Are you a coffee snob?
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
Coffee is mostly coffee. Am I not a coffee snob. Most of the time, I buy regular vacuum sealed coffee (cimo, Illy...) from the supermarket for the office espresso machine. I also buy, when I go to a coffee shop, 3rd wave coffee (Anchored, Metropolis, Parallel...) for said office espresso machine. Is there a difference, yes; but like in most things like this, it is subtle, especially if you add sugar and/or milk. I assume Both your Starbucks and Folgers are generic ground coffee; and will taste like it; GF bought a keurig thing and the coffee is just OK drip coffee.
I'd rather be phishing!
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
I do enjoy coffee but not really a coffee snob. I always find the people who are coffee snobs are also the people who, when discussing steak, can't have it anything but rare\blue and can't simply say "I like it rare" but instead have to have a soliloquy of analogy; "If the stake has been more than pushed passed a candle on a roller-skate then I'm sending it back...there is no point in eating any steak that couldn't be revived by a good vet. You've ruined it unless it's only been heated by a 40W lightbulb swung from a cat's tail....." "I'll have mine medium, thanks."
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We don't have Starbucks (well, actually we have only one, fairly recent) in Italy and to tell you the truth, it would be useless here. We have hundreds of cafès and if someone is on the move he will take a coffee directly at the counter (very common) in less than two minutes instead of taking away. It usually costs around 1€ that way, and pastries too, so it's cheap. While I'm in London though Starbucks is a blessing: London requires an awful lot of walking and while being slightly warmer than the parts of Italy I come from it's also freaking windy and damp. Being able to keep on moving while holding a moderately sized cup of hot coffee is a real blessing from the skies - most of the time I'm not even interested in the coffee itself but anything warm would do. The usual italian way doesn't help as much since the coffee is extremely shorter and the few minutes in the heated cafè are never enough. Also the cities are smaller and more cramped so there is less to walk.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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Not a fan of starbucks, or its fanboi following. Anyone who orders a "latte macchiato" obviously doesn't know anything about either coffee or the Italian language.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I go straight for the "caramel latte" or "mocha". Espresso in the UK (the only place I visited enough to feel at ease when I'm there) is usually terrible so there's no point in taking it therefore I go straight for the "exotic" stuff. And latte macchiato actually exists now in Italy, it's a large glass of warm milk with just a tint of coffee in it - basically what in Starbucks passes for regular coffee. It's one of the least ordered things but it does exist.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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God, but I miss bomboloni breakfasts!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
And I elephanting need to stop those before I become an elephanting pachyderm myself. Starbucks pastries are very good (but expensive) - I'm hooked on cinnamon buns.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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I go straight for the "caramel latte" or "mocha". Espresso in the UK (the only place I visited enough to feel at ease when I'm there) is usually terrible so there's no point in taking it therefore I go straight for the "exotic" stuff. And latte macchiato actually exists now in Italy, it's a large glass of warm milk with just a tint of coffee in it - basically what in Starbucks passes for regular coffee. It's one of the least ordered things but it does exist.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
den2k88 wrote:
Espresso in the UK (the only place I visited enough to feel at ease when I'm there) is usually terrible so there's no point in taking it
You've got that right. One of the items on my "plus" list for not living in the UK is the espresso.
den2k88 wrote:
it's a large glass of warm milk with just a tint of coffee in it
So it's a macchiato rovescio? At least that makes more sense -- "milky coffee tainted with milk" doesn't.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
Go find an empty Starbucks coffee container and dump the Folgers coffee in it.
Bryian Tan
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Go find an empty Starbucks coffee container and dump the Folgers coffee in it.
Bryian Tan
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
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den2k88 wrote:
Espresso in the UK (the only place I visited enough to feel at ease when I'm there) is usually terrible so there's no point in taking it
You've got that right. One of the items on my "plus" list for not living in the UK is the espresso.
den2k88 wrote:
it's a large glass of warm milk with just a tint of coffee in it
So it's a macchiato rovescio? At least that makes more sense -- "milky coffee tainted with milk" doesn't.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
So it's a macchiato rovescio?
More like an oversixed cappuccino with an undersized espresso as the coffee base. Usually it's only referred as "latte", so if you actually wish to drink simple plain milk you should specify "latte bianco" else they will drop coffee in (and my girlfriend hates it since she doesn't drink coffee). When someone says that he/she doesn't drink coffee it's looked strangely upon, like some sort of disease, even worst that beeing a teetotaler! My girlfirend doesn't like alcohol nor coffee and she's basically considered a freak :D BTW, I took an espresso at Radisson hotel in London, all extra-luxury and 4£ for a coffee. It tasted like s**t. Worst experience ever. I needed to stay awake for other 14 hours and it was 9:30 pm, so I coughed the dough anyway. Never again.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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I do enjoy coffee but not really a coffee snob. I always find the people who are coffee snobs are also the people who, when discussing steak, can't have it anything but rare\blue and can't simply say "I like it rare" but instead have to have a soliloquy of analogy; "If the stake has been more than pushed passed a candle on a roller-skate then I'm sending it back...there is no point in eating any steak that couldn't be revived by a good vet. You've ruined it unless it's only been heated by a 40W lightbulb swung from a cat's tail....." "I'll have mine medium, thanks."
I get soliloquist only when the coffee is burned - that is usually fault of the person who made it (even if some coffees are toasted too much at the source) or when it's too acid. And it happens way too often, even in Italy (where everyone and their dog will claim there is no better coffee. Bulls*.)
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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snorkie wrote:
Starbucks coffee
Oxymoron ;P I kind of like Starbucks, unlike most of italians, but I can usually spot the differences between coffees. Starbucks has the advantage of using ludicrous amount of milk and sweet creams so that every fallacy in the coffee is drown - in fact it doesn't even need to be sugared to be drank comfortably. With real espresso or moka coffee you end up feeling the differences much more markedly, even between different bars that use the same coffee (temperature, grounduing and set pressure of the machine change a lot).
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
den2k88 wrote:
Starbucks has the advantage of using ludicrous amount of milk and sweet creams so that every fallacy in the coffee is drown - in fact it doesn't even need to be sugared to be drank comfortably.
I don't know what's up with British coffee - it always tastes bitter to me. When I go to France, their coffee always tastes so much better - like you say, it's enjoyable even without milk or sugar. Have you come across any coffee in the UK that's anything close to good (like in France)?
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
US coffee isnt coffee, it is unpleasantly roasted. Try any southern european coffee (espresso), or Turkish, if you want to taste simply great coffee.
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den2k88 wrote:
Starbucks has the advantage of using ludicrous amount of milk and sweet creams so that every fallacy in the coffee is drown - in fact it doesn't even need to be sugared to be drank comfortably.
I don't know what's up with British coffee - it always tastes bitter to me. When I go to France, their coffee always tastes so much better - like you say, it's enjoyable even without milk or sugar. Have you come across any coffee in the UK that's anything close to good (like in France)?
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
Brent Jenkins wrote:
Have you come across any coffee in the UK that's anything close to good (like in France)?
In central London there is Waterstones, an enormous bookshop. It has both a cafè and a restaurant... the cafè makes a passable espresso (but I only took it twice in several years). In the UK I usually binge on Starbucks given that it's an "exotic" experience for people who don't have that shop chain - in fact they're usually chock full of italians :D I was to try "Cafè Nero" but the pastries weren't interesting so I got out and sought a Starbucks. Cafè Costa is good but I only took a cappuccino once and that's very hard to elephant up - it takes an unusual amount of talent to make a bad cappuccino.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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US coffee isnt coffee, it is unpleasantly roasted. Try any southern european coffee (espresso), or Turkish, if you want to taste simply great coffee.
Agreed. A good Turkish coffee after lunch really hits the spot!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Agreed. A good Turkish coffee after lunch really hits the spot!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Havent had one in a while, but they are damned good. :)
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
My favorite has a bit of a long name, "the one that's on sale".
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
As I am wont to say, going to Starbucks for coffee is akin to going to prison for sex. You'll get what you ask for but not what you want!
veni bibi saltavi
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My coworkers were complaining because we ran out of Starbucks coffee and are now drinking Folgers. I can't taste much of a difference between the two and its free! Personally I would rather be hooked on the cheap stuff anyway!
Hogan
To reply to your question, yes I am a coffee snob [passim]. I have a portable espresso machine on my desk and I can have as much real coffee as I want. :java:
veni bibi saltavi
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While the snobs would be able to tell the difference, it would be entertaining to hear them complain, or enlightening if they didn't!
Hogan
That would be a good case study. :-D
Bryian Tan