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Ergonomic Keyboards anyone?

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

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    Dave Kreskowiak
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    Awesome! I want one. 12lbs of solid brass comes in handy for those times where you need a blunt weapon to beat pesky whiners in the face with. The comments section on that keyboard is hilarious!

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      Joan M
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      Years ago when I worked in my first own company and the safety guy came to tell the workers the important things to know... he asked me to go to the meeting with all the mechanical guys, the electricians... and I remember exactly what I told him: What do you think can happen to me? the keyboard could fall onto my feet? even that it wouldn't be an important injury. It's clear I was not correctly informed. :wtf:

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      • T theoldfool

        Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

        Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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        Ian Bell 2
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        I had Carpal tunnel problems and was able to correct it by using the Logitech Wave and the Microsoft Natural keyboards. I found the Microsoft Natural keyboard is more reliable/problem free than the Logitech Wave keyboard. I cannot say if these keyboards will provide relief for arthritis. Given their relatively low price, it might be worthwhile buying one just to try - my recommendation would be the Microsoft Natural keyboard. Good luck, Ian

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        • T theoldfool

          Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

          Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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          dandy72
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          I don't have any particular recommendation beyond "as long as it's curved, it'll be an improvement". I've had ergonomic keyboards since Microsoft first came out with theirs in 1995. I had my doubts about carpal tunnel claims before then, but I can attest first-hand (see what did there?) that it makes a huge difference if you do any serious typing. Now, if only I could find a decent chair...

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            I had Carpal tunnel problems and was able to correct it by using the Logitech Wave and the Microsoft Natural keyboards. I found the Microsoft Natural keyboard is more reliable/problem free than the Logitech Wave keyboard. I cannot say if these keyboards will provide relief for arthritis. Given their relatively low price, it might be worthwhile buying one just to try - my recommendation would be the Microsoft Natural keyboard. Good luck, Ian

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            Foothill
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            I had a Wave too, wireless. I don't know why but it would buffer about 15 to 30 keystrokes then spit them all out at once from time to time. It was real irritating. I have since switch over to a good-ole wired natural ergonomic from microsoft.

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            • T theoldfool

              Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

              Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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              theoldfool
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              Thanks to all. If the past is any indicator, I will now procrastinate for a few days and then buy the wrong thing. :( Thanks again.

              Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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              • T theoldfool

                Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                Sasa Cetkovic
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                I bought Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Desktop a few months ago, I'm very pleased with the shape and feel. Awesome material quality too.

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                • T theoldfool

                  Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                  Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                  MikeD 2
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                  Unfortunately no longer made but I have had the same Microsoft Natural Pro for at least the last 16 or 17 years and yes it is dirty, (somewhere in between the first two pictures in the link) but it has been really reliable although I did have to take the space key mechanism apart when it started jamming as I continually use the left hand side (clean patch) but a few minutes work soon saw that working well again Apart from the fact that I am a slob :( you can even deduce languages that aren't used by looking at how dirty the []{} keys are Microsoft Blog[^] Before I started using this keyboard my wrists used to ache and putting my hand in my trouser pockets was particularly uncomfortable (helped stop me getting the wallet out though :-D )

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Nah, you want one of these: Datamancer Seafarer[^] Ok, you won't be able to type on it, but at 12lb of solid brass you won't lose it either!

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                    milo xml
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                    Thank you for sending me down the rabbit hole on that one. The reviews on that are fantastic and I discovered that you can buy uranium ore on Amazon! I have a can ordered and expect to have my super powers by the end of the month.

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                      Thank you for sending me down the rabbit hole on that one. The reviews on that are fantastic and I discovered that you can buy uranium ore on Amazon! I have a can ordered and expect to have my super powers by the end of the month.

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      You're going to need the right spider as well - I suggest your local Zoo may be able to help with that one.

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                        I don't have any particular recommendation beyond "as long as it's curved, it'll be an improvement". I've had ergonomic keyboards since Microsoft first came out with theirs in 1995. I had my doubts about carpal tunnel claims before then, but I can attest first-hand (see what did there?) that it makes a huge difference if you do any serious typing. Now, if only I could find a decent chair...

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                        Someone mention chair?[^]

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          You're going to need the right spider as well - I suggest your local Zoo may be able to help with that one.

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                          milo xml
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                          Good thinking. I was just going to use one out of my basement, but I think those are mutated already. Mixing a mutation from a mutation might not give me the desired results.

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                          • T theoldfool

                            Having problems with arthritis in my hands. Anyone using any of the ergo keyboards with success? Any experiences recommendations? I see stuff up to $300+ dollars. Wow!

                            Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click "I agree". Anonymous

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                            Leng Vang
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                            I have a PS/2 Microsoft Natural Keyboard from 1995 that I use everyday for the last 22 years. I took it with me every where I go, had changed jobs half dozen times since then. It collects so much bread-crumbs but it's the best keyboard. I'm very clumsy programming using laptop keyboard or those straight up one. My only fear is that soon PC would stop supporting PS/2. :) I have had all kinds other natural ergo keyboards, one that comes apart into two, vertical one, even other same version Microsoft Natural Keyboard(pro, 4000, 6000), none of them I compare to this old one. It has to have the right key weight -- not too hard.

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                            • R raddevus

                              I own 2 of these (1 work and 1 at home) and have been buying them since they were made available (back in 95 I think): Microsoft Natural ergonomic -- amazon[^] They allow your wrists to rest in their natural state but you have to be a touch typist to use them. Natural state of wrist rest is: * curved fingers * arms turned slightly in (palms slightly facing each other) * wrists aligned (not bent) with the rest of the arm (wrists not bent and pinching internally) * arms supported on desktop --- not forcing shoulders to hold arm weight You can see these keyboards at local office supply stores. ** Also, once you use this keyboard for a few days and try a regular one again, you will notice that your wrists were actually twisted outwards for typing.

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                              vaderjm
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                              I also use this keyboard and my wrists have hurt a lot less since starting with it. For what it's worth, I also use a mouse that lets my wrist rest on it's side. Takes a bit getting used to, but helps tremendously with the pain.

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                                I also use this keyboard and my wrists have hurt a lot less since starting with it. For what it's worth, I also use a mouse that lets my wrist rest on it's side. Takes a bit getting used to, but helps tremendously with the pain.

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                                vaderjm wrote:

                                a mouse that lets my wrist rest on it's side

                                I have two "cursor/pointer" devices. One for each hand. A mouse for my right hand and a trackball for my left hand so I can vary usage throughout the day. I really like the trackball best though.

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                                  vaderjm wrote:

                                  a mouse that lets my wrist rest on it's side

                                  I have two "cursor/pointer" devices. One for each hand. A mouse for my right hand and a trackball for my left hand so I can vary usage throughout the day. I really like the trackball best though.

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                                  vaderjm
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                                  Why have I never tried a track ball?

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                                    Why have I never tried a track ball?

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                                    Because you don't think they are better. I've used them for ages - maybe thirty years - and wouldn't go back to a mouse. They never fall off the edge of the mousepad, you can click them without the mouse moving, and they really feel natural once you are used to them. That takes a while - you can get some pain for a couple of days because you aren't used to moving your thumb so much. I've lost count of how many I've got though, and my current one is about ten or fifteen years old. Logitech Trackman Wheel: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[^] - sadly, you can't get them any more ... it's wireless now: M570 Wireless Trackball - Logitech[^]

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      Because you don't think they are better. I've used them for ages - maybe thirty years - and wouldn't go back to a mouse. They never fall off the edge of the mousepad, you can click them without the mouse moving, and they really feel natural once you are used to them. That takes a while - you can get some pain for a couple of days because you aren't used to moving your thumb so much. I've lost count of how many I've got though, and my current one is about ten or fifteen years old. Logitech Trackman Wheel: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[^] - sadly, you can't get them any more ... it's wireless now: M570 Wireless Trackball - Logitech[^]

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                                      vaderjm
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                                      I think I'm ordering one today. This is pure genius. I remember a roommate had one in college 20 years ago and I wasn't sure I could get used to it so I never tried. Really never paid more attention to it till today. But with my hands the way they are, I should have :( Do they make them so I can use my middle and ring finger to move the ball? Clicking seems more natural with my thumb/index finger and rolling with the others. I seem to remember my roommates' being that way.

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                                        I think I'm ordering one today. This is pure genius. I remember a roommate had one in college 20 years ago and I wasn't sure I could get used to it so I never tried. Really never paid more attention to it till today. But with my hands the way they are, I should have :( Do they make them so I can use my middle and ring finger to move the ball? Clicking seems more natural with my thumb/index finger and rolling with the others. I seem to remember my roommates' being that way.

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                                        OriginalGriff
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                                        Logitech do a "marble" version: Logitech UK - TrackBall TrackMan Marble - ambidextrous design[^] with a central ball - I never got on with them, but you may.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Logitech do a "marble" version: Logitech UK - TrackBall TrackMan Marble - ambidextrous design[^] with a central ball - I never got on with them, but you may.

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                                          vaderjm
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                                          Sweet. I will most likely be trying them both. Thanks!

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