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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    :laugh: Clearly, we've both seen the same kinda databases before.

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    CodeWraith
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    Not only databases. It gets really sick when something like this appears in the code:

    (somecontrol.text = float.Parse(x) * float.Parse(y)).ToString();

    x and y are strings, of course. Th use of float.parse() can fail any time when the strings can't be parsed, no checks or a try/catch block. The text property of the control of course also serves as stringly typed storage for the calclated value. And that's only the beginning of the horrors in that ASP.Net web form.

    I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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      Not only databases. It gets really sick when something like this appears in the code:

      (somecontrol.text = float.Parse(x) * float.Parse(y)).ToString();

      x and y are strings, of course. Th use of float.parse() can fail any time when the strings can't be parsed, no checks or a try/catch block. The text property of the control of course also serves as stringly typed storage for the calclated value. And that's only the beginning of the horrors in that ASP.Net web form.

      I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      About the only logical explanation I can come up with is if they're using like a web service that only has strings for data. Outside of that... :wtf:

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        About the only logical explanation I can come up with is if they're using like a web service that only has strings for data. Outside of that... :wtf:

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        Some people never really get what types are all about. This particular guy would have been insulted after such unwarranted criticism. He was one of those who could recite every rule and convention there may be and believes that everything is well as long as these rules are observed. Who needs to think when some guru already has done that and packaged his wisdom in rules and conventions?

        I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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          Some people never really get what types are all about. This particular guy would have been insulted after such unwarranted criticism. He was one of those who could recite every rule and convention there may be and believes that everything is well as long as these rules are observed. Who needs to think when some guru already has done that and packaged his wisdom in rules and conventions?

          I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          Common sense ain't so common man.

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            Common sense ain't so common man.

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            CodeWraith
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            I have seen that before. In some companies it's the standard procedure to reduce the code monkeys to better typists and keep them in line with rules and conventions. What do you think happens when you try to give one of those poor guys room to think for themselves?

            I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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              I have seen that before. In some companies it's the standard procedure to reduce the code monkeys to better typists and keep them in line with rules and conventions. What do you think happens when you try to give one of those poor guys room to think for themselves?

              I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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              Mycroft Holmes
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              CodeWraith wrote:

              What do you think happens when you try to give one of those poor guys room to think for themselves

              I have just heard the exact opposite - outsourced project to Hyderabad and the PM is bitching that the "developers" can't think for themselves and need to be spoon fed every decision. She now knows the difference between a developer and a code monkey.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                CodeWraith wrote:

                What do you think happens when you try to give one of those poor guys room to think for themselves

                I have just heard the exact opposite - outsourced project to Hyderabad and the PM is bitching that the "developers" can't think for themselves and need to be spoon fed every decision. She now knows the difference between a developer and a code monkey.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                She now knows the difference between a developer and a code monkey.

                Yup. In my view a code monkey knows one thing and one thing only... code. <robot_voice>Must... compute... X... Y... Z</robot_voice> And has very little understanding about people, teams, being a good leader or a good follower, how to play poker, anything at all really besides just code.

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                • J Jacquers

                  Heard a nice one today: Explicitly Configured (hard-coded) :)

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                  Roger Wright
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                  What character flaw drives some people to create new terms to describe things which are already perfectly well described by existing - and usually simpler - terms? Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Not only databases. It gets really sick when something like this appears in the code:

                    (somecontrol.text = float.Parse(x) * float.Parse(y)).ToString();

                    x and y are strings, of course. Th use of float.parse() can fail any time when the strings can't be parsed, no checks or a try/catch block. The text property of the control of course also serves as stringly typed storage for the calclated value. And that's only the beginning of the horrors in that ASP.Net web form.

                    I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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                    Nathan Minier
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                    I think I've worked with that guy. Or maybe there's just a bunch of them :sigh:

                    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      What character flaw drives some people to create new terms to describe things which are already perfectly well described by existing - and usually simpler - terms? Will Rogers never met me.

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                      Misguided creativity and/or a need to be right and/or a need to sugar coat the truth?

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                      • J Jacquers

                        Heard a nice one today: Explicitly Configured (hard-coded) :)

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                        • N Nathan Minier

                          I think I've worked with that guy. Or maybe there's just a bunch of them :sigh:

                          "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli

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                          CodeWraith
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                          There sure are more of them than we think. The poor guys have been used as code monkeys and stuffed full with rules and conventions. Then, when they finally invented something on their own, they are proud of their unique solution and don't waste any time on thinking about why nobody else does it quite this way. At least not until some wise guy comes along and declares the grand idea to be a code horror. Then they fall back to their old line of defense, which would be patterns, rules and conventions. If you don't break any rules, your solution can't possibly be bad.

                          I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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                          • J Jeremy Falcon

                            Common sense ain't so common man.

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                            :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                              Almost as good as 'stringly typed' (when string is used as universal datatype for everything).

                              I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this. Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is

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                              TNCaver
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                              varchar(50), to be precise.

                              If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                CodeWraith wrote:

                                What do you think happens when you try to give one of those poor guys room to think for themselves

                                I have just heard the exact opposite - outsourced project to Hyderabad and the PM is bitching that the "developers" can't think for themselves and need to be spoon fed every decision. She now knows the difference between a developer and a code monkey.

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                Is_VYFHD_in_use
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                                "To a boy with a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail".

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                                • J Jacquers

                                  Heard a nice one today: Explicitly Configured (hard-coded) :)

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                                  Timeline adjustment

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                                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                                    :laugh: Clearly, we've both seen the same kinda databases before.

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                                    irneb
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                                    You mean those with the Json/XML/whatnot backing? As if they're "proud" to convert back-n-forth with this "stringly typed".

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                                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                                      Common sense ain't so common man.

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                                      irneb
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                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      Common sense ain't so common man.

                                      Heard it a different way: Common sense ... the curse in disguise: Because if you have it, you're doomed to live with those that don't!

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                                        I would say that the programmer who did that needs some percussive maintenance (AKA a slap upside the head). :)

                                        If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                                        irneb
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                                        Over here it's called a "Stupid Stick".

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                                        • I irneb

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          Common sense ain't so common man.

                                          Heard it a different way: Common sense ... the curse in disguise: Because if you have it, you're doomed to live with those that don't!

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                                          James Lonero
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                                          Reminds me of my MBA studies. Yes, business school is the study of common sense (in a capitalist society).

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