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  • L Lost User

    Caution: there are a few ms fanlemmings stalking the board. Anyway, 10's not that bad, that is for people that don't really need to use a computer very much or do any real work on it. (Im nncluding the marketing dept in that one.)

    Sin tack the any key okay

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    Mark_Wallace
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    Spot on. It's the same as every other "advance" they've made over the past few years, especially in ms office. "Mobile first!"? "Morons first!", more like.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    • R realJSOP

      I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      Windows 10 with Classic Shell works quite well for me. I admit to preferring the Windows 7 UI, but it's not that big an issue with me. OTOH, all I manage is my family's ( myself, my wife, and my daughters ) computers. I can't say what it would be like to manage a Win10 domain, or some such.

      If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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      • L Lost User

        According to her, it works fine for Facebook ;P :laugh: [Edit] Myself on 8.1, without fb

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        OriginalGriff
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        Win 10 is better than Win 8.1 But that's like saying "being hung, drawn, and quartered is better than being burnt at the stake." :sigh:

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        • R realJSOP

          I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          charlieg
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          *slowly* getting used to it.. going through the list of "Windows 10 now incorporates " For example, they have finally added virtual desktop support. Totally boned it up, but I guess it's sort of there. Much prefer deskspace, but we shall see. Meanwhile, here comes the next major update MS has released...

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Win 10 is better than Win 8.1 But that's like saying "being hung, drawn, and quartered is better than being burnt at the stake." :sigh:

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            Lost User
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            I will choose hanging. Seems to me the best way in Terms of seconds ;)

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            • R realJSOP

              I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Maximilien
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              I like it. That is all.

              I'd rather be phishing!

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              • L Lost User

                I will choose hanging. Seems to me the best way in Terms of seconds ;)

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                TNCaver
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                Hung, drawn and quartered is a single process. You don't get to stop at the hanging. They hang you until you're almost, but not quite, unconscious, then they let you down and let you wake up. Then they do it again another time or two, or more, depending on the enthusiasm level of the crowd. Then they draw and quarter you, slowly. Still interested? lol

                If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                  Windows 10 with Classic Shell works quite well for me. I admit to preferring the Windows 7 UI, but it's not that big an issue with me. OTOH, all I manage is my family's ( myself, my wife, and my daughters ) computers. I can't say what it would be like to manage a Win10 domain, or some such.

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  TNCaver
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                  Yeah, I use the Windows 10 with Classic Shell combo, too. I don't see what the big hate is about, as far as regular use goes. I do understand the hate over the ads, and not having control over your own hardware as to when it updates and reboots, and what it updates. Otherwise, it's like enhanced Win 7 to me.

                  If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                  • T TNCaver

                    Hung, drawn and quartered is a single process. You don't get to stop at the hanging. They hang you until you're almost, but not quite, unconscious, then they let you down and let you wake up. Then they do it again another time or two, or more, depending on the enthusiasm level of the crowd. Then they draw and quarter you, slowly. Still interested? lol

                    If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                    Lost User
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                    No :-D Is it not possible to bring in that I'm not native english and that hang is enough? :laugh:

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                    • R realJSOP

                      I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                      -----
                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      Meh, it's not that bad... Just use Classic view, customize your menu to remove all of those stupid tiles, and it basically feels like Win7. The forced reboots for updates are a little annoying, but you can postpone them if you have the Professional version instead of the entry-level one. Can't really compare performance with Win7 (I skipped Win8 entirely), since I upgraded my entire computer at the same time (M2 SSD = Much awesomeness)

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                      • L Lost User

                        No :-D Is it not possible to bring in that I'm not native english and that hang is enough? :laugh:

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                        TNCaver
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                        No, sorry. Commit a crime in merry old Renaissance England, you pay using the local currency. No mercy for the non-citizen, I'm afraid. ;P

                        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                        • T TNCaver

                          Yeah, I use the Windows 10 with Classic Shell combo, too. I don't see what the big hate is about, as far as regular use goes. I do understand the hate over the ads, and not having control over your own hardware as to when it updates and reboots, and what it updates. Otherwise, it's like enhanced Win 7 to me.

                          If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                          Lost User
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                          I can see eventually no choice but to go 10 (11, 12), Although classic shell does make things 'more familiar' there's more I'd like to see fixed. i.e. complete block on ms data theft, choice on updates, banish metro ... fixed (adj): give full and proper control of a machine to it's owner. If ms doesn't provide these then good quality 3rd party utils/hacks are fine. Yeah I know some are already out there, but currently somewhat rusty/leaky/breaky. (Plus just did fresh 7 clean-install to fix weirdness caused by vs-15/17, enough pain for 1 year.)

                          Sin tack the any key okay

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                          • T TNCaver

                            No, sorry. Commit a crime in merry old Renaissance England, you pay using the local currency. No mercy for the non-citizen, I'm afraid. ;P

                            If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                            Lost User
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                            :rose: for me then ;P :laugh:

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                            • R realJSOP

                              I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.

                              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                              -----
                              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                              Sander Rossel
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                              Microsoft hates you even more, as Win10 proves :D

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                              • R realJSOP

                                I had the displeasure of using a Win10 computer last night. I hated it. That is all.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                -----
                                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                Vark111
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                                Luckily for me, my company has been gracious enough to grant me an MSDN license, from which I downloaded the Enterprise edition of winio. No Store, No Cortana, Updates when I tell it to update, I get to uninstall One Drive... It's almost halfway decent under these circumstances. Of course, I only spend about 2-3 hours a week these days on my Win10 machine. The vast majority of my time is spent on a Linux box these days.

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                                • I Ian Shlasko

                                  Meh, it's not that bad... Just use Classic view, customize your menu to remove all of those stupid tiles, and it basically feels like Win7. The forced reboots for updates are a little annoying, but you can postpone them if you have the Professional version instead of the entry-level one. Can't really compare performance with Win7 (I skipped Win8 entirely), since I upgraded my entire computer at the same time (M2 SSD = Much awesomeness)

                                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                  Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                  Classic view

                                  Where's the setting for this? Did a quick google and the links I see want me to install some third party app.

                                  Jeremy Falcon

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                                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                    Windows 10 with Classic Shell works quite well for me. I admit to preferring the Windows 7 UI, but it's not that big an issue with me. OTOH, all I manage is my family's ( myself, my wife, and my daughters ) computers. I can't say what it would be like to manage a Win10 domain, or some such.

                                    If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                    realJSOP
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                                    Not my computer so I am not willing to change configuration.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    • T TNCaver

                                      Yeah, I use the Windows 10 with Classic Shell combo, too. I don't see what the big hate is about, as far as regular use goes. I do understand the hate over the ads, and not having control over your own hardware as to when it updates and reboots, and what it updates. Otherwise, it's like enhanced Win 7 to me.

                                      If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                      W Balboos GHB
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                                      TNCaver wrote:

                                      and not having control over your own hardware as to when it updates and reboots, and what it updates. Otherwise

                                      There is no OTHERWISE. In principal, what could be worse than that - i.e., buying a computer for MicroSloth?

                                      Ravings en masse^

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        TNCaver wrote:

                                        and not having control over your own hardware as to when it updates and reboots, and what it updates. Otherwise

                                        There is no OTHERWISE. In principal, what could be worse than that - i.e., buying a computer for MicroSloth?

                                        Ravings en masse^

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        Nathan Minier
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                                        Paying Apple to buy a computer for Apple?

                                        "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Caution: there are a few ms fanlemmings stalking the board. Anyway, 10's not that bad, that is for people that don't really need to use a computer very much or do any real work on it. (Im nncluding the marketing dept in that one.)

                                          Sin tack the any key okay

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                                          ngoj
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                                          I fully agree. In addition, todays IT industry tends to produce devices and softwer not for people who do real work. And that is the gigantic mistake in the case of Windows OS. Microsoft CEOs should take in consideration that what works for Apple and Samsung doesn't work for them.

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