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What could a home computer from 1969 be good for?

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  • L Lost User

    And the best thing: You will have to learn how to read a binary display. :-)

    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
    This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
    "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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    den2k88
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    CDP1802 wrote:

    You will have to learn how to read a binary display. :)

    Well, duh, it's either on or off. :doh:

    * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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    • L Lost User

      Have you ever seen something like that in action? Ten years later a friend got such a teletype for it's Netronics Elf II[^]. Loud like hell and if you were unlucky. you were stuck at 75 baud. Printing a single page may take some time at such a rate.

      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Hey, don't knock teletype! It was the bee's knees, when it was all we had. I never used it to print pages, though; more for chat -- it was kind of a precursor to e-mail, but with faster response times, in that I'd type something (which would type itself out almost instantly on the other end), then whoever was on the other end would type something in reply (which would be typed out on my machine immediately). And it was an order of magnitude cheaper than the phone, for international communication. Maybe that doesn't sound like much, now that we've got the Interwebs, but it was a huge leap, back in the day.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        CDP1802 wrote:

        You will have to learn how to read a binary display. :)

        Well, duh, it's either on or off. :doh:

        * CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF * GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X * Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game. * I'm a puny punmaker.

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        Mark_Wallace
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        And you can't read the display when it's off.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • L Lost User

          Who would have thought that there were any home computers at all in 1969? At a bargain price just above 10000 $. I found this one[^] in a computer museum, and behold what it was intended to be used for!

          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
          This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
          "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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          Mike Hankey
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          Wonder if it had a Rolodex app for all those store mom's used to visit. And coupons...don't forget coupons.

          Someone's therapist knows all about you!

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          • L Lost User

            Who would have thought that there were any home computers at all in 1969? At a bargain price just above 10000 $. I found this one[^] in a computer museum, and behold what it was intended to be used for!

            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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            Lost User
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            I want three, ... no wait, doesn't do IoT, ... if I can't use it to spy on the cat then forget it.

            Sin tack the any key okay

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            • L Lost User

              I want three, ... no wait, doesn't do IoT, ... if I can't use it to spy on the cat then forget it.

              Sin tack the any key okay

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              Lost User
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              You spy on your poor cat? you know that this means that eveyone and his dog, from Mickeysoft to Homeland Security and the CIA now know about the poor thing. If you spy on it, it must be involved in something.

              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
              This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
              "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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              • L Lost User

                You spy on your poor cat? you know that this means that eveyone and his dog, from Mickeysoft to Homeland Security and the CIA now know about the poor thing. If you spy on it, it must be involved in something.

                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                Lost User
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                Well, apart from the should-not-be-mentioned-here*, what else is the IoT good for? * note to self: must not mention "sabotaging the neighbors' appliances."

                Sin tack the any key okay

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                • L Lost User

                  Well, apart from the should-not-be-mentioned-here*, what else is the IoT good for? * note to self: must not mention "sabotaging the neighbors' appliances."

                  Sin tack the any key okay

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                  Lost User
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                  It's for pulling some more bucks out of gullible people's pockets, above all.

                  The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                  This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                  "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    "Here darling, I bought you a computer for the house." And that's how the fight started. :laugh:

                    veni bibi saltavi

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                    dandy72
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                    Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                    "Here darling, I bought you a computer a house for the house computer."

                    FTFY.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Who would have thought that there were any home computers at all in 1969? At a bargain price just above 10000 $. I found this one[^] in a computer museum, and behold what it was intended to be used for!

                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                      Mycroft Holmes
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                      and there was no record of one ever being sold

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      • L Lost User

                        Who would have thought that there were any home computers at all in 1969? At a bargain price just above 10000 $. I found this one[^] in a computer museum, and behold what it was intended to be used for!

                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                        kalberts
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                        Well... I played my first computer games in 1975, although not at home but at school. The Altair 8800 was released that year. Sure, that was six years after the kitchen computer, but the 1960-70s were not quite as Dark Ages as we tend to think. After all: We did put a man on the moon in 1969. I haven't written a single letter by hand since 1975; we had a computer controlled IBM Selectric as an output device. (And later the Diablo, which sure deserves its name :-)) Add another four years: In 1979 I was developing computer games (although not as a living). I maintained all sorts of archives (letters, book/record lists, and recepies) on floppy disks. They were for use on a machine that handled 20 simultaneously active screen terminals. The machine itself was smaller than the stereo system of some HiFi-freaks: A single six foot tall 19" rack (and lots of that was open air!). Our model, a Nord-10, was released in 1973 (a 1967 model extended with virtual memory) as a competitor to PDP-11 from 1970. A friend of mine did have a PDP-11 at home in the 1970s. They were expensive, of course, but so was this kitchen computer. The main difference between the PDPs / Norsk Data computers and the kitchen computer was the exterior, the WAF: Few housewives would want to have an "industrial design" 19" rack into their kitchen.

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                        • L Lost User

                          You spy on your poor cat? you know that this means that eveyone and his dog, from Mickeysoft to Homeland Security and the CIA now know about the poor thing. If you spy on it, it must be involved in something.

                          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                          This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                          "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          CDP1802 wrote:

                          If you spy on it, it must be involved in something

                          Have you ever met a cat? Of course they're up to something.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                            Wonder if it had a Rolodex app for all those store mom's used to visit. And coupons...don't forget coupons.

                            Someone's therapist knows all about you!

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                            Kirk 10389821
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                            I am going out on a limb here... But those buying this device... Were not saving 5 Cents on Paper Towels with a coupon. Like they said, this cost about 3-4 new cars worth of cash. WOW. So, cars got more expensive, and computers got much cheaper.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Who would have thought that there were any home computers at all in 1969? At a bargain price just above 10000 $. I found this one[^] in a computer museum, and behold what it was intended to be used for!

                              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                              This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                              "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                              brothers
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                              My wife and I had a home computer (a PDP-8i) in 1971. She built a consulting business around it that evolved into a successful corporation that's still doing business today.

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                                Who would have thought that there were any home computers at all in 1969? At a bargain price just above 10000 $. I found this one[^] in a computer museum, and behold what it was intended to be used for!

                                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                                Weston Miller
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                                You could run Forth on it!

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                                • W Weston Miller

                                  You could run Forth on it!

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Yes, that would work. Implementing a Forth system would not be so hard, unless that discrete processor has no stack.

                                  The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                  This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                  "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                                  • J Jochen Arndt

                                    CDP1802 wrote:

                                    Have you ever seen something like that in action?

                                    I have used them (not as computer terminal but as ticker). Last time was around 1993.

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                                    Ken Howe
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                                    I used them to enter programs at school. Sure beat punched cards! I still have an IMSAI and a couple of Xerox 820 II bare boards that I haven't finished in my closet.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Who would have thought that there were any home computers at all in 1969? At a bargain price just above 10000 $. I found this one[^] in a computer museum, and behold what it was intended to be used for!

                                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                                      Herbie Mountjoy
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                                      I guess the ouput went to some sort of TTY, maybe an ASR33, because VDUs were hard to come by in those days. I wonder if it was hot pan resistant.

                                      We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        Hey, don't knock teletype! It was the bee's knees, when it was all we had. I never used it to print pages, though; more for chat -- it was kind of a precursor to e-mail, but with faster response times, in that I'd type something (which would type itself out almost instantly on the other end), then whoever was on the other end would type something in reply (which would be typed out on my machine immediately). And it was an order of magnitude cheaper than the phone, for international communication. Maybe that doesn't sound like much, now that we've got the Interwebs, but it was a huge leap, back in the day.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                        It was the bee's knees,

                                        More likely you had paper piling up to you knees. :-)

                                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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