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    W Balboos GHB
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    So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Makes sense - but it also cuts you off from internet video sources (Netfix, Amazon Prime) as well as from local NAS based video content. It would probably be simpler just to unplug the router - then nobody can watch what you do online! :laugh:

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        Makes sense - but it also cuts you off from internet video sources (Netfix, Amazon Prime) as well as from local NAS based video content. It would probably be simpler just to unplug the router - then nobody can watch what you do online! :laugh:

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Actually not - I have Roku on my sets. Both TV's are plugged into enegy saving power strips. The TV is main - when I shut it off a bunch of other things are shut off (including the Roku). Power it up and they get their power back. Roku's more channels than the TV, anyway - not just those who paid to have their sight put on my screen. Of course - if the roku can be persuaded to send a signal to my TV to enable the spy-stuff I'm doomed. NAS based: I have a media box on one set (Patriot thingee) and a USB port in the LG that plays my movies if I wish. Not via broadcast - but quite good enough.

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          Even without connection, we already know what you watch on your _big graphic_ display.

          ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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            Even without connection, we already know what you watch on your _big graphic_ display.

            ... such stuff as dreams are made on

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            The camera in my bedroom? I know it's there. I make quite a tidy sum for allowing them to look in and gawk in admiration

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              W∴ Balboos wrote:

              So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection.

              Believe it or not, in the UK we actually have a TV programme dedicated to this very thing - [Gogglebox - All 4](http://www.channel4.com/programmes/gogglebox) :doh: It's difficult to see how TV can get much worse than watching people watching crap on their TV's..

              Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection.

                Believe it or not, in the UK we actually have a TV programme dedicated to this very thing - [Gogglebox - All 4](http://www.channel4.com/programmes/gogglebox) :doh: It's difficult to see how TV can get much worse than watching people watching crap on their TV's..

                Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only. . . . and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  I built a computer that we use for web/NAS stuff. The TV connects to it via a home theater receiver. The TV itself is not connected to the internet, but I can still stream Netflix, et al...

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    I built a computer that we use for web/NAS stuff. The TV connects to it via a home theater receiver. The TV itself is not connected to the internet, but I can still stream Netflix, et al...

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    Similar, here - I bought a refurbished Dell Optiplex (with installed video card for HDMI) for that purpose. Also - used it yesterday, during snow-storm-that-wasn't to work remotely.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only. . . . and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      W∴ Balboos wrote:

                      and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

                      You can own it for free, but you need to pay a "licence fee" to the BBC to watch anything (even if it's not on the BBC). [It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..^](https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/media-culture/non-payment-of-bbc-licence-fee-accounts-for-10-of-prosecutions)

                      Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                        and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

                        You can own it for free, but you need to pay a "licence fee" to the BBC to watch anything (even if it's not on the BBC). [It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..^](https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/media-culture/non-payment-of-bbc-licence-fee-accounts-for-10-of-prosecutions)

                        Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                        Brent Jenkins wrote:

                        It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

                        The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          According to your microwave, you spend so much time in the kitchen getting snacks there is no point in monitoring the tv.

                          veni bibi saltavi

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                            According to your microwave, you spend so much time in the kitchen getting snacks there is no point in monitoring the tv.

                            veni bibi saltavi

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                            W Balboos GHB
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                            Don't believe the microwave!   It's been jealous every since I bought the induction cooking surface.

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              Brent Jenkins wrote:

                              It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

                              The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              W∴ Balboos wrote:

                              Why does anyone stay ? ?

                              Can't afford to leave - spent everything on TV licences

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                                Brent Jenkins wrote:

                                It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

                                The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                Why does anyone stay ? ?

                                For the National Health Service.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  Brent Jenkins wrote:

                                  It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

                                  The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  We've got good beer and Morris dancing :laugh:

                                  Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                                    Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only. . . . and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only.

                                    Probably because of the uproar the historical inaccuracies would provoke. If you want the realities of the war...[^]

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

                                      Ravings en masse^

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                      You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet.

                                      Same here... but without 4K Not only no internet to the TV (but yes to the laptop connected to it), I didn't even plugged the antenna since we don't see usual TV. Only films or things like that. Public Library on my town is for free and have a good load of DVDs if you don't mind to see them with 6 to 12 months delay...

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      • W W Balboos GHB

                                        So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        That's not enough. You need to wear your tin foil hat as well! :doh:

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                                        I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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                                          That's not enough. You need to wear your tin foil hat as well! :doh:

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                                          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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                                          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                                          Me, all the time

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                                          OK - wiseguy - what should I do with the HD Broadcast antenna I already connected to the set? Too large to be a coaster. Too soft to be a cutting board.         Well ?

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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