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  • M Maximilien

    You really need to parse addresses ?If you start doing that, there will always be outliers that you will miss. :confused:

    I'd rather be phishing!

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    Marc Clifton
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    Maximilien wrote:

    You really need to parse addresses ?If you start doing that, there will always be outliers that you will miss.

    Sadly yes. And outliers are acceptable as we're trying to fill in some form fields that break out address, PO Box, and Rural Routes, and if everything fails, the address just gets put into the Address1 field. We're aiming for improvement rather than perfection. :) Marc

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    • T Tim Carmichael

      When we put our mail on vacation hold, it validates and 'normalizes' the address, so I do understand what you're working with. Where I grew up, our address was RR#1; it wasn't until I was in my teens that we had an address with a number and street name. So.. consider this.. are you only dealing with P.O. and its variants or do you have R.R. addresses as well?

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      englebart
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      I think the counties try to eliminate RR addresses when they implement 911 emergency service. Ambulance dispatcher: Code red, RR 23, box 99 ... Ambulance navigator: We are on the correct Route... 1 mailbox, 2 mailbox, etc...

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Examples (#'s have been removed):

        P O BOX
        P.O. BOX
        PMB
        PO B0X
        PO BO X
        PO BOK
        PO BOS
        BOX

        :sigh: The one with the 'K' is interesting. 'K' is on the opposite side of the keyboard -- I can understand the 'S'. The hardest part about parsing crap like this (there are 166,333 records) is determining what other variants I did not parse correctly (for example, considered as a street address, not a PO Box), not which ones I successfully accounted for. Marc

        Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        englebart
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        My guess on the "K" is that some robot filled it in based on a record created via OCR. The United States Post office has a service you can use to "normalize" addresses. I suspect that each country has something similar. There is probably a service provider that aggregates all of these normalization services into one spot. (Amazon?)

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Examples (#'s have been removed):

          P O BOX
          P.O. BOX
          PMB
          PO B0X
          PO BO X
          PO BOK
          PO BOS
          BOX

          :sigh: The one with the 'K' is interesting. 'K' is on the opposite side of the keyboard -- I can understand the 'S'. The hardest part about parsing crap like this (there are 166,333 records) is determining what other variants I did not parse correctly (for example, considered as a street address, not a PO Box), not which ones I successfully accounted for. Marc

          Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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          Dan Neely
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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          The one with the 'K' is interesting. 'K' is on the opposite side of the keyboard -- I can understand the 'S'.

          Optically Corrupted Recognition?

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          • M Marc Clifton

            RR, CR, HC, etc., as well as regular street addresses (as best as those are). Perfect accuracy is not necessary, just best guess. :) Marc

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            agolddog
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            Well, then just parse the city & state/province and geocode to the center of that.

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            • G Gary Wheeler

              I smell OCR in the mix - hence the BOK, BOS, B0X, etc.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              vtokar
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              :thumbsup:

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              • T Tim Carmichael

                When we put our mail on vacation hold, it validates and 'normalizes' the address, so I do understand what you're working with. Where I grew up, our address was RR#1; it wasn't until I was in my teens that we had an address with a number and street name. So.. consider this.. are you only dealing with P.O. and its variants or do you have R.R. addresses as well?

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                kristopher baker
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                Excellent point. Are there services that allow you to force user input validation of addresses against the USPS databases?

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Examples (#'s have been removed):

                  P O BOX
                  P.O. BOX
                  PMB
                  PO B0X
                  PO BO X
                  PO BOK
                  PO BOS
                  BOX

                  :sigh: The one with the 'K' is interesting. 'K' is on the opposite side of the keyboard -- I can understand the 'S'. The hardest part about parsing crap like this (there are 166,333 records) is determining what other variants I did not parse correctly (for example, considered as a street address, not a PO Box), not which ones I successfully accounted for. Marc

                  Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                  MikeTheFid
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                  Your could fashion the UI to eliminate the need to parse P.O. Box... etc. Have a drop down that contains these options: Street #, P.O. Box, RR#, CR, HC, etc And to the right of it, place a text box that accepts the actual number. Just a thought off the top.

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    welcome to my life

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                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                    Woah... haven't seen you in a long time Chris. How's it going these days?

                    Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                      Woah... haven't seen you in a long time Chris. How's it going these days?

                      Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                      Chris Losinger
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                      i'm here occasionally. not constantly, as previously. it goes... on and on and on and on. :)

                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                      • F fmsalmeida

                        Nelek wrote:

                        Software development is a constant war with the universe... Developers trying to do better idiot-proof software and the universe trying to do even dumber users...

                        You made my day with this phrase!

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                        Nelek
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                        You are welcome :) :-D

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Examples (#'s have been removed):

                          P O BOX
                          P.O. BOX
                          PMB
                          PO B0X
                          PO BO X
                          PO BOK
                          PO BOS
                          BOX

                          :sigh: The one with the 'K' is interesting. 'K' is on the opposite side of the keyboard -- I can understand the 'S'. The hardest part about parsing crap like this (there are 166,333 records) is determining what other variants I did not parse correctly (for example, considered as a street address, not a PO Box), not which ones I successfully accounted for. Marc

                          Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                          Lost User
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                          Just say: "We don't deliver to postal boxes; addresses only". (For real-time, I use online address validation services).

                          "(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then". ― Blaise Pascal

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                          • C Chris Losinger

                            i'm here occasionally. not constantly, as previously. it goes... on and on and on and on. :)

                            image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                            Vikram A Punathambekar
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                            I still remember your old profile pic - with hand on your thoughtful face. Got it somewhere? :)

                            Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                              I still remember your old profile pic - with hand on your thoughtful face. Got it somewhere? :)

                              Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                              Rage
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                              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                              Got it somewhere

                              He probably has his face at the same bbody place you have yours. :rolleyes:

                              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                Examples (#'s have been removed):

                                P O BOX
                                P.O. BOX
                                PMB
                                PO B0X
                                PO BO X
                                PO BOK
                                PO BOS
                                BOX

                                :sigh: The one with the 'K' is interesting. 'K' is on the opposite side of the keyboard -- I can understand the 'S'. The hardest part about parsing crap like this (there are 166,333 records) is determining what other variants I did not parse correctly (for example, considered as a street address, not a PO Box), not which ones I successfully accounted for. Marc

                                Latest Article - Create a Dockerized Python Fiddle Web App Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                Peter Adam
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                                Maybe who entered used Hungarian autocorrect in, let's say, Word. box autocorrects to boksz, [s]he tried to correct that to something sounding right, but deleted the wrong letter. Or gave up fighting autocorrect :)

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                                • R Rage

                                  Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                  Got it somewhere

                                  He probably has his face at the same bbody place you have yours. :rolleyes:

                                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                  #37

                                  Smarty pants ;P

                                  Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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