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  • M Munchies_Matt

    I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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    CPallini
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    I would do, I still like coding.

    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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    • M Munchies_Matt

      I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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      jgakenhe
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      Of course, I would and I did. I got into IT because of a website I had developed nearly 20 years ago. And throughout my career I used personal projects to learn new technologies.

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      • M Munchies_Matt

        I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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        Marc Clifton
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        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it

        With 205 articles, some of which have taken 100's of hours of coding, not to mention the time spent in writing the articles themselves, what do you think? Besides, anyone that contributes to open source is not getting paid. I also occasionally do some pro bono work, whether that's writing a small app for the World Wildlife Fund, or making tweaks to a website I put together (which I did get paid for, but at about 10% of my normal rate because I wanted to do something meaningful) for [bmbfa.org](http://www.bmbfa.org/), or just helping my kid's school out with their IT issues. Now granted, I obviously make enough money writing software such that I have the luxury of donating my time to myself and others for projects that I'm interested in. And that phrase "donating my time to myself" is something to be very conscious of, as I treat my personal interests as a separate entity so that I'm making a conscious decision about what I find important. Marc

        Latest Article - Merkle Trees Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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          Munchies_Matt wrote:

          Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it

          With 205 articles, some of which have taken 100's of hours of coding, not to mention the time spent in writing the articles themselves, what do you think? Besides, anyone that contributes to open source is not getting paid. I also occasionally do some pro bono work, whether that's writing a small app for the World Wildlife Fund, or making tweaks to a website I put together (which I did get paid for, but at about 10% of my normal rate because I wanted to do something meaningful) for [bmbfa.org](http://www.bmbfa.org/), or just helping my kid's school out with their IT issues. Now granted, I obviously make enough money writing software such that I have the luxury of donating my time to myself and others for projects that I'm interested in. And that phrase "donating my time to myself" is something to be very conscious of, as I treat my personal interests as a separate entity so that I'm making a conscious decision about what I find important. Marc

          Latest Article - Merkle Trees Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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          Rage
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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          just helping my kid's school out with their IT issues.

          "just" :) This has been pretty much eating 30% of my free time in the five last years.

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          • M Munchies_Matt

            I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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            Ron Anders
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            I have made a script or two for my church where everything is volunteer. Aside from that - nope.

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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              Lost User
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              Like others have said, I enjoy coding so yes, I would (and do) code for free (my own projects). Since I've been programming since I was 8 years old, it's hard to think of a time when I wouldn't do it. That being said, I do other stuff too - hiking, surfing, ice hockey, snowboarding, cycling and anything else available at the time - it's nice to have a break away from the screen too.. :)

              Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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                Forogar
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                Yes, but mostly for my (and my friends) personal use.

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                • M Munchies_Matt

                  I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  Not for others, no. But certainly for myself. If you're not also doing it as a hobby, get out of the industry, we don't want you.

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    Not for others, no. But certainly for myself. If you're not also doing it as a hobby, get out of the industry, we don't want you.

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                    Munchies_Matt
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                    What an arrogant prick you are.

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                    • M Munchies_Matt

                      What an arrogant prick you are.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Yep, that's me.

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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                        Slacker007
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                        I would engineer software for myself for free, obviously. I would not work for others unless I got paid...unlesssssss, it was pro bono job for a good cause.

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                        • M Munchies_Matt

                          I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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                          Mike Hankey
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                          I've done it for several year. I do it for the love of programming and because I can't find the same level of frustration doing anything else.

                          Someone's therapist knows all about you!

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                            I would engineer software for myself for free, obviously. I would not work for others unless I got paid...unlesssssss, it was pro bono job for a good cause.

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                            Munchies_Matt
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                            Slacker007 wrote:

                            I would engineer software for myself

                            But why? What would you need software for?

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              Yep, that's me.

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                              Munchies_Matt
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                              What makes your statement so pompous is that I work in what is probably the most complex software engineering environment, the Windows Kernel, and have done for 20 years. Given the products I have worked on there is a very high chance you have used my drivers.

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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                                Dennis E White
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                                I do it on the side already for my own personal enjoyment already so in a way I guess I would continue. However if my work was for another person to profit then I would expect a piece of that return.

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                                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                  I've done it for several year. I do it for the love of programming and because I can't find the same level of frustration doing anything else.

                                  Someone's therapist knows all about you!

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                                  kmoorevs
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                                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                                  I can't find the same level of frustration doing anything else.

                                  So, I guess you never took up golf... :laugh:

                                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                  • K kmoorevs

                                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                                    I can't find the same level of frustration doing anything else.

                                    So, I guess you never took up golf... :laugh:

                                    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                    Mike Hankey
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                                    After watching my son play golf for many years I decided I couldn't afford it.

                                    Someone's therapist knows all about you!

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                                    • M Munchies_Matt

                                      I saw someone say a few months back they would program computer whether they got paid or not. This got me thinking, how many IT professionals actually would, so quick poll: Who would engineer software if they didnt get paid for it, and my opener is, no freaking way! :)

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                                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                                      I've created a few simple websites for friends but that's it - gives me a chance to play with anything new.

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                                        I've created a few simple websites for friends but that's it - gives me a chance to play with anything new.

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                                        Munchies_Matt
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                                        So its you me and V on one side and the rest of CP on the other. I didnt realise THAT many of them were nerds. I thought there might be some engineers among them. :)

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                                        • M Munchies_Matt

                                          What makes your statement so pompous is that I work in what is probably the most complex software engineering environment, the Windows Kernel, and have done for 20 years. Given the products I have worked on there is a very high chance you have used my drivers.

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          I certainly wouldn't expect you to do that for fun and relaxation, just as I don't do the kind of stuff I'm currently being paid to do (SSIS X| ) for myself. At home, I do what I want to do in whatever way I want.

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