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    OriginalGriff
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    I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      theoldfool
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      This is to inform you that someone is writing really stupid suggestions and signing your name to them. :-D

      Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Marco Bertschi
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        Clear Text: We will, with the next Service Pack, enforce Edge as your default browser and never let you change it back again, because of reasons.

        I only have a signature in order to let @DalekDave follow my posts.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          Lost User
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          First thing to come to mind after reading the headline, is how Win10 phones home :laugh:

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            KC CahabaGBA
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            Xlated.... The 'dolt bomb' is that with the update 'Your machines browser' will hence forth be and always be Edge!

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Kirk 10389821
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              Phone Call: Hello, this is Raj from Microsoft Support... We are seeing that you are NOT USING IE as your default browser. Also, we are seeing that you are NOT USING Edge either... We have been requested to connect to your machine and delete all OTHER browsers. Also, Our website for making suggestions will now PREVENT you from making suggestions, unless you use IE or Edge (AND) one of them is the default browser, AND you have no other browsers installed. Yes, this is for customer satisfaction. We will NOT be satisfied until ALL CUSTOMERS learn the Microsoft way! ...

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                Clear Text: We will, with the next Service Pack, enforce Edge as your default browser and never let you change it back again, because of reasons.

                I only have a signature in order to let @DalekDave follow my posts.

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                Mark_Wallace
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                I was going to say that the only requirement is that edge is your default browser. It's the kind of sh1tty trick they pull, nowadays.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  kdmote
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                  Well, O'Griff, I just want to let you know that I personally just submitted three of my precious VS votes on that very issue JUST YESTERDAY, and so I am fairly certain that you can credit ME for pushing this issue over the threshold of visibility in Redmond. Scene: Redmond Office bullpen. Desks covered with paper and stained coffee mugs. Suddenly an alarm sounds and blue lights flash. PocketProtectorGuy: "Whoa! Was that what I think it was?" BirkenstockGal: "Oh yeah, baby! The VS Browser Issue just got green-lighted! We must have broken that 1283-vote barrier! Way to go, VS community! Leave it to ol' KDMote to put us over the top!" PonyTailGuy: "All right, gang! Let's get busy! I don't want to miss the window for getting this fix in for VS2020!" GrayBeard: Now now, boys and girls, let's not get too hasty here. Your giddy exuberance must not get in the way of prudent requirements solicitation and planning. I'll begin drafting the first 100 pages of the SRD just as soon as I schedule the first meeting to discuss the strategy for designing the specification for the design-requirements development sprint.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    Matt McGuire
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                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death

                    I really hope so, I've been using libreoffice even though I have the MS office also installed (work insisted), just because of that stupid ribbon that clutters the screen and slows me down looking for crap.

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                      I was going to say that the only requirement is that edge is your default browser. It's the kind of sh1tty trick they pull, nowadays.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Charles Programmer
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                      Don't be silly, he said an "actual browser." ;) :laugh:

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        obermd
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                        I'm still waiting for them to restore color printing from VS. VS color codes the source on the screen so why not printed code? Earier version of VS did this.

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                        • K Kirk 10389821

                          Phone Call: Hello, this is Raj from Microsoft Support... We are seeing that you are NOT USING IE as your default browser. Also, we are seeing that you are NOT USING Edge either... We have been requested to connect to your machine and delete all OTHER browsers. Also, Our website for making suggestions will now PREVENT you from making suggestions, unless you use IE or Edge (AND) one of them is the default browser, AND you have no other browsers installed. Yes, this is for customer satisfaction. We will NOT be satisfied until ALL CUSTOMERS learn the Microsoft way! ...

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                          YaakovF
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                          They already do it to me with Chrome. When I type www.microsoft.com, Chrome displays the message:

                          This site can’t be reached

                          www.microsoft.com unexpectedly closed the connection.

                          Typing www.microsoft.com in Edge gets me there, no problem.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            I just got an email to say that an improvement to VS I support has ... wait for it, wait for it ... been started! :thumbsup: Open links in an actual browser – Visual Studio[^] Only little detail is when I started supporting it ... 2012 ... yes, 5 years to actually comment. Does that mean that in ten years or so the $#*&$ing Ribbon will die a death? We can but hope...

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            Bob Beechey
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                            What is it with this anti-ribbon thing? It is faster and more intuitive than the old menu system. I changed to it when it was still in beta many years ago because it was so well thought out. (Maybe 10% of use-cases needed help in the first days). Screen real estate is a problem if you are using an old small-scale crt monitor but thewn you can hide the ribbon and call it up by clicking on the tab of need. I found when all machines where i worked were using the ribbons, many users were nervous and confused but five or 10 minutes of effective training and they needed no more support. I can understand the initial unfamiliarity (especiaaly if people look for options by habit rather than logic) but, with appropriate will, most users never look back. Whenever I have to support an older Office with menus/buttons it feels really, really clunky.

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