Electronic Spying - Only if you want it
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OK - wiseguy - what should I do with the HD Broadcast antenna I already connected to the set? Too large to be a coaster. Too soft to be a cutting board. Well ?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Throw it out in the shed. Maybe somebody can use it to phone home?!?!? :rolleyes:
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time -
Throw it out in the shed. Maybe somebody can use it to phone home?!?!? :rolleyes:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the timeDamn - now everyone knows I have a shed. They can use google-maps to find me.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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We've got good beer and Morris dancing :laugh:
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
We've got better beer. And NO Morris dancing!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
It's also a criminal offence to watch TV without a licence..
The "founding fathers" of the US - when breaking away from the UK - apparently showed even more insight than I realized. Why does anyone stay ? ?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Because Pepsi, Dominos etc don't dictate what opinions we are allowed to express on our TV, or what themes our TV programs can cover. It always amuses me when Americans express incredulity at the license fee but don't understand just how much of what they watch is dictated from and controlled by Coca Cola and Pepsi.
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Because Pepsi, Dominos etc don't dictate what opinions we are allowed to express on our TV, or what themes our TV programs can cover. It always amuses me when Americans express incredulity at the license fee but don't understand just how much of what they watch is dictated from and controlled by Coca Cola and Pepsi.
Beware of that double-edged sword! Aside from our having PBS (no commercials, public donations support), the same problem with the likes of Pepsi and Dominoes deciding what to sponsor also means they'll cow-tow to the public's norms. Still no nipples and nudity (at least until late at night). Also, we've so many cable stations that whatever you want to see can be seen. vs. Your BBC is (de facto) completely government run - so you'll see what they want you to see and think what they want you to think. I doubt Brexit will clear that up very much. Two glass houses - lots of stones. What would Putin say?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Damn - now everyone knows I have a shed. They can use google-maps to find me.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
They also know that you have an HD antenna. That makes it even easier! :)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Because Pepsi, Dominos etc don't dictate what opinions we are allowed to express on our TV, or what themes our TV programs can cover. It always amuses me when Americans express incredulity at the license fee but don't understand just how much of what they watch is dictated from and controlled by Coca Cola and Pepsi.
Well, most of what I watch is dicated by Jack Daniels.
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They also know that you have an HD antenna. That makes it even easier! :)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
They also know that you have an HD antenna. That makes it even easier!
Only if they start looking in my windows, again. It's, as described earlier, too large for a coaster - a flat plastic panel with a wire. Perhaps I ought wrap it in aluminum foil - to keep the pesky RF from getting in or out of it and interfering with the RF I want. My supply of foil, thanks to CP suggestions, has been running rather low.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Beware of that double-edged sword! Aside from our having PBS (no commercials, public donations support), the same problem with the likes of Pepsi and Dominoes deciding what to sponsor also means they'll cow-tow to the public's norms. Still no nipples and nudity (at least until late at night). Also, we've so many cable stations that whatever you want to see can be seen. vs. Your BBC is (de facto) completely government run - so you'll see what they want you to see and think what they want you to think. I doubt Brexit will clear that up very much. Two glass houses - lots of stones. What would Putin say?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Your argument is based on ignorance (both of the UK and also how much of US TV is controlled by corporations and to what extent) so there isn't any point in addressing it.
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Your argument is based on ignorance (both of the UK and also how much of US TV is controlled by corporations and to what extent) so there isn't any point in addressing it.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Your argument is based on ignorance
Mine . . . or apparently, yours? Not only on how US-TV is run, but on what I do or do not know about UK-TV.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Your argument is based on ignorance
Mine . . . or apparently, yours? Not only on how US-TV is run, but on what I do or do not know about UK-TV.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Definitely yours.
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So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I initially made the mistake of letting my LG TV connect to my LAN when I first got it. Well, not entirely a mistake, I let it go ahead and download the latest firmware. Still not sure what the benefit of that was however; it's not like they publish any sort of "what's new" document. After that I had no use for the internet connectivity. Damned if the TV will let you disconnect or clear any existing setting once it knows your wireless password however. And if you try to redirect it to something that doesn't exist, it'll fail to do the connection (obviously), and then cancelling will make it revert to the settings it already knows about. The path of least resistance for me was to temporarily change my wireless password in the router, tell the TV to use that, then change the password back (otherwise I have countless devices I'd have to change).
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I initially made the mistake of letting my LG TV connect to my LAN when I first got it. Well, not entirely a mistake, I let it go ahead and download the latest firmware. Still not sure what the benefit of that was however; it's not like they publish any sort of "what's new" document. After that I had no use for the internet connectivity. Damned if the TV will let you disconnect or clear any existing setting once it knows your wireless password however. And if you try to redirect it to something that doesn't exist, it'll fail to do the connection (obviously), and then cancelling will make it revert to the settings it already knows about. The path of least resistance for me was to temporarily change my wireless password in the router, tell the TV to use that, then change the password back (otherwise I have countless devices I'd have to change).
Ya know - all things considered. If you agree to connect the TV to the internet they should give you the TV for free. Make their profits by selling your information. Now everyone would be happy.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
No use for "smarts" in a TV; better to have a separate box for that. We also plan to discontinue cable TV and view only discs and streaming services.
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Ya know - all things considered. If you agree to connect the TV to the internet they should give you the TV for free. Make their profits by selling your information. Now everyone would be happy.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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So a plasma TV I inherited burned out this weekend. It was our primary viewing station (i.e., idiot box) so I replaced it with an 49" LG 4k Smart TV. You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet. So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection. Should keep the listening-in down to more traditional levels. Kind of an easy solution. Just because you buy a 'smart' device is no need for you restore symmetry to the universe and allow yourself to become stupid.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection.
No connection needed to spy on you through your tv.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection.
No connection needed to spy on you through your tv.
Enlighten us as to how so! Cell phone towers? A conspiracy! Fortunately, I already sprayed the TV and the homunculus is dead (deep fried, actually).
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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No use for "smarts" in a TV; better to have a separate box for that. We also plan to discontinue cable TV and view only discs and streaming services.
We did that a couple of years ago (sans DVD's actually). No way we'll go back! Only one pay service, HuluPlus, has been picked up.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Enlighten us as to how so! Cell phone towers? A conspiracy! Fortunately, I already sprayed the TV and the homunculus is dead (deep fried, actually).
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Enlighten us as to how so!
A technique that has been around since the 1940's. In the military it is called compromising emanations. To the every day it's called Van Eck phreaking, so named after the guy who first demonstrated it publicly by remotely reconstructing an image from nothing but the EM radiation given off a TV set. No internet connection needed, just someone with a little knowledge of electronics. From there your actions in front of your TV can be deduced by the amount of the EM field you are blocking and the way it is being blocked. Unless you have surgical pins or screws or some such in you, because then you're pretty screwed as they act as an amplifier.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Enlighten us as to how so!
A technique that has been around since the 1940's. In the military it is called compromising emanations. To the every day it's called Van Eck phreaking, so named after the guy who first demonstrated it publicly by remotely reconstructing an image from nothing but the EM radiation given off a TV set. No internet connection needed, just someone with a little knowledge of electronics. From there your actions in front of your TV can be deduced by the amount of the EM field you are blocking and the way it is being blocked. Unless you have surgical pins or screws or some such in you, because then you're pretty screwed as they act as an amplifier.
And this information will be picked up by whom? Where? Like the compromise of voting ballots - what happens to the old data when the next person votes? Where is the receiver for this signal . . . the induction cooker I just got? I'd be more concerned with laser-Doppler being used to eavesdrop on conversations from window vibrations. Who's running all of these? But I'm not concerned. If I were specifically targeted - then game is over for me. If not - this is no telephone conversation already streaming - it's a latent image of questionable persistence and even more questionable value. The sun will die out some day - I'm not worried about that, either (yet).
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010