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Why do people become a fan of a program language

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  • M Marc Clifton

    Your subject line is interesting but the message body is incomprehensible. Regardless, I'm a fan of C#/.NET because it lets me code the way I like to think about programming -- dynamic modules, reflection and metadata, imperative and functional styles, etc. I'm a fan of Python because of the cross platform capability and large library of stuff out there there runs on both Windows an *nix, making testing really easy. I'm not a fan of C#/.NET because it still isn't a first class citizen on *nix. I'm not a fan of Python because it's slow and the syntax can be obtuse, and the 3rd party libraries can be poorly documented and even more obtuse, and as a language goes, it's not as expressive, and it's more limiting, than C#. So my style is cramped, as it were. ;) And I have nothing in the "fan" category to say about languages like Ruby, other than that Ruby is the VB of open source developers. As well, Javascript. Marc

    Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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    dandy72
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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    Your subject line is interesting but the message body is incomprehensible.

    So it's not just me then. I know that I recognized all of these words, but I don't understand what they mean when strung together in this order...

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    • A amagitech

      Sometimes i see some developers say that java kicks the c# or via versa. Yesterday a good know java developer which is jug chairman in turkey said that "I need to have install visual studio for a project, then i saw microsoft seized my computer.". Sometimes they share microsoft steal your codes. the source is that Visual Studio adding telemetry function calls to binary? : cpp[^] What do you think about that?

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      afigegoznaet
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      Very easy, I can't get no satisfaction with C# or Python. I certainly do with C++.

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        Sometimes i see some developers say that java kicks the c# or via versa. Yesterday a good know java developer which is jug chairman in turkey said that "I need to have install visual studio for a project, then i saw microsoft seized my computer.". Sometimes they share microsoft steal your codes. the source is that Visual Studio adding telemetry function calls to binary? : cpp[^] What do you think about that?

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        irneb
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        Strange ... I use C# most of the time, not because I like it better, just because it's the most productive for the sorts of stuff I typically do. Though I tend to write my code in MonoDev / SharpDev instead of VS. For other reasons than you're stating, though since Ms started to really "spy" it's become an added reason for me. This tends to make me think it's not about the language, but rather the tools.

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        • A amagitech

          Sometimes i see some developers say that java kicks the c# or via versa. Yesterday a good know java developer which is jug chairman in turkey said that "I need to have install visual studio for a project, then i saw microsoft seized my computer.". Sometimes they share microsoft steal your codes. the source is that Visual Studio adding telemetry function calls to binary? : cpp[^] What do you think about that?

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          ScottM1
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          Dude, what?

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          • A amagitech

            Sometimes i see some developers say that java kicks the c# or via versa. Yesterday a good know java developer which is jug chairman in turkey said that "I need to have install visual studio for a project, then i saw microsoft seized my computer.". Sometimes they share microsoft steal your codes. the source is that Visual Studio adding telemetry function calls to binary? : cpp[^] What do you think about that?

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            AndrewDavie
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            I become a fan when there something that lets me do common tasks _much_ more easily and not have to wade through 5 different libraries for features that should have been included in the language.

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              CDP1802 wrote:

              I don't want to sell my soul to some company.

              Why not? You might make a couple of bucks. :-D

              There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              MadMyche
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              >>Why not? You might make a couple of bucks. I sold my soul; no bucks, just a bill for services rendered

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              • M MadMyche

                >>Why not? You might make a couple of bucks. I sold my soul; no bucks, just a bill for services rendered

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                Bruce Patin
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                You need to get your collection agent involved.

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                • M Mike Diack

                  Not sure about what you are talking of, but, for most of us, you become a fan of whatever technology (in my case C++) lets you be most productive.

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                  Matt McGuire
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                  Agreed. I would also think that's partly a comfort thing; like I don't know how to do "x" in language "y" but my trusty tool kit I've been building over the course of my career, has that "x" feature ready to go. Programming language wars are flat out stupid, it's like arguing over what is better; English or Spanish or something else. They (mostly) all have unique benefits, some are more universal but that does not invalidate others.

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                    Strange ... I use C# most of the time, not because I like it better, just because it's the most productive for the sorts of stuff I typically do. Though I tend to write my code in MonoDev / SharpDev instead of VS. For other reasons than you're stating, though since Ms started to really "spy" it's become an added reason for me. This tends to make me think it's not about the language, but rather the tools.

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                    This tends to make me think it's not about the language, but rather the tools. Like 15 years ago Dreamweaver was the choice of Professional web developers and Front Page marked you as a rank amateur. The truth was that using FP allowed people to do "Right Click Development" of code that they didn't know how to. Now today I am using Visual Studio and I see all of the questions here and mostly S/O on this or that problem when using Entity Framework or LinqToSql... And the push of the Code First approach having VS create a database strongly reminds me of that scorned "Right Click Development"

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                    • I irneb

                      Strange ... I use C# most of the time, not because I like it better, just because it's the most productive for the sorts of stuff I typically do. Though I tend to write my code in MonoDev / SharpDev instead of VS. For other reasons than you're stating, though since Ms started to really "spy" it's become an added reason for me. This tends to make me think it's not about the language, but rather the tools.

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                      MadMyche
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                      This tends to make me think it's not about the language, but rather the tools. Like 15 years ago Dreamweaver was the choice of Professional web developers and <1>Front Page marked you as a rank amateur. The truth was that using FP allowed people to do "Right Click Development" of code that they didn't know how to. Now today I am using Visual Studio and I see all of the questions here and mostly S/O on this or that problem when using Entity Framework or LinqToSql... And the push of the Code First approach having VS create a database strongly reminds me of that scorned "Right Click Development"

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