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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    I built a computer that we use for web/NAS stuff. The TV connects to it via a home theater receiver. The TV itself is not connected to the internet, but I can still stream Netflix, et al...

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    W Balboos GHB
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    Similar, here - I bought a refurbished Dell Optiplex (with installed video card for HDMI) for that purpose. Also - used it yesterday, during snow-storm-that-wasn't to work remotely.

    Ravings en masse^

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only. . . . and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      W∴ Balboos wrote:

      and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

      You can own it for free, but you need to pay a "licence fee" to the BBC to watch anything (even if it's not on the BBC). [It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..^](https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/media-culture/non-payment-of-bbc-licence-fee-accounts-for-10-of-prosecutions)

      Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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        W∴ Balboos wrote:

        and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

        You can own it for free, but you need to pay a "licence fee" to the BBC to watch anything (even if it's not on the BBC). [It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..^](https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/media-culture/non-payment-of-bbc-licence-fee-accounts-for-10-of-prosecutions)

        Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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        Brent Jenkins wrote:

        It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

        The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

        Ravings en masse^

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          According to your microwave, you spend so much time in the kitchen getting snacks there is no point in monitoring the tv.

          veni bibi saltavi

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            According to your microwave, you spend so much time in the kitchen getting snacks there is no point in monitoring the tv.

            veni bibi saltavi

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            W Balboos GHB
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            Don't believe the microwave!   It's been jealous every since I bought the induction cooking surface.

            Ravings en masse^

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              Brent Jenkins wrote:

              It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

              The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

              Ravings en masse^

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              WiganLatics
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              W∴ Balboos wrote:

              Why does anyone stay ? ?

              Can't afford to leave - spent everything on TV licences

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                Brent Jenkins wrote:

                It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

                The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                Mark_Wallace
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                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                Why does anyone stay ? ?

                For the National Health Service.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Brent Jenkins wrote:

                  It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

                  The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  We've got good beer and Morris dancing :laugh:

                  Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                    Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only. . . . and they make you pay an annual fee to own a telly, too?

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                    Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only.

                    Probably because of the uproar the historical inaccuracies would provoke. If you want the realities of the war...[^]

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Nelek
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                      W∴ Balboos wrote:

                      You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet.

                      Same here... but without 4K Not only no internet to the TV (but yes to the laptop connected to it), I didn't even plugged the antenna since we don't see usual TV. Only films or things like that. Public Library on my town is for free and have a good load of DVDs if you don't mind to see them with 6 to 12 months delay...

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        Johnny J
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                        That's not enough. You need to wear your tin foil hat as well! :doh:

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                          That's not enough. You need to wear your tin foil hat as well! :doh:

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                          Winston Churchill, 1944
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                          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                          Me, all the time

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                          OK - wiseguy - what should I do with the HD Broadcast antenna I already connected to the set? Too large to be a coaster. Too soft to be a cutting board.         Well ?

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            OK - wiseguy - what should I do with the HD Broadcast antenna I already connected to the set? Too large to be a coaster. Too soft to be a cutting board.         Well ?

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            Throw it out in the shed. Maybe somebody can use it to phone home?!?!? :rolleyes:

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                            Anonymous
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                            The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                            Winston Churchill, 1944
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                            I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                            Me, all the time

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                              Throw it out in the shed. Maybe somebody can use it to phone home?!?!? :rolleyes:

                              Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
                              Anonymous
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                              The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
                              Winston Churchill, 1944
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                              I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
                              Me, all the time

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                              W Balboos GHB
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                              Damn - now everyone knows I have a shed. They can use google-maps to find me.

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                We've got good beer and Morris dancing :laugh:

                                Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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                                We've got better beer. And NO Morris dancing!

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Brent Jenkins wrote:

                                  It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..

                                  The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Because Pepsi, Dominos etc don't dictate what opinions we are allowed to express on our TV, or what themes our TV programs can cover. It always amuses me when Americans express incredulity at the license fee but don't understand just how much of what they watch is dictated from and controlled by Coca Cola and Pepsi.

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                                    Because Pepsi, Dominos etc don't dictate what opinions we are allowed to express on our TV, or what themes our TV programs can cover. It always amuses me when Americans express incredulity at the license fee but don't understand just how much of what they watch is dictated from and controlled by Coca Cola and Pepsi.

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                                    W Balboos GHB
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                                    Beware of that double-edged sword! Aside from our having PBS (no commercials, public donations support), the same problem with the likes of Pepsi and Dominoes deciding what to sponsor also means they'll cow-tow to the public's norms. Still no nipples and nudity (at least until late at night). Also, we've so many cable stations that whatever you want to see can be seen. vs. Your BBC is (de facto) completely government run - so you'll see what they want you to see and think what they want you to think. I doubt Brexit will clear that up very much. Two glass houses - lots of stones.   What would Putin say?

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      Because Pepsi, Dominos etc don't dictate what opinions we are allowed to express on our TV, or what themes our TV programs can cover. It always amuses me when Americans express incredulity at the license fee but don't understand just how much of what they watch is dictated from and controlled by Coca Cola and Pepsi.

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                                      Well, most of what I watch is dicated by Jack Daniels.

                                      * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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                                        Damn - now everyone knows I have a shed. They can use google-maps to find me.

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        They also know that you have an HD antenna. That makes it even easier! :)

                                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                          They also know that you have an HD antenna. That makes it even easier! :)

                                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                          Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                                          They also know that you have an HD antenna. That makes it even easier!

                                          Only if they start looking in my windows, again. It's, as described earlier, too large for a coaster - a flat plastic panel with a wire. Perhaps I ought wrap it in aluminum foil - to keep the pesky RF from getting in or out of it and interfering with the RF I want. My supply of foil, thanks to CP suggestions, has been running rather low.

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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