to the same IL code anyway so it was just a matter of style really. What do you think?

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          hooodaticus
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                          For what it's worth, the C# style guidelines on MSDN say to use the lower case.

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                          • N NickPace

                            Switch to Java. Problem solved

                            -NP Never underestimate the creativity of the end-user

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                            hooodaticus
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                            Actually, that's where the problems begin. Lower and upper-case primitives in Java do completely different things.

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                              When writing my C# code I was in the habit of using string (all lowercase) for strings declarations, etc. and String (capitalized) for method calls such as String.Empty and String.Format just as a sort of aide memoir that I was calling an object method. As I started to create String extension methods I reviewed this habit of mine and decided this was a pointless differentiation and switched to just using string all the time. At the same time I decided that my using Int32 for methods such as Int32.TryParse and just int in declarations, etc. was also pointless and perhaps confusing to others and so switched to using int all the time instead. It all compiles to the same IL code anyway so it was just a matter of style really. What do you think?

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              obermd
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                              It's good for starting religious style arguments over code style.

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                                It's good for starting religious style arguments over code style.

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                                Forogar
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                                True. I didn't intend to but it seems I have. I just wanted to have a gentle Friday afternoon chat about code style... I should have known better! :doh:

                                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                • B Bryian Tan

                                  If the usage is correct, that make me think why the VS Intellisense still display "name can be simplified", "Show potential fixes", IDE0001 C# Name can be simplified. Isn't that "Show potential fixes" = there is a bug and here is the potential fix? After all VS is Microsoft product right? ;P ;P

                                  Bryian Tan

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                                  thewazz
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                                  i'm getting "name can be simplified" since switching to VS2015 Community. (change String to string.)

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