Roger Ailes dies at 77
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"Oh, let's not forget that wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news" How did CNN get into this thread?
Oh, I'm not saying CNN is innocent. All the news outlets put their own spin on everything. Faux News sets the standard for "Fact checking? What's that?" by telling the truth about 3% to 22% of the time, depending on the study. MSNBC is nearly as bad. CNN actually gets shit right about 40 to 50% of the time. No, I don't get my information and news from any single source. I try to get the news from multiple sources and do my own research and fact checking.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote:
wholesale misrepresentation and lying about everything is somehow called "reporting the news".
In that case, let's bury all of the media.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data. There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I would prefer burning down every journalism class room and rebuilding from scratch with a heavy emphasis on research and ethics.
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Oh, I'm not saying CNN is innocent. All the news outlets put their own spin on everything. Faux News sets the standard for "Fact checking? What's that?" by telling the truth about 3% to 22% of the time, depending on the study. MSNBC is nearly as bad. CNN actually gets shit right about 40 to 50% of the time. No, I don't get my information and news from any single source. I try to get the news from multiple sources and do my own research and fact checking.
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Dave KreskowiakInteresting about the statistics on Fact Checking. Can you point me to that study. I'd be interested in reading that.
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I would prefer burning down every journalism class room and rebuilding from scratch with a heavy emphasis on research and ethics.
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Interesting about the statistics on Fact Checking. Can you point me to that study. I'd be interested in reading that.
All my notes are at home and I'm at work right now. For a more "general" record you can look at the TV statements at PunditFact[^]. Just look under the TV menu for others. I like them because they include all of their sources in their evaluations. Makes it easy to see what they were looking at, read those sources yourself, and hunt down others they may have missed or left out. For a more topic specific look, Science or Spin?: Assessing the Accuracy of Cable News Coverage of Climate Science (2014) | Union of Concerned Scientists[^] is a nice look, complete with research data and methodology documentation.
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Now, if only Fox News can jump on its founder's funeral pyre.
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Hell awaits with bated breath. ;) Marc
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Now, if only Fox News can jump on its founder's funeral pyre.
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"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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4. No politics
Please keep politics out of the Lounge.
«When I consider my brief span of life, swallowed up in an eternity before and after, the little space I fill, and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant, and which know me not, I am frightened, and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, now rather than then.» Blaise Pascal
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Now, if only Fox News can jump on its founder's funeral pyre.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Yeah, heaven forbid there should be a different point of view presented to the public. The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.
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4. No politics
Please keep politics out of the Lounge.
«When I consider my brief span of life, swallowed up in an eternity before and after, the little space I fill, and even can see, engulfed in the infinite immensity of spaces of which I am ignorant, and which know me not, I am frightened, and am astonished at being here rather than there; for there is no reason why here rather than there, now rather than then.» Blaise Pascal
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Yeah, heaven forbid there should be a different point of view presented to the public. The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it. But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda. Repeated over and over and over and over. Facts? Proof? Well - they're not presenting news so they're not held to that standard. They just present their sh^t as news.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.
And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed? I'll give you a hint: "He" offered to pay legal defense costs for those who beat up dissenters. So drop the crap you hear and regurgitate. Look at what really has happened and is happening. A very left wing idea? Then I pity the right.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I would prefer burning down every journalism class room and rebuilding from scratch with a heavy emphasis on research and ethics.
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Dave KreskowiakYeah, back in the day it seemed that ~85% of news was fact based reporting (ie. this is what has happened) and the remainder was opinion based editorials (ie. this is what we / I think about what happened). Now days the percentages have flip flopped. X|
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it. But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda. Repeated over and over and over and over. Facts? Proof? Well - they're not presenting news so they're not held to that standard. They just present their sh^t as news.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.
And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed? I'll give you a hint: "He" offered to pay legal defense costs for those who beat up dissenters. So drop the crap you hear and regurgitate. Look at what really has happened and is happening. A very left wing idea? Then I pity the right.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
The right has dominated the media for years.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: OMG! On what planet do you live??!! :omg: :omg: :omg: The rest of your post was... ummm... shall we say "interesting"? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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No politics. Just the death of a manipulative, womanizing hate-mongerer that has scarred American politics and intelligence for the foreseeable future.
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All my notes are at home and I'm at work right now. For a more "general" record you can look at the TV statements at PunditFact[^]. Just look under the TV menu for others. I like them because they include all of their sources in their evaluations. Makes it easy to see what they were looking at, read those sources yourself, and hunt down others they may have missed or left out. For a more topic specific look, Science or Spin?: Assessing the Accuracy of Cable News Coverage of Climate Science (2014) | Union of Concerned Scientists[^] is a nice look, complete with research data and methodology documentation.
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Dave KreskowiakThe PunditFact rating isn't really that good of an indicator, mainly because they don't fact check every statement made. Their limited resource force them to check only a handful of statements made by network. And those generally are the ones someone wrote in and requested they check -- with those being the one that sounded the most screwy. So, if one network said 100 crazy things and 25 of them turn out to be true, or they better or worse than another network which said only 4 crazy thing, but all were false? Further, that site is reporting on what the networks pundits say. If you are going to declare a network as "fake news" you have to go but what their news anchors say.
Truth, James
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The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it. But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda. Repeated over and over and over and over. Facts? Proof? Well - they're not presenting news so they're not held to that standard. They just present their sh^t as news.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
The left only wants to silence opposition rather than debate it in the arena of ideas.
And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed? I'll give you a hint: "He" offered to pay legal defense costs for those who beat up dissenters. So drop the crap you hear and regurgitate. Look at what really has happened and is happening. A very left wing idea? Then I pity the right.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it.
That's just simple denial of reality.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda.
Any point of view that you don't agree with is propaganda. I see how this game is played now.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed?
I guess you missed the revelation that it was Hillary's campaign that PAID these "people" to riot at Trump rallies! The left always riots when they don't get their way. You NEVER see conservatives riot.
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
The right has dominated the media for years. They use it to whine about how the left is dominating it.
That's just simple denial of reality.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
But Faux News (note the title) presented little to no actual news, but rather, vitriolic propaganda.
Any point of view that you don't agree with is propaganda. I see how this game is played now.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
And as for that concept, who's campaign rallies beat, kicked, abused, and called for further injury to those who disagreed?
I guess you missed the revelation that it was Hillary's campaign that PAID these "people" to riot at Trump rallies! The left always riots when they don't get their way. You NEVER see conservatives riot.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
That's just simple denial of reality.
Why don't you connect to reality? Talk show radio is nearly 100% dominated by you right-wing fanatics. Faux News has the largest veiwship. Or do yo just continue to ignore those fact and choose your alternate facts?
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Any point of view that you don't agree with is propaganda. I see how this game is played now.
Instead of spouting crap - why not look it up! Which of Faux's (or better Fool's) News shows are actually news and not opinion? Or don't you care? There is a difference. Really!
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
I guess you missed the revelation that it was Hillary's campaign that PAID these "people" to riot at Trump rallies!
And it was Hillary's campaign that put the words in that orange monkey's mouth that he'd pay there legal fees? They make up whatever they want - and know you'll swallow it. Still do - he's lied almost continuously before and since the election and inauguration. Or do you just listen to his childish whining and believe him? And - tell me - what would you have said if it was Hillary Clinton who disclosed those highest level secrets to the Russians? Don't bother replying until you can answer this. Why your president cannot be trusted with the nations secrets. And look up what he said about those kind of people. Or, continue in your alternate bizarro universe.
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