Backlash after Primark pulls 'fantastically offensive' Walking Dead T-shirt
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WiganLatics wrote:
Catch a n**ger by the toe. So they may have a point.
I heard that, but like I said, have never been able to verify it. Seems hard to believe that was the original rhyme and then somehow became a childhood thing all over the country. I wonder if the South adapted it as their own version. But I believe most people have no clue about it's supposed racial origin. Perhaps it would be better if everyone just moved on from it.
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RyanDev wrote:
But I believe most people have no clue about it's supposed racial origin
I think you're probably right about that. I'm not certain as to where it originated from, but as I think the racist version is the original and it was softened as opinions changed. Many things that would previously have been acceptable for children are no longer considered acceptable. I'm not certain as to whether it started in the South or whether the South adopted it because of the language. But either way it seems to have racist undertones from the beginning. Although tbh when I saw the T-shirt, I didn't really notice the significance of the rhyme until I read the article. It was the bat and barbed wire that seemed more disturbing, regardless of potential racial connotations.
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I live in the heart of the South, Atlanta. I'm almost 51 and I was taught that rhyme with "catch a Tiger by the toe". I was an adult before I knew about the offensive version With all this climate change it's amazing how many snowflakes are out there.
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I live in the heart of the South, Atlanta. I'm almost 51 and I was taught that rhyme with "catch a Tiger by the toe". I was an adult before I knew about the offensive version With all this climate change it's amazing how many snowflakes are out there.
MarkTJohnson wrote:
"catch a Tiger by the toe".
I imagine that would piss off tigers, especially those zany, knuckleheaded literate ones, you'd have to pull it off the shelves in any case.
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I live in the heart of the South, Atlanta. I'm almost 51 and I was taught that rhyme with "catch a Tiger by the toe". I was an adult before I knew about the offensive version With all this climate change it's amazing how many snowflakes are out there.
I'm 58 and was born and brought up in Liverpool in the UK, and I remember th N***er version from my childhood, so it was not exclusively an American rhyme. Whn picking someone to be on your team it was used interchangeably with "one potato, two potato"
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I'm 58 and was born and brought up in Liverpool in the UK, and I remember th N***er version from my childhood, so it was not exclusively an American rhyme. Whn picking someone to be on your team it was used interchangeably with "one potato, two potato"
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Chris Quinn wrote:
"one potato, two potato"
That's a heartless reference to the Irish potato famine, you racist! Where's the manager? I want to see the manager!
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WiganLatics wrote:
Catch a n**ger by the toe. So they may have a point.
I heard that, but like I said, have never been able to verify it. Seems hard to believe that was the original rhyme and then somehow became a childhood thing all over the country. I wonder if the South adapted it as their own version. But I believe most people have no clue about it's supposed racial origin. Perhaps it would be better if everyone just moved on from it.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Eeny, meeny, miny, moe - Wikipedia[^] The line was included in "the most common version among American schoolchildren in 1888". In the UK, it was the most common version between 1935 and the late twentieth century, thanks to Rudyard Kipling. But it does seem rather silly to call the first line of a children's rhyme which once had a version that used a racism term in a subsequent line "racist". :wtf: And the baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire is taken directly from the show. As far as I'm aware, it has absolutely no relation to "the practice of assaulting black people". :doh: However, to be safe, maybe we should stick to the Yan tan tethera[^]. :)
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I hate to say it, but the reference is offensive to Ginger people, after all, that's who ended up getting Lucille at the end of the rhyme. Obviously him and his wife haven't watched season 7 of TWD.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Ginger people
Unless you're one of them, that's offensive! Let Tim explain[^]. :)
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Eeny, meeny, miny, moe - Wikipedia[^] The line was included in "the most common version among American schoolchildren in 1888". In the UK, it was the most common version between 1935 and the late twentieth century, thanks to Rudyard Kipling. But it does seem rather silly to call the first line of a children's rhyme which once had a version that used a racism term in a subsequent line "racist". :wtf: And the baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire is taken directly from the show. As far as I'm aware, it has absolutely no relation to "the practice of assaulting black people". :doh: However, to be safe, maybe we should stick to the Yan tan tethera[^]. :)
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Richard Deeming wrote:
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In April 2016, the popular American TV show The Walking Dead used the rhyme in the final episode of season six, in which the character Negan uses it to choose who to kill.
:wtf: :wtf: So, that line was already in the show and now the tshirt is what is upsetting people almost a year later? Surely this must have been a story back in 2016 too. Fortunately, I don't remember it being a story.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Chris Quinn wrote:
"one potato, two potato"
That's a heartless reference to the Irish potato famine, you racist! Where's the manager? I want to see the manager!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I'll have you know that I'm entitled to an Irish passport as my little old granny was from Waterford. As Jimmy Rabitte said in "The Commitments": >Do you not get it, lads? The Irish are the blacks of Europe. And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud: I'm black and I'm proud.
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Backlash after Primark pulls 'fantastically offensive' Walking Dead T-shirt - BBC Newsbeat[^] I despair sometimes. Do people like this look to be offended? He's more concerned with the image on the t-shirt than the fact it was made in a sweat shop somewhere.
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The guy is a methodist minister. Religious fanatics are supposed to be offended by everything.
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Richard Deeming wrote:
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In April 2016, the popular American TV show The Walking Dead used the rhyme in the final episode of season six, in which the character Negan uses it to choose who to kill.
:wtf: :wtf: So, that line was already in the show and now the tshirt is what is upsetting people almost a year later? Surely this must have been a story back in 2016 too. Fortunately, I don't remember it being a story.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
The version in the show used "tiger": The Walking Dead - Negan - Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.. You are IT! - YouTube[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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The version in the show used "tiger": The Walking Dead - Negan - Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.. You are IT! - YouTube[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Richard Deeming wrote:
he version in the show used "tiger":
Of course it did. Can you imagine if it had used the N word?
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'll have you know that I'm entitled to an Irish passport as my little old granny was from Waterford. As Jimmy Rabitte said in "The Commitments": >Do you not get it, lads? The Irish are the blacks of Europe. And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud: I'm black and I'm proud.
========================================================= I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka. =========================================================
Good movie. I'll have to dig the DVD out, and watch it again.
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When I moved to the South that was the first time I ever heard that the rhyme had racial background. I don't know if it is true or not, but growing up on the west coast people said it all the time and never once heard that it had racial background. If it truly does have a racial background then I see no problem with them pulling it.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I remember clearly as a child it being said with many different "endings", but the one used most often was the n-word one. So, yeah, racist.
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I remember clearly as a child it being said with many different "endings", but the one used most often was the n-word one. So, yeah, racist.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOzSo, yeah, racist.
One man's racist is another man's nursery rhyme. :laugh:
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOzSo, yeah, racist.
One man's racist is another man's nursery rhyme. :laugh:
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
You don't know how true that is.
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I live in the heart of the South, Atlanta. I'm almost 51 and I was taught that rhyme with "catch a Tiger by the toe". I was an adult before I knew about the offensive version With all this climate change it's amazing how many snowflakes are out there.
wow, a double-whammy-entendre. Good on you sir!
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Eeny, meeny, miny, moe - Wikipedia[^] The line was included in "the most common version among American schoolchildren in 1888". In the UK, it was the most common version between 1935 and the late twentieth century, thanks to Rudyard Kipling. But it does seem rather silly to call the first line of a children's rhyme which once had a version that used a racism term in a subsequent line "racist". :wtf: And the baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire is taken directly from the show. As far as I'm aware, it has absolutely no relation to "the practice of assaulting black people". :doh: However, to be safe, maybe we should stick to the Yan tan tethera[^]. :)
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Richard Deeming wrote:
As far as I'm aware, it has absolutely no relation to "the practice of assaulting black people". :doh:
Well clearly the person who said it thinks about assaulting black people; the association would not have been made otherwise. And that poor man should not be subjected to imagery that makes him want to assault black people, because that's certainly not a him problem. He's being upstanding by pointing out how the rest of the world is trying to drive him to violence. :rolleyes:
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People bitch about Lady Antebellum's name Ten Little N-words was named something stupid (the novel, in case you didn't know) I can no longer say stop to describe the valve tap without getting censored FFS. Guess they figured it'd cost less to pull the "offensive" stuff quickly. ... and F-word appeared in my Google news feed, from Gizmodo's headline about something. Didn't want to click it at work. The swear police are police are surely up in arms by now
When the book and play Ten Little N boys was written, the word N was not derogatory in Britain. Hence its use in the rhyme and in 'Eeny, etc.' News of the racial tension in the USA, and the influx of West Indian migrants, caused it to be deprecated and censored. The fabric colour N Brown was still in use into the 1960s.
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The guy is a methodist minister. Religious fanatics are supposed to be offended by everything.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Religious fanatics are supposed to be offended by everything and anyone.
FTFY
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