Win10 Again (sigh)
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Last night I noticed that Edge was missing. Then I noticed the Store was missing. Did all the steps MS says to do to fix things like that....nope. Still missing. Ah, well, I need to reinstall anyway, since I got a new motherboard with an M.2 drive I'll use for "C:". But that's not the point.
We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.
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Once Chrome started, I could not do anything. Nothing. And it's not CPU (it's an i7), instead it is 100% disk utilization. I wrote a program that uses FileSystem Watcher so yes I was watching every file being read and written. I've not seen anything like this before because like I said the entire machine just sits once this happens.
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Where in my post was I inferring I had mistaken 100% disk usage for 100% CPU usage? What did your file system watcher program reveal? I suspect it wouldn't have access to some system files that Resource Manager would.
dandy72 wrote:
Where in my post was I inferring I had mistaken 100% disk usage for 100% CPU usage?
I was just mentioning the other details.
dandy72 wrote:
What did your file system watcher program reveal? I suspect it wouldn't have access to some system files that Resource Manager would.
It runs as Admin and has access to everything. I mean everything. Even files that I cannot actually edit however, again as I said once this problem occurs I cannot switch to any other program. Nothing. It could be a graphics problem like the desktop just isn't redrawing so I can't tell if anything is happening. Had that problem way back on NT 4 years ago. Thought the machine was locked but actually the graphics weren't being redrawn. Also, I updated the original post with an edit and I found someone else mentioning the same problem with Chrome.
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This is something like the 4th time I've rebooted tonight. First time, tried to unlock my computer and it wouldn't stop showing the login screen. Nothing. Power off. 2nd time, tried to start Chrome. 100% disk utilization. Nothing. Powered off. 3rd time, 100% disk utilization. nothing. powered off. 4th time, tried to start Chrome again. Nothing. Powered off. I'm using MS Edge to post this. Is there a MS Update going on? Can't tell. Just more Win10 shenanigans I guess. Edit I attempted to start Chrome again and disk (HDD) went to 100% and at that point I cannot regain control of the machine again. Had to power down and restart. Also, earlier I was able to just barely get to TaskList but I couldn't kill Chrome. Edit 2 (2017.03.03) I found this report from someone else. Same experience I'm having:
Light XPressions said:
I kind of have the same problem since today My google wont start properly it just freezes my whole computer it takes forever so I ended up crashing the computer I uninstalled twice does not help I am using windows 10 too.
I may be a .NET developer but my next PC's going to be a Mac.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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I may be a .NET developer but my next PC's going to be a Mac.
Slogans aren't solutions.
It's getting better with .NET Core support and Rider by JetBrains.. I've been using it on Mac and Ubuntu without too many issues. Won't be long until we're all programming .NET on whatever platform we want :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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This is something like the 4th time I've rebooted tonight. First time, tried to unlock my computer and it wouldn't stop showing the login screen. Nothing. Power off. 2nd time, tried to start Chrome. 100% disk utilization. Nothing. Powered off. 3rd time, 100% disk utilization. nothing. powered off. 4th time, tried to start Chrome again. Nothing. Powered off. I'm using MS Edge to post this. Is there a MS Update going on? Can't tell. Just more Win10 shenanigans I guess. Edit I attempted to start Chrome again and disk (HDD) went to 100% and at that point I cannot regain control of the machine again. Had to power down and restart. Also, earlier I was able to just barely get to TaskList but I couldn't kill Chrome. Edit 2 (2017.03.03) I found this report from someone else. Same experience I'm having:
Light XPressions said:
I kind of have the same problem since today My google wont start properly it just freezes my whole computer it takes forever so I ended up crashing the computer I uninstalled twice does not help I am using windows 10 too.
I had a similar issue on Windows 7 once with Chrome. I had to completely uninstall it and then install the latest version (rather than just upgrading it). Might not be the same as your problem, but it might be worth a go as it's pretty quick to do.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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I used Win ME without any trouble whatsoever. Sometimes it happens.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
den2k88 wrote:
I used Win ME without any trouble whatsoever
Ah, the memories! My first laptop came with ME. It would blue screen 2 or 3 times a day, especially when working in Visual Studio 6. It taught me to code in short bursts and save frequently! Finally, a friend introduced me to W2K and the nightmares were over. :) I liked W2K so much that I mostly skipped XP.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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This is something like the 4th time I've rebooted tonight. First time, tried to unlock my computer and it wouldn't stop showing the login screen. Nothing. Power off. 2nd time, tried to start Chrome. 100% disk utilization. Nothing. Powered off. 3rd time, 100% disk utilization. nothing. powered off. 4th time, tried to start Chrome again. Nothing. Powered off. I'm using MS Edge to post this. Is there a MS Update going on? Can't tell. Just more Win10 shenanigans I guess. Edit I attempted to start Chrome again and disk (HDD) went to 100% and at that point I cannot regain control of the machine again. Had to power down and restart. Also, earlier I was able to just barely get to TaskList but I couldn't kill Chrome. Edit 2 (2017.03.03) I found this report from someone else. Same experience I'm having:
Light XPressions said:
I kind of have the same problem since today My google wont start properly it just freezes my whole computer it takes forever so I ended up crashing the computer I uninstalled twice does not help I am using windows 10 too.
How does this having anything to do with Win10? It sounds like it's a problem with the latest Google Chrome update.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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How does this having anything to do with Win10? It sounds like it's a problem with the latest Google Chrome update.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I had a similar issue on Windows 7 once with Chrome. I had to completely uninstall it and then install the latest version (rather than just upgrading it). Might not be the same as your problem, but it might be worth a go as it's pretty quick to do.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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I may be a .NET developer but my next PC's going to be a Mac.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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It's getting better with .NET Core support and Rider by JetBrains.. I've been using it on Mac and Ubuntu without too many issues. Won't be long until we're all programming .NET on whatever platform we want :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
Brent Jenkins wrote:
Won't be long until we're all programming .NET on whatever platform we want :)
Yes, definitely, especially now SQLServer's available for LINUX.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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den2k88 wrote:
I used Win ME without any trouble whatsoever
Ah, the memories! My first laptop came with ME. It would blue screen 2 or 3 times a day, especially when working in Visual Studio 6. It taught me to code in short bursts and save frequently! Finally, a friend introduced me to W2K and the nightmares were over. :) I liked W2K so much that I mostly skipped XP.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
I had a worn and old PC, pentium 166 MMX, 64 MB of RAM and a motherboard so old it could support no more than a S3 Virge 3D as video card - but that one died years before and I was stuck with a Trident video card with 1 mb of VRAM. With Win98 SE it blue-screened about 3/4 times a week while with ME it bluescreened less than 10 times in the months I used it. Win2k was incompatible with many of the games I played and with most of the hardware I had at home (a very ancient Genius scanner which was thought for Win 3.1 and had its 16 bit driver embedded in its own management program). I found it a little slower than 98 but aestethically more pleasant, easier to use and more stable.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.
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This is something like the 4th time I've rebooted tonight. First time, tried to unlock my computer and it wouldn't stop showing the login screen. Nothing. Power off. 2nd time, tried to start Chrome. 100% disk utilization. Nothing. Powered off. 3rd time, 100% disk utilization. nothing. powered off. 4th time, tried to start Chrome again. Nothing. Powered off. I'm using MS Edge to post this. Is there a MS Update going on? Can't tell. Just more Win10 shenanigans I guess. Edit I attempted to start Chrome again and disk (HDD) went to 100% and at that point I cannot regain control of the machine again. Had to power down and restart. Also, earlier I was able to just barely get to TaskList but I couldn't kill Chrome. Edit 2 (2017.03.03) I found this report from someone else. Same experience I'm having:
Light XPressions said:
I kind of have the same problem since today My google wont start properly it just freezes my whole computer it takes forever so I ended up crashing the computer I uninstalled twice does not help I am using windows 10 too.
I'm also suspicious of your hard drive. Trying to force sectors out-of-service turns out to be much harder than it appears. RE: Chrome. Even with Windows 7 and 8.1 and now 10, I've had such problems with Chrome--especially which really high resource usage--I no longer use it (except on my Android phone and lately it's been a problem there.) When I really need a fallback due to a rendering or compatibility issue, I use Edge. Edit: In my case, I quickly narrowed down the worse Chrome problems to HTML 5.
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everytime I think 'ok, Im going to take the plunge and update to Win10' .. I see something like this :(
I started using it back in January and so far have had no issues. Chrome works great. My only issue would be the inability to turn off, or even configure, Windows Update. On my Windows 7 box, I had it set to "download but not install" so that I could decide if an update was needed. Not a showstopper, but it shouldn't take that control away from me.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Please allow me to offer you the counter point: While I sympathize with the OP and other people who struggle with Win 10, I have used it from the start, updated it regularly and only use Edge. I have had very few issues in more than a year. I did disable pop-up ads in Edge and I further suppress ads with the Windows HOSTS file. So as far as I am concerned, it is humming along nicely. :)
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
Cornelius Henning wrote:
...I further suppress ads with the Windows HOSTS file.
I have right at 100 mappings in my hosts file. Sure cuts down on the junk being downloaded/displayed in the browser.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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dandy72 wrote:
Where in my post was I inferring I had mistaken 100% disk usage for 100% CPU usage?
I was just mentioning the other details.
dandy72 wrote:
What did your file system watcher program reveal? I suspect it wouldn't have access to some system files that Resource Manager would.
It runs as Admin and has access to everything. I mean everything. Even files that I cannot actually edit however, again as I said once this problem occurs I cannot switch to any other program. Nothing. It could be a graphics problem like the desktop just isn't redrawing so I can't tell if anything is happening. Had that problem way back on NT 4 years ago. Thought the machine was locked but actually the graphics weren't being redrawn. Also, I updated the original post with an edit and I found someone else mentioning the same problem with Chrome.
raddevus wrote:
found someone else mentioning the same problem with Chrome
For years I've avoided Chrome...I keep hearing stories of seemingly unrelated problems that simply shouldn't happen--nothing ever specific, just "weird coincidences", until Chrome is removed or reinstalled. I had to install it about a week ago on a machine I actually care about, and I still feel dirty.
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I started using it back in January and so far have had no issues. Chrome works great. My only issue would be the inability to turn off, or even configure, Windows Update. On my Windows 7 box, I had it set to "download but not install" so that I could decide if an update was needed. Not a showstopper, but it shouldn't take that control away from me.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
thanks David I can't find the article/news feed I saw, but apparently they are 'working on' giving people back that ability
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PeejayAdams wrote:
I may be a .NET developer but my next PC's going to be a Mac.
And you'll still be able to dev .NET apps I guess since VStudio is going to be everywhere.
[JetBrains Rider](https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/) already is! :)
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.