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  • Z ZurdoDev

    W∴ Balboos wrote:

    Bury him anyway.

    Wow! Why so much hate?

    There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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    Dave Kreskowiak
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    Probably because he's a womanizer who thinks women are only good for being sexualized objects on camera and a piece of ass. Oh, let's not forget that wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news".

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    • D Dave Kreskowiak

      Probably because he's a womanizer who thinks women are only good for being sexualized objects on camera and a piece of ass. Oh, let's not forget that wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news".

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      W Balboos GHB
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      Let's give credit where credit is due: He's the S O B that brought fake news mainstream.

      Ravings en masse^

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        Probably because he's a womanizer who thinks women are only good for being sexualized objects on camera and a piece of ass. Oh, let's not forget that wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news".

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        Don Burton
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        "Oh, let's not forget that wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news" How did CNN get into this thread?

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        • D Dave Kreskowiak

          Probably because he's a womanizer who thinks women are only good for being sexualized objects on camera and a piece of ass. Oh, let's not forget that wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news".

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          ZurdoDev
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          Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

          wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news".

          In that case, let's bury all of the media.

          There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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          • D Don Burton

            "Oh, let's not forget that wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news" How did CNN get into this thread?

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            ZurdoDev
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            Don Burton wrote:

            How did CNN get into this thread?

            And most other major news too.

            There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            • D Don Burton

              "Oh, let's not forget that wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news" How did CNN get into this thread?

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              Dave Kreskowiak
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              Oh, I'm not saying CNN is innocent. All the news outlets put their own spin on everything. Faux News sets the standard for "Fact checking? What's that?" by telling the truth about 3% to 22% of the time, depending on the study. MSNBC is nearly as bad. CNN actually gets shit right about 40 to 50% of the time. No, I don't get my information and news from any single source. I try to get the news from multiple sources and do my own research and fact checking.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news".

                In that case, let's bury all of the media.

                There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Dave Kreskowiak
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                I would prefer burning down every journalism class room and rebuilding from scratch with a heavy emphasis on research and ethics.

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                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                  Oh, I'm not saying CNN is innocent. All the news outlets put their own spin on everything. Faux News sets the standard for "Fact checking? What's that?" by telling the truth about 3% to 22% of the time, depending on the study. MSNBC is nearly as bad. CNN actually gets shit right about 40 to 50% of the time. No, I don't get my information and news from any single source. I try to get the news from multiple sources and do my own research and fact checking.

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                  Don Burton
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                  Interesting about the statistics on Fact Checking. Can you point me to that study. I'd be interested in reading that.

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                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                    I would prefer burning down every journalism class room and rebuilding from scratch with a heavy emphasis on research and ethics.

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    :thumbsup:

                    There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    • D Don Burton

                      Interesting about the statistics on Fact Checking. Can you point me to that study. I'd be interested in reading that.

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                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                      All my notes are at home and I'm at work right now. For a more "general" record you can look at the TV statements at PunditFact[^]. Just look under the TV menu for others. I like them because they include all of their sources in their evaluations. Makes it easy to see what they were looking at, read those sources yourself, and hunt down others they may have missed or left out. For a more topic specific look, Science or Spin?: Assessing the Accuracy of Cable News Coverage of Climate Science (2014) | Union of Concerned Scientists[^] is a nice look, complete with research data and methodology documentation.

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                      • W W Balboos GHB

                        Now, if only Fox News can jump on its founder's funeral pyre.

                        Ravings en masse^

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                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        Hell awaits with bated breath. ;) Marc

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                        • W W Balboos GHB

                          Now, if only Fox News can jump on its founder's funeral pyre.

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          BillWoodruff
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                          Please keep politics out of the Lounge.

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                          • W W Balboos GHB

                            Now, if only Fox News can jump on its founder's funeral pyre.

                            Ravings en masse^

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            Richard Andrew x64
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                            Yeah, heaven forbid there should be a different point of view presented to the public. The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.

                            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                              Quote:

                              4. No politics

                              Please keep politics out of the Lounge.

                              «When I consider my brief span of life, swallowed up in an eternity before and after, the little space I fill, and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant, and which know me not, I am frightened, and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, now rather than then.» Blaise Pascal

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                              No politics. Just the death of a manipulative, womanizing hate-mongerer that has scarred American politics and intelligence for the foreseeable future.

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                                Yeah, heaven forbid there should be a different point of view presented to the public. The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.

                                The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                W Balboos GHB
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                                The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it. But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda. Repeated over and over and over and over. Facts? Proof? Well - they're not presenting news so they're not held to that standard. They just present their sh^t as news.

                                Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                                The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.

                                And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed? I'll give you a hint: "He" offered to pay legal defense costs for those who beat up dissenters. So drop the crap you hear and regurgitate. Look at what really has happened and is happening. A very left wing idea? Then I pity the right.

                                Ravings en masse^

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                  I would prefer burning down every journalism class room and rebuilding from scratch with a heavy emphasis on research and ethics.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Yeah, back in the day it seemed that ~85% of news was fact based reporting (ie. this is what has happened) and the remainder was opinion based editorials (ie. this is what we / I think about what happened). Now days the percentages have flip flopped. X|

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                                  • W W Balboos GHB

                                    The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it. But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda. Repeated over and over and over and over. Facts? Proof? Well - they're not presenting news so they're not held to that standard. They just present their sh^t as news.

                                    Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                                    The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.

                                    And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed? I'll give you a hint: "He" offered to pay legal defense costs for those who beat up dissenters. So drop the crap you hear and regurgitate. Look at what really has happened and is happening. A very left wing idea? Then I pity the right.

                                    Ravings en masse^

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    The right has dominated the media for years.

                                    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: OMG! On what planet do you live??!! :omg: :omg: :omg: The rest of your post was... ummm... shall we say "interesting"? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                    • J Jon McKee

                                      No politics. Just the death of a manipulative, womanizing hate-mongerer that has scarred American politics and intelligence for the foreseeable future.

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                                      Bill Clinton died??? ;P

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                                      • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                        All my notes are at home and I'm at work right now. For a more "general" record you can look at the TV statements at PunditFact[^]. Just look under the TV menu for others. I like them because they include all of their sources in their evaluations. Makes it easy to see what they were looking at, read those sources yourself, and hunt down others they may have missed or left out. For a more topic specific look, Science or Spin?: Assessing the Accuracy of Cable News Coverage of Climate Science (2014) | Union of Concerned Scientists[^] is a nice look, complete with research data and methodology documentation.

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                                        James Curran
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                                        The PunditFact rating isn't really that good of an indicator, mainly because they don't fact check every statement made. Their limited resource force them to check only a handful of statements made by network. And those generally are the ones someone wrote in and requested they check -- with those being the one that sounded the most screwy. So, if one network said 100 crazy things and 25 of them turn out to be true, or they better or worse than another network which said only 4 crazy thing, but all were false? Further, that site is reporting on what the networks pundits say. If you are going to declare a network as "fake news" you have to go but what their news anchors say.

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it. But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda. Repeated over and over and over and over. Facts? Proof? Well - they're not presenting news so they're not held to that standard. They just present their sh^t as news.

                                          Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                                          The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.

                                          And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed? I'll give you a hint: "He" offered to pay legal defense costs for those who beat up dissenters. So drop the crap you hear and regurgitate. Look at what really has happened and is happening. A very left wing idea? Then I pity the right.

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                          The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it.

                                          That's just simple denial of reality.

                                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                          But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda.

                                          Any point of view that you don't agree with is propaganda. I see how this game is played now.

                                          W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                          And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed?

                                          I guess you missed the revelation that it was Hillary's campaign that PAID these "people" to riot at Trump rallies! The left always riots when they don't get their way. You NEVER see conservatives riot.

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