RIAA hack Kazaa
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The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.
Kazaa is good because it forces the recording industry to deal with the issue of the Internet. If they don't want their content stolen, they need to make a legal way for people to download it. Some of the pay services available now (most notably Rhapsody) are coming close to providing a bonafide improvement to what's available through p2p services like Kazaa, not to mention being legal. This would NEVER have happened without p2p services like Napster and Kazaa.
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BTW, it's not that I actually approve of stealing copyrighted material, it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
Brad Jennings wrote: it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Exactly, I've downloaded....say three MP3's this week. I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? They still make their money.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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Brad Jennings wrote: it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Exactly, I've downloaded....say three MP3's this week. I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? They still make their money.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
Jonny Newman wrote: I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? I guess they lose out when somebody downloads mp3s and finds out that an album is crap. Of course, if they didn't put crap CDs on the market that wouldn't be a problem. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Jonny Newman wrote: I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? I guess they lose out when somebody downloads mp3s and finds out that an album is crap. Of course, if they didn't put crap CDs on the market that wouldn't be a problem. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
Brad Jennings wrote: if they didn't put crap CDs on the market that wouldn't be a problem. I can name a few :-) Because i'm using dial up, I tend to think about the mp3s I download. So its normally if I hear it on MTV and sorta like it, i'll download it and then if I really like it, i'll buy it. But like I say, if I don't like it, i rarely download it.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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Brad Jennings wrote: it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Exactly, I've downloaded....say three MP3's this week. I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? They still make their money.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
Because the majority of people aren't as honest as you. Study after study may support what you say, but let's be honest here: why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
Jon Sagara
They gave me penicillin because I have sniffilis. -- A friend's response when asked about his trip to the doctor -
Because the majority of people aren't as honest as you. Study after study may support what you say, but let's be honest here: why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
Jon Sagara
They gave me penicillin because I have sniffilis. -- A friend's response when asked about his trip to the doctorJon Sagara wrote: why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Depends if sheep are out of season.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.
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Someone will just make a better fileshare app. It happened when Napster shut down. So if the RIAA do something to the kazaa network, another kid will make another app.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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Because the majority of people aren't as honest as you. Study after study may support what you say, but let's be honest here: why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
Jon Sagara
They gave me penicillin because I have sniffilis. -- A friend's response when asked about his trip to the doctorYears back there were similar arguments about casette tapes. Now who in their right mind would buy expensive bottled water when it is free from a tap?
If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676
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Years back there were similar arguments about casette tapes. Now who in their right mind would buy expensive bottled water when it is free from a tap?
If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676
Ted Ferenc wrote: Now who in their right mind would buy expensive bottled water when it is free from a tap? :-D I'm going to sue you for water piracy. ;P
Jon Sagara
They gave me penicillin because I have sniffilis. -- A friend's response when asked about his trip to the doctor -
BTW, it's not that I actually approve of stealing copyrighted material, it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
The reason why people feel the need to steal is because all these are heavily overpriced. You can't buy all the music that comes out. Obviously, there are people who are so heavily into music that they want to hear anything that comes out. Music industry will have to make it really cheap. Otherwise, despite all the "artificial" barriers, people will still find ways to get pirated stuff. Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.
If anyone hacked into a legally operated computer, then they will have FBI charge them as a terrorist. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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The reason why people feel the need to steal is because all these are heavily overpriced. You can't buy all the music that comes out. Obviously, there are people who are so heavily into music that they want to hear anything that comes out. Music industry will have to make it really cheap. Otherwise, despite all the "artificial" barriers, people will still find ways to get pirated stuff. Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? Good point, two wrongs don't make a right. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Years back there were similar arguments about casette tapes. Now who in their right mind would buy expensive bottled water when it is free from a tap?
If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676
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Thomas George wrote: Btw, is hacking an ilegal operation legal? Good point, two wrongs don't make a right. Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Brad Jennings wrote: it's that I've often downloaded mp3s to "preview" what I was thinking about buying. Exactly, I've downloaded....say three MP3's this week. I've consequently bought an album....how are they losing out? They still make their money.
"If you just say porn then you get all manner of chaff and low grade stuff."
- Paul Watson, Lounge 25 Mar 03
"If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?"
- Anon
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^]
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Brad Jennings wrote: two wrongs don't make a right. but three lefts do! :rolleyes: - Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
:-D Brad Jennings "You're mom is nice. Mind if I go out with her?" - Jörgen Sigvardsson
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we have to pay for tap water here in the US - Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
Nitron wrote: we have to pay for tap water here in the US Depends on where you live, if you live in the city then you probably have to pay for the water you use; but for those in the country you have well water which is free for the most part. You have to pay for the well to be drilled and the pump plus the electricity for the pump. The downside is that if you lose electricity you lose your water too. Then again the cost to fill the $1 bottle of water from your tap is mere pennies (if even that) :) James "It is self repeating, of unknown pattern" Data - Star Trek: The Next Generation
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Nitron wrote: we have to pay for tap water here in the US Depends on where you live, if you live in the city then you probably have to pay for the water you use; but for those in the country you have well water which is free for the most part. You have to pay for the well to be drilled and the pump plus the electricity for the pump. The downside is that if you lose electricity you lose your water too. Then again the cost to fill the $1 bottle of water from your tap is mere pennies (if even that) :) James "It is self repeating, of unknown pattern" Data - Star Trek: The Next Generation
James T. Johnson wrote: the cost to fill the $1 bottle of water from your tap is mere pennies (if even that) Yep. Here, the price of water is slightly less than 1 cent per gallon - and this is water-hungry S Calif.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." - Jesus
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The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WARNING," the message reads. "When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC." At the same time, the industry is collecting the user names of people suspected of illegally offering copyright material with the file-sharing services Kazaa and Grokster, but it doesn't intend to pursue legal action, said Recording Industry Association of America President Cary Sherman. Recording industry targets users of Kazaa, Grokster with warning messages[^] Don't :beer: and drive.
Kant wrote: The recording industry has tapped into two Internet file-swapping services and is flashing messages to music traders warning them they're breaking the law. And they aren't breaking the law doing this?:mad: No, I've never used Napster/Kaazaa/Gnutella/whatever. But I believe in freedom. Vikram. "There's probably a Nish-like alien answering VB questions on a CP forum as we speak." - adamUK in The Lounge, discussing aliens and parallel universes. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.