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  • N Nelek

    :doh: :doh: :doh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I have bought a new Laptop with Win10 already inside... So far is working fine as well... because I didn't connect it to the internet yet.

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    Mark_Wallace
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    You can safely connect it to the Internet; just don't switch it on.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    • G GenJerDan

      Last night I noticed that Edge was missing. Then I noticed the Store was missing. Did all the steps MS says to do to fix things like that....nope. Still missing. Ah, well, I need to reinstall anyway, since I got a new motherboard with an M.2 drive I'll use for "C:". But that's not the point.

      We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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      pt1401
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      > Last night I noticed that Edge was missing. > Then I noticed the Store was missing. And that's a bad thing??? :laugh:

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      • R raddevus

        This is something like the 4th time I've rebooted tonight. First time, tried to unlock my computer and it wouldn't stop showing the login screen. Nothing. Power off. 2nd time, tried to start Chrome. 100% disk utilization. Nothing. Powered off. 3rd time, 100% disk utilization. nothing. powered off. 4th time, tried to start Chrome again. Nothing. Powered off. I'm using MS Edge to post this. Is there a MS Update going on? Can't tell. Just more Win10 shenanigans I guess. Edit I attempted to start Chrome again and disk (HDD) went to 100% and at that point I cannot regain control of the machine again. Had to power down and restart. Also, earlier I was able to just barely get to TaskList but I couldn't kill Chrome. Edit 2 (2017.03.03) I found this report from someone else. Same experience I'm having:

        Light XPressions said:

        I kind of have the same problem since today My google wont start properly it just freezes my whole computer it takes forever so I ended up crashing the computer I uninstalled twice does not help I am using windows 10 too.

        Google Groups: Chrome wont' start[^]

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        dandy72
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        Ummm...your solution for disk utilization stuck at 100% is to reboot...twice? :doh: At the very least, launch Resource Monitor and try to establish what files are being accessed. Hopefully that should give you *some* idea as to what process is causing that.

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        • R raddevus

          Garth J Lancaster wrote:

          everytime I think 'ok, Im going to take the plunge and update to Win10' .. I see something like this :(

          Yeah, it's true. I've checked fragmentation on my disk. No problems there. I even ran c:\>chkdsk all good on that front. I've downloaded Kaspersky virus trial since machine is acting so odd. Scanning now, but I really don't think that is it either. Well, unless Win10 _is_ a virus. :~

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          Member 11683251
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          raddevus wrote:

          Well, unless Win10 _is_ a virus. :~

          By now I thought this was established fact or at the minimal for it to be considered malware. X| There are good things about it, several even yet I still hold off on upgrading because I have enough trouble with w10 at work.

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          • G Garth J Lancaster

            everytime I think 'ok, Im going to take the plunge and update to Win10' .. I see something like this :(

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            Lost User
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            Please allow me to offer you the counter point: While I sympathize with the OP and other people who struggle with Win 10, I have used it from the start, updated it regularly and only use Edge. I have had very few issues in more than a year. I did disable pop-up ads in Edge and I further suppress ads with the Windows HOSTS file. So as far as I am concerned, it is humming along nicely. :)

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              Ummm...your solution for disk utilization stuck at 100% is to reboot...twice? :doh: At the very least, launch Resource Monitor and try to establish what files are being accessed. Hopefully that should give you *some* idea as to what process is causing that.

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              raddevus
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              Once Chrome started, I could not do anything. Nothing. And it's not CPU (it's an i7), instead it is 100% disk utilization. I wrote a program that uses FileSystem Watcher so yes I was watching every file being read and written. I've not seen anything like this before because like I said the entire machine just sits once this happens.

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              • F F ES Sitecore

                It's about time Microsoft got their act together and fixed Chrome! "Doctor I hurt everywhere, I hurt here...here...here...here...here" "That's because your finger is broken"

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                raddevus
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                :laugh:

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                • L Lost User

                  Your issues aren't really with Win 10 though are they. It appears the problem is with your Chrome installation at least 3 of 5 reboots. Have you run H/W test, RAM, graphics etc?

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                  raddevus
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                  I believe you are correct. It may well be Chrome now that it has caused this problem every time I start it. I finally just gave up for the evening and now am at work so I'll have to see what Kaspersky says tonight and probably uninstall / install Chrome.

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    Microsoft + google = the perfect combination. It's bound to end in tears.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    raddevus
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                    Two big dumb giants fighting for my computer. :)

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                    • G GenJerDan

                      Last night I noticed that Edge was missing. Then I noticed the Store was missing. Did all the steps MS says to do to fix things like that....nope. Still missing. Ah, well, I need to reinstall anyway, since I got a new motherboard with an M.2 drive I'll use for "C:". But that's not the point.

                      We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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                      raddevus
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                      GenJerDan wrote:

                      But that's not the point.

                      Right. We want to know why things change. Who is controlling / effecting our hardware?

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                      • R raddevus

                        Once Chrome started, I could not do anything. Nothing. And it's not CPU (it's an i7), instead it is 100% disk utilization. I wrote a program that uses FileSystem Watcher so yes I was watching every file being read and written. I've not seen anything like this before because like I said the entire machine just sits once this happens.

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                        dandy72
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                        Where in my post was I inferring I had mistaken 100% disk usage for 100% CPU usage? What did your file system watcher program reveal? I suspect it wouldn't have access to some system files that Resource Manager would.

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                          Where in my post was I inferring I had mistaken 100% disk usage for 100% CPU usage? What did your file system watcher program reveal? I suspect it wouldn't have access to some system files that Resource Manager would.

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                          raddevus
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                          dandy72 wrote:

                          Where in my post was I inferring I had mistaken 100% disk usage for 100% CPU usage?

                          I was just mentioning the other details.

                          dandy72 wrote:

                          What did your file system watcher program reveal? I suspect it wouldn't have access to some system files that Resource Manager would.

                          It runs as Admin and has access to everything. I mean everything. Even files that I cannot actually edit however, again as I said once this problem occurs I cannot switch to any other program. Nothing. It could be a graphics problem like the desktop just isn't redrawing so I can't tell if anything is happening. Had that problem way back on NT 4 years ago. Thought the machine was locked but actually the graphics weren't being redrawn. Also, I updated the original post with an edit and I found someone else mentioning the same problem with Chrome.

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                          • R raddevus

                            This is something like the 4th time I've rebooted tonight. First time, tried to unlock my computer and it wouldn't stop showing the login screen. Nothing. Power off. 2nd time, tried to start Chrome. 100% disk utilization. Nothing. Powered off. 3rd time, 100% disk utilization. nothing. powered off. 4th time, tried to start Chrome again. Nothing. Powered off. I'm using MS Edge to post this. Is there a MS Update going on? Can't tell. Just more Win10 shenanigans I guess. Edit I attempted to start Chrome again and disk (HDD) went to 100% and at that point I cannot regain control of the machine again. Had to power down and restart. Also, earlier I was able to just barely get to TaskList but I couldn't kill Chrome. Edit 2 (2017.03.03) I found this report from someone else. Same experience I'm having:

                            Light XPressions said:

                            I kind of have the same problem since today My google wont start properly it just freezes my whole computer it takes forever so I ended up crashing the computer I uninstalled twice does not help I am using windows 10 too.

                            Google Groups: Chrome wont' start[^]

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                            PeejayAdams
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                            I may be a .NET developer but my next PC's going to be a Mac.

                            Slogans aren't solutions.

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                            • P PeejayAdams

                              I may be a .NET developer but my next PC's going to be a Mac.

                              Slogans aren't solutions.

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                              Lost User
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                              It's getting better with .NET Core support and Rider by JetBrains.. I've been using it on Mac and Ubuntu without too many issues. Won't be long until we're all programming .NET on whatever platform we want :)

                              Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                              • R raddevus

                                This is something like the 4th time I've rebooted tonight. First time, tried to unlock my computer and it wouldn't stop showing the login screen. Nothing. Power off. 2nd time, tried to start Chrome. 100% disk utilization. Nothing. Powered off. 3rd time, 100% disk utilization. nothing. powered off. 4th time, tried to start Chrome again. Nothing. Powered off. I'm using MS Edge to post this. Is there a MS Update going on? Can't tell. Just more Win10 shenanigans I guess. Edit I attempted to start Chrome again and disk (HDD) went to 100% and at that point I cannot regain control of the machine again. Had to power down and restart. Also, earlier I was able to just barely get to TaskList but I couldn't kill Chrome. Edit 2 (2017.03.03) I found this report from someone else. Same experience I'm having:

                                Light XPressions said:

                                I kind of have the same problem since today My google wont start properly it just freezes my whole computer it takes forever so I ended up crashing the computer I uninstalled twice does not help I am using windows 10 too.

                                Google Groups: Chrome wont' start[^]

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                                Lost User
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                                I had a similar issue on Windows 7 once with Chrome. I had to completely uninstall it and then install the latest version (rather than just upgrading it). Might not be the same as your problem, but it might be worth a go as it's pretty quick to do.

                                Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                                • D den2k88

                                  I used Win ME without any trouble whatsoever. Sometimes it happens.

                                  * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                                  kmoorevs
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                                  den2k88 wrote:

                                  I used Win ME without any trouble whatsoever

                                  Ah, the memories! My first laptop came with ME. It would blue screen 2 or 3 times a day, especially when working in Visual Studio 6. It taught me to code in short bursts and save frequently! Finally, a friend introduced me to W2K and the nightmares were over. :) I liked W2K so much that I mostly skipped XP.

                                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                  • R raddevus

                                    This is something like the 4th time I've rebooted tonight. First time, tried to unlock my computer and it wouldn't stop showing the login screen. Nothing. Power off. 2nd time, tried to start Chrome. 100% disk utilization. Nothing. Powered off. 3rd time, 100% disk utilization. nothing. powered off. 4th time, tried to start Chrome again. Nothing. Powered off. I'm using MS Edge to post this. Is there a MS Update going on? Can't tell. Just more Win10 shenanigans I guess. Edit I attempted to start Chrome again and disk (HDD) went to 100% and at that point I cannot regain control of the machine again. Had to power down and restart. Also, earlier I was able to just barely get to TaskList but I couldn't kill Chrome. Edit 2 (2017.03.03) I found this report from someone else. Same experience I'm having:

                                    Light XPressions said:

                                    I kind of have the same problem since today My google wont start properly it just freezes my whole computer it takes forever so I ended up crashing the computer I uninstalled twice does not help I am using windows 10 too.

                                    Google Groups: Chrome wont' start[^]

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                                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                    How does this having anything to do with Win10? It sounds like it's a problem with the latest Google Chrome update.

                                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                      How does this having anything to do with Win10? It sounds like it's a problem with the latest Google Chrome update.

                                      #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                                      raddevus
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                                      Well, I didn't know at the time. :-O And, I am running Windows 10 and... ... I love to blame Win10!!! :laugh:

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        I had a similar issue on Windows 7 once with Chrome. I had to completely uninstall it and then install the latest version (rather than just upgrading it). Might not be the same as your problem, but it might be worth a go as it's pretty quick to do.

                                        Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                                        raddevus
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                                        I think you are right and will do that later when I get home.

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                                        • P PeejayAdams

                                          I may be a .NET developer but my next PC's going to be a Mac.

                                          Slogans aren't solutions.

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                                          raddevus
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                                          PeejayAdams wrote:

                                          I may be a .NET developer but my next PC's going to be a Mac.

                                          And you'll still be able to dev .NET apps I guess since VStudio is going to be everywhere.

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